For the benefit of anyone interested. FA is referring to this interview Alex Dyer gave to the SLP.
I produced this interview at a VIP meeting and Meire said it wasn't true.
I asked why he would say it then, as it tended to confirm what Chris Powell had said.
Meire stated that the reason was that they were bitter ex-employees.
I asked Meire if she was calling Dyer a liar.
Meire refused to answer and was advised not to answer by club officials. I wonder why ?
If that makes me "a person who has no respect for others who tries to ruin meetings (as evidenced by disruptive behavior at VIP meetings)", then I'd disagree. No respect for Meire, I would agree.
I'd say it was the actions of someone who will not let Meire's lies go unchallenged, especially when those lies are aimed at Chris Powell and Alex Dyer, who have more honour in their little finger than that woman has in her whole body.
Sounds to me as though sweet FA thinks that Coventry is a home match.....hence his opinion that no-one would want to join a club starting next season on negative points.
Guilty of bad wording, did not make clear I fear that a small element will try to get swindon game abandoned.
Ps you did such a great job with the Pierre Bolangi memorial garden I hope your current bitterness to the club has not got in the way of this, honest question, last I heard was that it was being moved to a different part of sparrows lane.
What a strange thing to say.
Fanny has no "bitterness" to the club, she loves the club as do I and all the other protesters. It's because of people like Fanny who give of their time to do things like the memorial garden that this club is so special.
The only one who is spouting hate and bitterness about other fans is you.
You state The worst kind of regime apologist
Yet I am the one sprouting hate and bitterness
I support Charlton not the regime,
"bitter twisted pathetic individuals who will not be missed" is what you said. Lots of hate and bitterness there. Or are you pretending you didn't say that?
Before that you'd had a dig a CARD for an made up reason of stopping players signing in the summer.
Previously you've told fans who are unhappy to go and support Millwall.
Maybe if you had said
"I don't support the regime but I think getting the Swindon game abandoned would be a bad thing" you might have got a reasoned debate. But you didn't. You started throwing insults around and then got upset when people disagreed with your nonsense and overreactions.
Anyway, don't let me stop you leaving, you said you wanted to go, what's keeping you?
It's nearly 2 hours now FA. I'd like to hear what I said that so upset you, especially as you have said that you do not support RD.
I can only presume that you think we should let all the lies go unchallenged and just keep quiet, whilst RD/KM continue to literally destroy the club that we all love.
Well sorry my fellow supporter, I will not do that.
If someone is wrecking the club I love, I will not keep quiet and I will challenge them in every way possible, until they sell up.
Now now, we've all had a coffee. FA is entitled to his opinion and to express it here. He/she might have worded it less angrily or provocatively but let's have the debate.
For me there's no evidence whatsoever that CARD will stop players joining the club - it's not as if we've not had a whole new set every summer after all. Equally, if buyers would be put off by the intelligent campaign CARD has executed then there wouldn't have been a single approach, let alone the regular ones KM described.
The reason Henry points to views of friends is that such assertion has no grounding in fact, just opinion. And it happens to be the overriding opinion of the relatively few if vocal frequenters of another place. Theyre entitled to their views, as indeed are you FA, but they are evidently grounded in personal antipathy for those they in all likelihood have never even met. The truth is that what CARD - and the other organised protesters - have achieved from a campaign perspective is nothing short of incredulous. Whilst RD will never admit it, any sale of the club is the result, directly or indirectly, of the organised protests. Such protests have been peaceful and within acceptable boundaries of law. No points have been deducted, and results on major protest days have often been positive, not least because loud protests get the crowd going.
Finally, the idea that there is a silent majority who aren't protesting doesn't quite fit with what I've observed home and especially away this season and last. That things have been quieter at the Valley in terms of protests is surely related to the scarcity of support in the ground, not something CARD has ever called for. Protest fatigue has no doubt played its part too, but speaking as one who was protesting in Belgium earlier this month I'd say there is much evidence to suggest the core of Charlton fans at the very least are protesting and with a clear end game in mind. One that might very well be drawing to a conclusion.
So don't disappear, debate us. You may have an angle we've not considered and I know CARD is very careful to consider all views so they can draw supporters with them.
You tried to monopolize the meeting, you kept interrupting, others wanted to ask about other issues but you would not give it a rest, had the misfortune of being within earshot of you, was not the only one around that area who wished you had walked out.
My opinion, you have got your answer, you will criticise it but get no response
Oh, but FA you're not entitled to call an individual out and not support what you've said. So please have the courtesy of answering Covered End or withdraw your accusation.
You tried to monopolize the meeting, you kept interrupting, others wanted to ask about other issues but you would not give it a rest, had the misfortune of being within earshot of you, was not the only one around that area who wished you had walked out.
My opinion, you have got your answer, you will criticise it but get no response
Thanks for replying. I agree with you. When someone refuses to answer a question, do you ever ask yourself why ?
I readily admit that I will not be put off by someone like Meire who refuses to answer a reasonable question put to her.
I will try and try again in an attempt to get an honest answer.
The reason it was uncomfortable, is because she lied and I was unwilling to accept her lie and let her move on to another question.
You may be unaware but that is her usual tactic. Put in some human shields like players and other staff and try and get fans to ask questions about players kit and other such unimportant matters, in the scheme of things.
I also agree that some fans told me to give it a rest and that is their right, but at the end of the day I know I will have done my best to counter Meire's lies and not just sat idly by.
Anyway, all the best to you, I'm optimistic we can all celebrate their leaving in the not too distant future.
NB I wonder what it would take for some people to challenge being wronged.
If someone's partner or children were being mistreated would someone still not have the courage to say anything ?
Well I love Charlton, nearly as much as my family and I won't stand by and do nothing.
Sounds to me as though sweet FA thinks that Coventry is a home match.....hence his opinion that no-one would want to join a club starting next season on negative points.
Guilty of bad wording, did not make clear I fear that a small element will try to get swindon game abandoned.
Ps you did such a great job with the Pierre Bolangi memorial garden I hope your current bitterness to the club has not got in the way of this, honest question, last I heard was that it was being moved to a different part of sparrows lane.
What a strange thing to say.
Fanny has no "bitterness" to the club, she loves the club as do I and all the other protesters. It's because of people like Fanny who give of their time to do things like the memorial garden that this club is so special.
The only one who is spouting hate and bitterness about other fans is you.
You state The worst kind of regime apologist
Yet I am the one sprouting hate and bitterness
I support Charlton not the regime,
"bitter twisted pathetic individuals who will not be missed" is what you said. Lots of hate and bitterness there. Or are you pretending you didn't say that?
Before that you'd had a dig a CARD for an made up reason of stopping players signing in the summer.
Previously you've told fans who are unhappy to go and support Millwall.
Maybe if you had said
"I don't support the regime but I think getting the Swindon game abandoned would be a bad thing" you might have got a reasoned debate. But you didn't. You started throwing insults around and then got upset when people disagreed with your nonsense and overreactions.
Anyway, don't let me stop you leaving, you said you wanted to go, what's keeping you?
Yes I said that, red mist comment, not a comment I am proud of, not one I would have made if I had not responded to your post straight after reading it, no regrets to making it.
My opinion is that disruption at matches will cause players to choose other clubs if they are wanted by more than one, as will number of previous managers, training ground, length of contract etc, cannot believe I am the only who thinks this.
Seem to recall saying that back in the distance past, all it shows is that my stance hasn't changed over the years and I do not feel that a family club is the right place for all individuals.
Who are you to tell me what I should be posting, arrogance to the extreme, that has to be the most offensive comment I have read, to be expected.
Sounds to me as though sweet FA thinks that Coventry is a home match.....hence his opinion that no-one would want to join a club starting next season on negative points.
Guilty of bad wording, did not make clear I fear that a small element will try to get swindon game abandoned.
Ps you did such a great job with the Pierre Bolangi memorial garden I hope your current bitterness to the club has not got in the way of this, honest question, last I heard was that it was being moved to a different part of sparrows lane.
What a strange thing to say.
Fanny has no "bitterness" to the club, she loves the club as do I and all the other protesters. It's because of people like Fanny who give of their time to do things like the memorial garden that this club is so special.
The only one who is spouting hate and bitterness about other fans is you.
You state The worst kind of regime apologist
Yet I am the one sprouting hate and bitterness
I support Charlton not the regime,
"bitter twisted pathetic individuals who will not be missed" is what you said. Lots of hate and bitterness there. Or are you pretending you didn't say that?
Before that you'd had a dig a CARD for an made up reason of stopping players signing in the summer.
Previously you've told fans who are unhappy to go and support Millwall.
Maybe if you had said
"I don't support the regime but I think getting the Swindon game abandoned would be a bad thing" you might have got a reasoned debate. But you didn't. You started throwing insults around and then got upset when people disagreed with your nonsense and overreactions.
Anyway, don't let me stop you leaving, you said you wanted to go, what's keeping you?
Yes I said that, red mist comment, not a comment I am proud of, not one I would have made if I had not responded to your post straight after reading it, no regrets to making it.
My opinion is that disruption at matches will cause players to choose other clubs if they are wanted by more than one, as will number of previous managers, training ground, length of contract etc, cannot believe I am the only who thinks this.
Seem to recall saying that back in the distance past, all it shows is that my stance hasn't changed over the years and I do not feel that a family club is the right place for all individuals.
Who are you to tell me what I should be posting, arrogance to the extreme, that has to be the most offensive comment I have read, to be expected.
Admin/moderator please delete me from this site.
So you're not proud of it and it was the red mist but you have no regrets saying it. Strange sort of apology.
Yourthinking is all over the place. When did I tell you that you shouldn't be posting? YOU SAID YOU WERE LEAVING. That's not arrogance that's just repeating what you said. Yet you pretend to take offence about something you SAID YOURSELF.
You don't need admin to delete you, you have control, just stop posting if that IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. I'm not telling you to leave, I'd actually prefer it if you stayed as when you've calmed down and stopped insulting people you might be able to add to a reasoned debate but I'm not all that bothered either way.
Just stop insulting whole groups of people, making up fanciful reasons to attack CARD and then getting upset when others disagree with you.
Well done CARD ruin any chance of signing decent players in the close season, what a fine organisation you are!
Well played, getting the excuses in early for ANOTHER squad building failure. It's clearly not the the lack of funds and the merry go round of managers that stops them joining Charlton is it?
No, players and agents will say "I'm not joining Charlton on 12k a week because their fans organise coaches to away games. How will I be able to cope"
The worst kind of regime apologist who is blind to the damage the owner and SMT is doing but had to blame someone so picks on the people trying to save the club to defend those destroying it.
Don't care about coaches, Swindon game is issue, you are typical of ex employees/fans director bitter twisted pathetic individuals who will not be missed if they never step foot into the valley again,
Hopefully this will get me banned from this site that has become a vindictive waste of space.
i cant make Coventry but will be there for my first visit to the valley this season . its a long way from Falmouth but worth it to show my support , might even buy a ticket to the match
FA, there wont be any game abandonment, not so long ago they were all going on the pitch, led by a bloke on here that talked about it for weeks, of course nothing happened apart from one poor sod that looked a total prat all on his own!
You tried to monopolize the meeting, you kept interrupting, others wanted to ask about other issues but you would not give it a rest, had the misfortune of being within earshot of you, was not the only one around that area who wished you had walked out.
My opinion, you have got your answer, you will criticise it but get no response
Sounds to me as though sweet FA thinks that Coventry is a home match.....hence his opinion that no-one would want to join a club starting next season on negative points.
Guilty of bad wording, did not make clear I fear that a small element will try to get swindon game abandoned.
Ps you did such a great job with the Pierre Bolangi memorial garden I hope your current bitterness to the club has not got in the way of this, honest question, last I heard was that it was being moved to a different part of sparrows lane.
What a strange thing to say.
Fanny has no "bitterness" to the club, she loves the club as do I and all the other protesters. It's because of people like Fanny who give of their time to do things like the memorial garden that this club is so special.
The only one who is spouting hate and bitterness about other fans is you.
You state The worst kind of regime apologist
Yet I am the one sprouting hate and bitterness
I support Charlton not the regime,
"bitter twisted pathetic individuals who will not be missed" is what you said. Lots of hate and bitterness there. Or are you pretending you didn't say that?
Before that you'd had a dig a CARD for an made up reason of stopping players signing in the summer.
Previously you've told fans who are unhappy to go and support Millwall.
Maybe if you had said
"I don't support the regime but I think getting the Swindon game abandoned would be a bad thing" you might have got a reasoned debate. But you didn't. You started throwing insults around and then got upset when people disagreed with your nonsense and overreactions.
Anyway, don't let me stop you leaving, you said you wanted to go, what's keeping you?
Yes I said that, red mist comment, not a comment I am proud of, not one I would have made if I had not responded to your post straight after reading it, no regrets to making it.
My opinion is that disruption at matches will cause players to choose other clubs if they are wanted by more than one, as will number of previous managers, training ground, length of contract etc, cannot believe I am the only who thinks this.
Seem to recall saying that back in the distance past, all it shows is that my stance hasn't changed over the years and I do not feel that a family club is the right place for all individuals.
Who are you to tell me what I should be posting, arrogance to the extreme, that has to be the most offensive comment I have read, to be expected.
Admin/moderator please delete me from this site.
Players only care about their pay packet, they could not give a flying about the protests.
I suffer the same problem as fishydick , every time i turn my computer on or look at phone I end up on this poxy site and end up reading and writing stuff on it . I seriously try and stay away but as with fishy I have no control and keep coming back Admin please delete me I'm incapable of not coming on here
I suffer the same problem as fishydick , every time i turn my computer on or look at phone I end up on this poxy site and end up reading and writing stuff on it . I seriously try and stay away but as with fishy I have no control and keep coming back Admin please delete me I'm incapable of not coming on here
3% chance of being deleted, 97% chance being kept on.
Fellow Charlton supporter sees red mist over some CARD announcement about protests.
Makes some unfortunate comments and the. tries to get themself banned.
Hasn't actually done enough to get banned so in the interests of free speech will almost certainly (haven't checked here) not get banned unless goes even more extreme over a longer period.
Had a really good discussion with one of the main Coventry protest organisers today. Quite frankly, their owners are truly awful and they face a massive struggle to even stay viable as a club. They are very appreciative of all of us who are going up there to protest against SISU, as well as against Duchatelet. They are full of admiration for Charlton fans and what they have achieved in the battles to save the spirit of our club and are looking forward to working with us again.
I hope we turn up in big numbers to make it a day to remember.
I hope we can take decent numbers. It's a bit late for many it being the Easter weekend and that.
I'll be there with Roo and my dad who comes from Coventry but will isn't a big sky blues fan as he used to play decent standard (now would be pro) rugby. We have tickets together and the earlier we get to hear what's going on the better to arrange one of the two days we are with him over Easter.
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I produced this interview at a VIP meeting and Meire said it wasn't true.
I asked why he would say it then, as it tended to confirm what Chris Powell had said.
Meire stated that the reason was that they were bitter ex-employees.
I asked Meire if she was calling Dyer a liar.
Meire refused to answer and was advised not to answer by club officials. I wonder why ?
If that makes me "a person who has no respect for others who tries to ruin meetings (as evidenced by disruptive behavior at VIP meetings)", then I'd disagree. No respect for Meire, I would agree.
I'd say it was the actions of someone who will not let Meire's lies go unchallenged, especially when those lies are aimed at Chris Powell and Alex Dyer, who have more honour in their little finger than that woman has in her whole body.
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Before that you'd had a dig a CARD for an made up reason of stopping players signing in the summer.
Previously you've told fans who are unhappy to go and support Millwall.
Maybe if you had said
"I don't support the regime but I think getting the Swindon game abandoned would be a bad thing" you might have got a reasoned debate. But you didn't. You started throwing insults around and then got upset when people disagreed with your nonsense and overreactions.
Anyway, don't let me stop you leaving, you said you wanted to go, what's keeping you?
I can only presume that you think we should let all the lies go unchallenged and just keep quiet, whilst RD/KM continue to literally destroy the club that we all love.
Well sorry my fellow supporter, I will not do that.
If someone is wrecking the club I love, I will not keep quiet and I will challenge them in every way possible, until they sell up.
For me there's no evidence whatsoever that CARD will stop players joining the club - it's not as if we've not had a whole new set every summer after all. Equally, if buyers would be put off by the intelligent campaign CARD has executed then there wouldn't have been a single approach, let alone the regular ones KM described.
The reason Henry points to views of friends is that such assertion has no grounding in fact, just opinion. And it happens to be the overriding opinion of the relatively few if vocal frequenters of another place. Theyre entitled to their views, as indeed are you FA, but they are evidently grounded in personal antipathy for those they in all likelihood have never even met. The truth is that what CARD - and the other organised protesters - have achieved from a campaign perspective is nothing short of incredulous. Whilst RD will never admit it, any sale of the club is the result, directly or indirectly, of the organised protests. Such protests have been peaceful and within acceptable boundaries of law. No points have been deducted, and results on major protest days have often been positive, not least because loud protests get the crowd going.
Finally, the idea that there is a silent majority who aren't protesting doesn't quite fit with what I've observed home and especially away this season and last. That things have been quieter at the Valley in terms of protests is surely related to the scarcity of support in the ground, not something CARD has ever called for. Protest fatigue has no doubt played its part too, but speaking as one who was protesting in Belgium earlier this month I'd say there is much evidence to suggest the core of Charlton fans at the very least are protesting and with a clear end game in mind. One that might very well be drawing to a conclusion.
So don't disappear, debate us. You may have an angle we've not considered and I know CARD is very careful to consider all views so they can draw supporters with them.
My opinion, you have got your answer, you will criticise it but get no response
I readily admit that I will not be put off by someone like Meire who refuses to answer a reasonable question put to her.
I will try and try again in an attempt to get an honest answer.
The reason it was uncomfortable, is because she lied and I was unwilling to accept her lie and let her move on to another question.
You may be unaware but that is her usual tactic. Put in some human shields like players and other staff and try and get fans to ask questions about players kit and other such unimportant matters, in the scheme of things.
I also agree that some fans told me to give it a rest and that is their right, but at the end of the day I know I will have done my best to counter Meire's lies and not just sat idly by.
Anyway, all the best to you, I'm optimistic we can all celebrate their leaving in the not too distant future.
NB I wonder what it would take for some people to challenge being wronged.
If someone's partner or children were being mistreated would someone still not have the courage to say anything ?
Well I love Charlton, nearly as much as my family and I won't stand by and do nothing.
My opinion is that disruption at matches will cause players to choose other clubs if they are wanted by more than one, as will number of previous managers, training ground, length of contract etc, cannot believe I am the only who thinks this.
Seem to recall saying that back in the distance past, all it shows is that my stance hasn't changed over the years and I do not feel that a family club is the right place for all individuals.
Who are you to tell me what I should be posting, arrogance to the extreme, that has to be the most offensive comment I have read, to be expected.
Admin/moderator please delete me from this site.
Yourthinking is all over the place. When did I tell you that you shouldn't be posting? YOU SAID YOU WERE LEAVING. That's not arrogance that's just repeating what you said. Yet you pretend to take offence about something you SAID YOURSELF.
You don't need admin to delete you, you have control, just stop posting if that IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. I'm not telling you to leave, I'd actually prefer it if you stayed as when you've calmed down and stopped insulting people you might be able to add to a reasoned debate but I'm not all that bothered either way.
Just stop insulting whole groups of people, making up fanciful reasons to attack CARD and then getting upset when others disagree with you.
Easy really isn't it
I'll send you a pm,
On second thoughts
I seriously try and stay away but as with fishy I have no control and keep coming back
Admin please delete me I'm incapable of not coming on here
Fellow Charlton supporter sees red mist over some CARD announcement about protests.
Makes some unfortunate comments and the. tries to get themself banned.
Hasn't actually done enough to get banned so in the interests of free speech will almost certainly (haven't checked here) not get banned unless goes even more extreme over a longer period.
Protesting against the protests.
I hope we turn up in big numbers to make it a day to remember.
Watch for further information in due course.
I'll be there with Roo and my dad who comes from Coventry but will isn't a big sky blues fan as he used to play decent standard (now would be pro) rugby. We have tickets together and the earlier we get to hear what's going on the better to arrange one of the two days we are with him over Easter.