Has anyone else got the feeling that this is all gonna be a massive anti-climax. This consortium don't seem very dynamic do they
No they’re terrible aren’t they
Why give that response..?
"This consortium don't seem very dynamic"sums up the feelings of many fans right now.
Certainly not the way I feel, I’m glad they’re still in the hunt. As someone who buys and sells stuff almost every day I cannot imagine how complicated a deal of this nature must be.
Morning Derek
You’re right, I didn’t phrase that terribly well, but your response did make me laugh.
Has anyone else got the feeling that this is all gonna be a massive anti-climax. This consortium don't seem very dynamic do they
No they’re terrible aren’t they
Why give that response..?
"This consortium don't seem very dynamic"sums up the feelings of many fans right now.
Certainly not the way I feel, I’m glad they’re still in the hunt. As someone who buys and sells stuff almost every day I cannot imagine how complicated a deal of this nature must be.
I just buy stuff everyday and that's a tactical nightmare. 'That's £1.65.' 'Shit, SHIT. What do I do? Here's a tenner.'
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
That's just an assumption though. No-one has a clue, just because they don't want to pay over the odds doesn't mean they don't have the funds. They may have earmarked £40M for the purchase and then £50M for the next 5 years....who knows? I doubt they're trying to scrape the purchase price together and then they've got nothing. I'd rather a collective of business acumen than one lone nutter owning us.
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Because they dont want to pay 7 million to pay of ex directors, why should they?
No, because they've been sniffing around for a year and still aren't close to completing this thing. False dawn after false dawn, enough is enough.
How do you know they aren't close?
And if they haven't completed is that all, or even partially, their fault?
And the false dawns have come from other people saying it's "happening when we know what division we're in", "It's all part of his two year strategy to sell", "it will happen next week".
The current issue seems to be over the £7m debentures, an issue that Roland totally overlooked in his rush to buy the club.
The Aussies aren't to blame for that just as they aren't to blame for relegation, the huge debt, driving away other potential buyers, the mismanagement of the club or the unrealistic asking price. That's all down to one man.
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Because they dont want to pay 7 million to pay of ex directors, why should they?
No, because they've been sniffing around for a year and still aren't close to completing this thing. False dawn after false dawn, enough is enough.
How do you know they aren't close?
And if they haven't completed is that all, or even partially, their fault?
And the false dawns have come from other people saying it's "happening when we know what division we're in", "It's all part of his two year strategy to sell", "it will happen next week".
The current issue seems to be over the £7m debentures, an issue that Roland totally overlooked in his rush to buy the club.
The Aussies aren't to blame for that just as they aren't to blame for relegation, the huge debt, driving away other potential buyers, the mismanagement of the club or the unrealistic asking price. That's all done to one man.
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And the fact that RD did not do full and thorough DD when he bought the club, which has really come back to bite him on the arse if what I am told is true.
There's only one reason this deal isn't going through and that is a deluded, arrogant, greedy Belgian halfwit. Why should the Aussies pay even more over the odds than they already are for RD's incompetence?
Doesn't inspire confidence even if the Aussies complete the takeover with all this messing around. Embarrassing being seen with pictures with scarves at the Shrewsbury game for it then to not happen.
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Because they dont want to pay 7 million to pay of ex directors, why should they?
No, because they've been sniffing around for a year and still aren't close to completing this thing. False dawn after false dawn, enough is enough.
How do you know they aren't close?
And if they haven't completed is that all, or even partially, their fault?
And the false dawns have come from other people saying it's "happening when we know what division we're in", "It's all part of his two year strategy to sell", "it will happen next week".
The current issue seems to be over the £7m debentures, an issue that Roland totally overlooked in his rush to buy the club.
The Aussies aren't to blame for that just as they aren't to blame for relegation, the huge debt, driving away other potential buyers, the mismanagement of the club or the unrealistic asking price. That's all down to one man.
WIOTOS
No they don't, they come from the fact they have been negotiating a year and we STILL have not been taken over.
Apologies if this has been answered somewhere else - but who is paying for the team trip to Portugal? And, who authorised the signing /negotiating of salary of the Wimbledon lad?
Kehone with the money he's saved on breakfasts
Lord I'd love to see the luxurious accommodation they have been booked into in Portugal!
Sounds like a youth hostel to me, with six to a room.
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Because they dont want to pay 7 million to pay of ex directors, why should they?
No, because they've been sniffing around for a year and still aren't close to completing this thing. False dawn after false dawn, enough is enough.
How do you know they aren't close?
And if they haven't completed is that all, or even partially, their fault?
And the false dawns have come from other people saying it's "happening when we know what division we're in", "It's all part of his two year strategy to sell", "it will happen next week".
The current issue seems to be over the £7m debentures, an issue that Roland totally overlooked in his rush to buy the club.
The Aussies aren't to blame for that just as they aren't to blame for relegation, the huge debt, driving away other potential buyers, the mismanagement of the club or the unrealistic asking price. That's all down to one man.
WIOTOS
No they don't, they come from the fact they have been negotiating a year and we STILL have not been taken over.
But did the Aussies come out and say the club was for sale in December? No.
Or that the deal could be done in February? No
They have been trying, and maybe they are at fault, maybe it is all their fault but why could no one else do a deal with Roland. While did Donald Muir's group say it was too expensive, why aren't the megarich Saudis owners already?, why aren't Varney's buyers running the club
One common factor in all those other deals breaking down and it's Duchatelet.
Doesn't inspire confidence even if the Aussies complete the takeover with all this messing around. Embarrassing being seen with pictures with scarves at the Shrewsbury game for it then to not happen.
They may well be back by the time of the next home game. From what I've heard.
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Because they dont want to pay 7 million to pay of ex directors, why should they?
No, because they've been sniffing around for a year and still aren't close to completing this thing. False dawn after false dawn, enough is enough.
How do you know they aren't close?
And if they haven't completed is that all, or even partially, their fault?
And the false dawns have come from other people saying it's "happening when we know what division we're in", "It's all part of his two year strategy to sell", "it will happen next week".
The current issue seems to be over the £7m debentures, an issue that Roland totally overlooked in his rush to buy the club.
The Aussies aren't to blame for that just as they aren't to blame for relegation, the huge debt, driving away other potential buyers, the mismanagement of the club or the unrealistic asking price. That's all down to one man.
WIOTOS
No they don't, they come from the fact they have been negotiating a year and we STILL have not been taken over.
Ok, but why is that? If you don't know then it's very unfair to blame either party for the hold up.
We still just have to wait and see what happens. Whilst we've been given snippets of information from a number of different sources, most of it is conflicting and it's extremely difficult to build up a proper picture of exactly why things have taken so long.
I've sometimes grown tired of seeing @Henry Irving posting WIOTOS about various topics, but I think in this particular case, waiting for official information to come from the club is probably the best plan.
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Because they dont want to pay 7 million to pay of ex directors, why should they?
No, because they've been sniffing around for a year and still aren't close to completing this thing. False dawn after false dawn, enough is enough.
How do you know they aren't close?
And if they haven't completed is that all, or even partially, their fault?
And the false dawns have come from other people saying it's "happening when we know what division we're in", "It's all part of his two year strategy to sell", "it will happen next week".
The current issue seems to be over the £7m debentures, an issue that Roland totally overlooked in his rush to buy the club.
The Aussies aren't to blame for that just as they aren't to blame for relegation, the huge debt, driving away other potential buyers, the mismanagement of the club or the unrealistic asking price. That's all down to one man.
WIOTOS
No they don't, they come from the fact they have been negotiating a year and we STILL have not been taken over.
But did the Aussies come out and say the club was for sale in December? No.
Or that the deal could be done in February? No
They have been trying, and maybe they are at fault, maybe it is all their fault but why could no one else do a deal with Roland. While did Donald Muir's group say it was too expensive, why aren't the megarich Saudis owners already?, why aren't Varney's buyers running the club
One common factor in all those other deals breaking down and it's Duchatelet.
Did i reference those events as being the cause of my original comment?
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
How do you come to that conclusion?
Because they dont want to pay 7 million to pay of ex directors, why should they?
No, because they've been sniffing around for a year and still aren't close to completing this thing. False dawn after false dawn, enough is enough.
How do you know they aren't close?
And if they haven't completed is that all, or even partially, their fault?
And the false dawns have come from other people saying it's "happening when we know what division we're in", "It's all part of his two year strategy to sell", "it will happen next week".
The current issue seems to be over the £7m debentures, an issue that Roland totally overlooked in his rush to buy the club.
The Aussies aren't to blame for that just as they aren't to blame for relegation, the huge debt, driving away other potential buyers, the mismanagement of the club or the unrealistic asking price. That's all down to one man.
WIOTOS
No they don't, they come from the fact they have been negotiating a year and we STILL have not been taken over.
But did the Aussies come out and say the club was for sale in December? No.
Or that the deal could be done in February? No
They have been trying, and maybe they are at fault, maybe it is all their fault but why could no one else do a deal with Roland. While did Donald Muir's group say it was too expensive, why aren't the megarich Saudis owners already?, why aren't Varney's buyers running the club
One common factor in all those other deals breaking down and it's Duchatelet.
Did i reference those events as being the cause of my original comment?
No, but they were "false dawns" and you said "False dawn after false dawn, enough is enough."
I'm not sure any of the false dawns were heralded by the Aussies.
They should only accept any less than full settlement if it’s part of a contract for the sale process of the whole club and not a way of separating the club and ground..
Edit: perhaps they could convert the remainder of their loans to club unsecured debt or equity? But I guess in that circumstance they’d be expected to invest further
Aussies can fuck off now, had enough of it. They clearly haven't got the funds, just walk now and put an end to it.
That's just an assumption though. No-one has a clue, just because they don't want to pay over the odds doesn't mean they don't have the funds. They may have earmarked £40M for the purchase and then £50M for the next 5 years....who knows? I doubt they're trying to scrape the purchase price together and then they've got nothing. I'd rather a collective of business acumen than one lone nutter owning us.
Unless that's £50m a year for the next 5 years they can do one.
Whilst I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt given the individual they are trying to purchase the club from, there is no doubt in my mind that Muir's appearance at the home play off game draped in a scarf was somewhat presumptive. I am sure that in hindsight he and his colleagues regret that.
Whilst I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt given the individual they are trying to purchase the club from, there is no doubt in my mind that Muir's appearance at the home play off game draped in a scarf was somewhat presumptive. I am sure that in hindsight he and his colleagues regret that.
They won't if they buy the club.
Or if like many they don't have regrets, instead they learn lessons
Whilst I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt given the individual they are trying to purchase the club from, there is no doubt in my mind that Muir's appearance at the home play off game draped in a scarf was somewhat presumptive. I am sure that in hindsight he and his colleagues regret that.
Is it that different from this? Would it have been different if he hadn't worn a Charlton scarf?
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Because they dont want to pay 7 million to pay of ex directors, why should they?
And if they haven't completed is that all, or even partially, their fault?
And the false dawns have come from other people saying it's "happening when we know what division we're in", "It's all part of his two year strategy to sell", "it will happen next week".
The current issue seems to be over the £7m debentures, an issue that Roland totally overlooked in his rush to buy the club.
The Aussies aren't to blame for that just as they aren't to blame for relegation, the huge debt, driving away other potential buyers, the mismanagement of the club or the unrealistic asking price. That's all down to one man.
WIOTOS
Sounds like a youth hostel to me, with six to a room.
Or that the deal could be done in February? No
They have been trying, and maybe they are at fault, maybe it is all their fault but why could no one else do a deal with Roland. While did Donald Muir's group say it was too expensive, why aren't the megarich Saudis owners already?, why aren't Varney's buyers running the club
One common factor in all those other deals breaking down and it's Duchatelet.
We still just have to wait and see what happens. Whilst we've been given snippets of information from a number of different sources, most of it is conflicting and it's extremely difficult to build up a proper picture of exactly why things have taken so long.
I've sometimes grown tired of seeing @Henry Irving posting WIOTOS about various topics, but I think in this particular case, waiting for official information to come from the club is probably the best plan.
I'm not sure any of the false dawns were heralded by the Aussies.
Edit: perhaps they could convert the remainder of their loans to club unsecured debt or equity? But I guess in that circumstance they’d be expected to invest further
Or if like many they don't have regrets, instead they learn lessons