These rumours that emerge from time to time that "the Aussies have withdrawn", and that "theres a rival British consortium" - where do they originate?
We know that the Aussies have spent more than a year and a sizeable chunk of money in pursuing their purchase of the club. We also know that they are ready to drip feed positive and reassuring "news" about the takeover on here and to local media - so it's pretty easy to discount the possibility that they are briefing against themselves.
Duchatelet gives not a single toss about us fans. Never has. He isn't given to communicating with or to us unless we provoke him into one of his infamous rants. And what does he stand to gain from leaking false negative "news" about the takeover failing, anyway? We know he is desperate to sell and the sooner the better, as its costing him big time to stick around. I don't buy the theory that he is trying to flush out a rival bidder. The Aussies are his best option, or they wouldn't currently be in pole position. It might be taking longer than anyone wanted, but starting again with a new bidder would mean re-setting the clock entirely.
So, who would like the Aussie deal to fall through. Would like to foster concern between the seller and prospective buyer? Would like to ensure a place at the Board table, which looks extremely unlikely within an Aussie administration? Has talked about a second bidder, that no-one else seems to know about and that doesn't seem capable of mounting a serious challenge to the Aussies?
Join the dots. Looks like a last, desperate roll of the dice to keep in the game.
Who has the most unanswered questions left over their tenure? Who has refused to disclose the reasoning behind the departure of Varney and Kavanagh? Who sold us shareholders down the River? Who sold us to the spivs? Who has lied directly to us since day one of Duchatalet? Who has mysteriously clung onto power throughout this debacle of a regime?
Why has he continued to be Duchatalet's sychopant in chief? What did he do to stop the unlicensed bully boys? Why didn't he put a stop to the charade with the Police over what was nothing more than an 'message board thing' as he likes to call it?
From hero to zero. I'm convinced the biggest skeleton is still waiting to come out of the closet and it will be nothing but bad news for Charlton Athletic.
You two obviously don’t read mysteries. RM is far too obvious.
Methinks you have so soon forgotten. A women scorned and lied too. Betrayed by a family friend she trusted.
Her fairytale job she was promised for life? Sold behind her back!
Gone now, but has not forgiven. She smiles sweetly, but revenge will be hers. Only a very old fool would not trust her now.
Still think that is too obvious, the culprit is often someone who hasn't really been part of the plot and seems on first impressions a rather benign character. My moneys on the cardigan wearing museum curator. I believe he was once on the board.
@Airman Brown as above, can you please clarify your post mate.
I think he means it was a rumour not caused by chit chat but someone putting it out there. He said the other both buyer and seller denied this so hinting someone else
That’s correct. This wasn’t the product of an idle discussion between fans - it was more detailed (when, how) and going around at a more significant level. By my count there have been at least three attempts to put out a story that the Aussies had pulled out in recent weeks, none of which have had any substance. One resulted in the joint statement; the latest, reliable denials from both sides. It does look as if it is being planted.
@Airman Brown as above, can you please clarify your post mate.
I think he means it was a rumour not caused by chit chat but someone putting it out there. He said the other both buyer and seller denied this so hinting someone else
That’s correct. This wasn’t the product of an idle discussion between fans - it was more detailed (when, how) and going around at a more significant level. By my count there have been at least three attempts to put out a story that the Aussies had pulled out in recent weeks, none of which have had any substance. One resulted in the joint statement; the latest, reliable denials from both sides. It does look as if it is being planted.
If both sides are regularly denying it, it suggests it is not being put out by either camp. Who do you think is planting the stories @Airman Brown ?
And also then what the bloody point is. If both sides are saying it's untrue, then whoever is saying it has nothing to go on! Therefore, pointless!
@Airman Brown as above, can you please clarify your post mate.
I think he means it was a rumour not caused by chit chat but someone putting it out there. He said the other both buyer and seller denied this so hinting someone else
That’s correct. This wasn’t the product of an idle discussion between fans - it was more detailed (when, how) and going around at a more significant level. By my count there have been at least three attempts to put out a story that the Aussies had pulled out in recent weeks, none of which have had any substance. One resulted in the joint statement; the latest, reliable denials from both sides. It does look as if it is being planted.
If both sides are regularly denying it, it suggests it is not being put out by either camp. Who do you think is planting the stories @Airman Brown ?
And also then what the bloody point is. If both sides are saying it's untrue, then whoever is saying it has nothing to go on! Therefore, pointless!
What about somebody who is (or would like to be) involved in the seemingly mythical alternative "english" consortium....?
@Airman Brown as above, can you please clarify your post mate.
I think he means it was a rumour not caused by chit chat but someone putting it out there. He said the other both buyer and seller denied this so hinting someone else
That’s correct. This wasn’t the product of an idle discussion between fans - it was more detailed (when, how) and going around at a more significant level. By my count there have been at least three attempts to put out a story that the Aussies had pulled out in recent weeks, none of which have had any substance. One resulted in the joint statement; the latest, reliable denials from both sides. It does look as if it is being planted.
If both sides are regularly denying it, it suggests it is not being put out by either camp. Who do you think is planting the stories @Airman Brown ?
And also then what the bloody point is. If both sides are saying it's untrue, then whoever is saying it has nothing to go on! Therefore, pointless!
What about somebody who is (or would like to be) involved in the seemingly mythical alternative "english" consortium....?
Possibly, but then if it's not true, and so easily denied by both sides (twice) then it's always going to be. I think we've learned enough these last few months that just saying it doesn't make it happen!
@Airman Brown as above, can you please clarify your post mate.
I think he means it was a rumour not caused by chit chat but someone putting it out there. He said the other both buyer and seller denied this so hinting someone else
That’s correct. This wasn’t the product of an idle discussion between fans - it was more detailed (when, how) and going around at a more significant level. By my count there have been at least three attempts to put out a story that the Aussies had pulled out in recent weeks, none of which have had any substance. One resulted in the joint statement; the latest, reliable denials from both sides. It does look as if it is being planted.
If both sides are regularly denying it, it suggests it is not being put out by either camp. Who do you think is planting the stories @Airman Brown ?
And also then what the bloody point is. If both sides are saying it's untrue, then whoever is saying it has nothing to go on! Therefore, pointless!
What about somebody who is (or would like to be) involved in the seemingly mythical alternative "english" consortium....?
Also need to consider whose benefit the rumour is for. Like, what reaction is the person starting the rumour looking for and who from? #conspiracyTheory
Whoever is the culprit, they are doing it for personal gain. He is obviously totally oblivious of, and completely disregarding and disrespecting Charlton supporters.
Whoever is the culprit, they are doing it for personal gain. He is obviously totally oblivious of, and completely disregarding and disrespecting Charlton supporters.
I think Bowyer is being really naive if he thinks a smaller squad than last year will fair better. I like him, but I think he is kidding himself.
He thinks he's kidding us, however I reckon we won't be kidding anyone with this squad in a couple of months time.
No disrespect to Bowyer, but he ultimately wants to have a job, that given his experience, he would most likely not have the opportunity to do elsewhere.
With that in mind of course he is not going to say anything that will rub the current owner up the wrong way.
Whoever is the culprit, they are doing it for personal gain. He is obviously totally oblivious of, and completely disregarding and disrespecting Charlton supporters.
Murray in a nut shell, odious old man who has worked against the fans for years now.
Well whoever it is they obviously have the ability to plant the rumour where it reaches both Buyer and seller who take it seriously enough to leak denials. The field of runners and riders cant be that big.
Damn! I have been out of action reading-wise after a cataract op on Wednesday. I have just come back on here to catch up and see if there has been some progress and Henry is still saying WIOTOS.
Well whoever it is they obviously have the ability to plant the rumour where it reaches both Buyer and seller who take it seriously enough to leak denials. The field of runners and riders cant be that big.
It wasn't me ShootersHillGuru......................honest
Please note, that the below is all supposition and is only my depraved understanding on what I believe the issues are.
Without a doubt, proper DD has picked whatever issue it is up and the Aussies want it resolved before signing off the deal. Fairly confident it is a matter outside of the EFL fit and proper test.
I also get the feeling that this, as an issue, was picked up some six months or so ago and is one of the reasons why KM - as the Clubs CEO (and therefore responsible person at the time) did a runner so quickly. I also believe Duchatalet had no idea about this issue as it has been kept in the shadows until it was identified by the Aussies (and possibly others) during DD.
If the issue needs to come out into the open to be finally resolved, (and I have my own thoughts on what it may be), then the proverbial is going to hit the fan, which will result in financial and possibly also playing side penalties. The Aussies, quite rightly, don't want this hanging over them.
Unusually for me I seem to be supporting Duchatalet's and Meire's innocence in all this as I truly believe because of his poor DD the issue wasn't picked up. That does not however make either of them non complicit in not dealing with the problem, rather to be just seen to move it onto the next owner for them to resolve.
So my theory, is that this has been well hidden in the shadows for some time - see my previous reference to Varney and Kavanagh - and only this sale of the Club is going to force it out into the open.
Obviously, there are person/s who do not want this to happen at any price - I suspect because they are culpable. They are therefore doing all they can to prevent this sale going through and continue to let sleeping dogs lie.
Whatever the outcome, this will come out one day - whether sooner or later.
Of course, it could be all much simpler than this and actually be about Keohane and the marrow.
Please note, that the below is all supposition and is only my depraved understanding on what I believe the issues are.
Without a doubt, proper DD has picked whatever issue it is up and the Aussies want it resolved before signing off the deal. Fairly confident it is a matter outside of the EFL fit and proper test.
I also get the feeling that this, as an issue, was picked up some six months or so ago and is one of the reasons why KM - as the Clubs CEO (and therefore responsible person at the time) did a runner so quickly. I also believe Duchatalet had no idea about this issue as it has been kept in the shadows until it was identified by the Aussies (and possibly others) during DD.
If the issue needs to come out into the open to be finally resolved, (and I have my own thoughts on what it may be), then the proverbial is going to hit the fan, which will result in financial and possibly also playing side penalties. The Aussies, quite rightly, don't want this hanging over them.
Unusually for me I seem to be supporting Duchatalet's and Meire's innocence in all this as I truly believe because of his poor DD the issue wasn't picked up. That does not however make either of them non complicit in not dealing with the problem, rather to be just seen to move it onto the next owner for them to resolve.
So my theory, is that this has been well hidden in the shadows for some time - see my previous reference to Varney and Kavanagh - and only this sale of the Club is going to force it out into the open.
Obviously, there are person/s who do not want this to happen at any price - I suspect because they are culpable. They are therefore doing all they can to prevent this sale going through and continue to let sleeping dogs lie.
Whatever the outcome, this will come out one day - whether sooner or later.
Of course, it could be all much simpler than this and actually be about Keohane and the marrow.
Please note, that the below is all supposition and is only my depraved understanding on what I believe the issues are.
Without a doubt, proper DD has picked whatever issue it is up and the Aussies want it resolved before signing off the deal. Fairly confident it is a matter outside of the EFL fit and proper test.
I also get the feeling that this, as an issue, was picked up some six months or so ago and is one of the reasons why KM - as the Clubs CEO (and therefore responsible person at the time) did a runner so quickly. I also believe Duchatalet had no idea about this issue as it has been kept in the shadows until it was identified by the Aussies (and possibly others) during DD.
If the issue needs to come out into the open to be finally resolved, (and I have my own thoughts on what it may be), then the proverbial is going to hit the fan, which will result in financial and possibly also playing side penalties. The Aussies, quite rightly, don't want this hanging over them.
Unusually for me I seem to be supporting Duchatalet's and Meire's innocence in all this as I truly believe because of his poor DD the issue wasn't picked up. That does not however make either of them non complicit in not dealing with the problem, rather to be just seen to move it onto the next owner for them to resolve.
So my theory, is that this has been well hidden in the shadows for some time - see my previous reference to Varney and Kavanagh - and only this sale of the Club is going to force it out into the open.
Obviously, there are person/s who do not want this to happen at any price - I suspect because they are culpable. They are therefore doing all they can to prevent this sale going through and continue to let sleeping dogs lie.
Whatever the outcome, this will come out one day - whether sooner or later.
Of course, it could be all much simpler than this and actually be about Keohane and the marrow.
Personally I felt Meire left as she knew RD would be selling, and that the new owners would bring in a new CEO, rather than because of any skeletons in the cupboard
Sheffield Wednesday is a step up too, both on the pitch and off it too, I imagine that they're turnover and commercial revenue are significantly higher than ours.
to whom ever is the instigator of all the false shit well a little tune doing the rounds at the mo ---------------- " its coming home its coming home" ------you cant hide in the shadows forever and your reasons for doing so will be known one day "ITS COMING HOME ITS COMING HOME"
I think Bowyer is being really naive if he thinks a smaller squad than last year will fair better. I like him, but I think he is kidding himself.
He thinks he's kidding us, however I reckon we won't be kidding anyone with this squad in a couple of months time.
No, I don't think Bows is kidding us. He's already working on instilling a winning mentality as priority.
Despite the difficulties in putting a squad together, from how he's saying things I believe he knows what he wants to do within the limitations imposed presently.
He's evidently got something of a budget, however small, and he's going to be juggling that best he can. No doubt he has plenty of old mates and contacts within the game - and he's going to be leaning on them.
He's already got a decent nucleus of a squad and he'll trade 1 or 2, in order to bring in others on free transfers. There's sure to be long-term loans to augment signings.
He'll try and shape the team within his own image - hard running, tough and combatative, but with sufficient footballing ability to get results in this division. That will be his intention. Whether the current situation allows him to do everything he wants is perhaps, another matter.
Whoever is the culprit, they are doing it for personal gain. He is obviously totally oblivious of, and completely disregarding and disrespecting Charlton supporters.
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My moneys on the cardigan wearing museum curator. I believe he was once on the board.
I think we've learned enough these last few months that just saying it doesn't make it happen!
Like, what reaction is the person starting the rumour looking for and who from?
#conspiracyTheory
With that in mind of course he is not going to say anything that will rub the current owner up the wrong way.
"Just a message board thing"
WIOTOS
Without a doubt, proper DD has picked whatever issue it is up and the Aussies want it resolved before signing off the deal. Fairly confident it is a matter outside of the EFL fit and proper test.
I also get the feeling that this, as an issue, was picked up some six months or so ago and is one of the reasons why KM - as the Clubs CEO (and therefore responsible person at the time) did a runner so quickly. I also believe Duchatalet had no idea about this issue as it has been kept in the shadows until it was identified by the Aussies (and possibly others) during DD.
If the issue needs to come out into the open to be finally resolved, (and I have my own thoughts on what it may be), then the proverbial is going to hit the fan, which will result in financial and possibly also playing side penalties. The Aussies, quite rightly, don't want this hanging over them.
Unusually for me I seem to be supporting Duchatalet's and Meire's innocence in all this as I truly believe because of his poor DD the issue wasn't picked up. That does not however make either of them non complicit in not dealing with the problem, rather to be just seen to move it onto the next owner for them to resolve.
So my theory, is that this has been well hidden in the shadows for some time - see my previous reference to Varney and Kavanagh - and only this sale of the Club is going to force it out into the open.
Obviously, there are person/s who do not want this to happen at any price - I suspect because they are culpable. They are therefore doing all they can to prevent this sale going through and continue to let sleeping dogs lie.
Whatever the outcome, this will come out one day - whether sooner or later.
Of course, it could be all much simpler than this and actually be about Keohane and the marrow.
Sheffield Wednesday is a step up too, both on the pitch and off it too, I imagine that they're turnover and commercial revenue are significantly higher than ours.
He's already working on instilling a winning mentality as priority.
Despite the difficulties in putting a squad together, from how he's saying things I believe he knows what he wants to do within the limitations imposed presently.
He's evidently got something of a budget, however small, and he's going to be juggling that best he can.
No doubt he has plenty of old mates and contacts within the game - and he's going to be leaning on them.
He's already got a decent nucleus of a squad and he'll trade 1 or 2, in order to bring in others on free transfers. There's sure to be long-term loans to augment signings.
He'll try and shape the team within his own image - hard running, tough and combatative, but with sufficient footballing ability to get results in this division. That will be his intention. Whether the current situation allows him to do everything he wants is perhaps, another matter.