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What will it take for Robinson to stop using 4-2-3-1?
Callumcafc
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We clearly don't have the players for his favoured formation. Be as serious or as stupid as you like with your suggestions.
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When he is relieved of his duties
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Why does he keep playing Crofts?2
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He'll be getting the bullet by Saturday, that'll stop him.0
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Posted on the match thread :
A manager who has got the players playing too much on the edge. Too many red cards.
A manager who can ONLY play one formation, regardless of the opposition, their set up and how best to play against them.
A manager who loves the sound of his own voice.
A manager who blindly is pro regime, regardless of their complete lack of football knowledge.
The BEST manager we could possibly attract as a basket case of a football club.
I am literally lost for words. Numb. No pain anymore. The club I grew up loving is dead to me.
My 10 year old son asked for a LOOKMAN EVERTON kit for his birthday, because there are no Charlton players he can look up to.
RIP CAFC as I know it.6 -
All joking aside, it can't be long now can it?iamdan said:He'll be getting the bullet by Saturday, that'll stop him.
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red cards is a joke .....he must be on borrowed time ....just devoid of anything1
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When he becomes Chris O'loughlin.4 -
His time at franchise shows he will not abandon this system.2
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Just waiting for the news now that he is sacked and the Irishman is in charge!0
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Can't agree he doesn't have a no 10 ie someone who can pick up knock downs but also take ball off midfield with back to goal, turn and make something happen. Watt is ideal but KR plays him wide left or right. Holmes should be up to it and KAG if he has got over his debut season.0
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Robinson can fuck off. Worst manager of the lot and the biggest tosser of them all.5
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The thing is if he goes soon we've had to listen to all his crap and spin since October? when Brussel got the heave ho, for no return Aaaarrrrggggghhhh!0
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In 2020 during his second go on the Roland merry go round1
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Roland to tell him he should now play 4-2-2-2.0
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It's an important part of my day job to recognise bullsh*t artists when I come across them, and KR ticks all of the boxes...4
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I turned the job down, because (in a rare Socratic moment of sanity) I recognise that I'm clueless...dajavouslagan said:Just waiting for the news now that he is sacked and the Irishman is in charge!
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I'm sure he's only using it because he thinks he needs to look a trendy modern coach using the latest system. Someone tell him he's behind the times. Guardiola uses 4-1-2-3, with five attacking players, Zidane also at Real, as did Wenger at Sutton last night, Montella at AC Milan, Sarri at Napoli, Mihailovic at Torino, Puel at Southampton, Lambert has already adopted it at Wolves, Jokanovic at Fulham, Silva at Hull, McLaren at Derby, have all switched to 4-1-2-3.
Robbo needs to liven up, he's looking like a dinosaur.
However in all seriousness, the system should fit the players. Conte has proved that this season at Chelsea by switching to 3-4-3, after starting with 4-2-3-1. PSG used 4-2-3-1 to beat Barca 4-0 last week, who are 4-3-3, and have been for a number of seasons. So 4-2-3-1 can still be very effective. Either you sign players to fit a system or chose a system to fit what you have.12 -
Up till now, I didn't think this. However, and much to my annoyance, I'm now wondering if you are right.newyorkaddick said:It's an important part of my day job to recognise bullsh*t artists when I come across them, and KR ticks all of the boxes...
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Look at their goal and you'll see how they found space in front of our back four - how can that be allowed to happen in a disciplined 4-2-3-1?1
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a little email could be waiting in his inbox in the morning1
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It shouldn't happen, not against a side like Oxford. With the players we have, there is no way we should be leaving players unaccounted for between the lines, especially not with a double pivot. The 4-2-3-1 relies a lot on possession between the lines in possession and therefore the players must know the importance of conceeding this spacenewyorkaddick said:Look at their goal and you'll see how they found space in front of our back four - how can that be allowed to happen in a disciplined 4-2-3-1?
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Should be getting his P45 soon.0
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What's the point in having wingers that don't put crosses in? What's the point in having 3 in midfield. What's the point in having1 up front? Clueless, absolutely clueless. You get the feeling Robinson is in way over his head.1
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The sack will stop him. No chance of that tho. It'll be the first decision the Douchebag's got right if he elbows the fat scouse piss taking gobshite. Those 2 pricks deserve each other1
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Share his email address?!floydroadfaithfull said:a little email could be waiting in his inbox in the morning
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Never liked him before he came here, a chancer with little clue on how to change things when they start to go wrong.
Way out of his depth here and seems completely hung up on his system although did seem to change to 442 when Watt came on.0 -
Within that 18 tonight there was enough to play a 4-4:2, even doing it with 30 mins to go.
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Token MK fan here back to offer my two-peneth.
He will never, ever abandon 4-2-3-1. It's his thing. It's one of the reasons we were relegated and had a poor start to the season - that Robinson is a stubborn tactician and will not and can not adapt his tactics to suit the opposition. Even if you have no holding midfielders available, he will still find a couple of poor souls to play there. Good luck doing well under this formation without a decent lone striker - we only got promoted from League 1 because we had Benik Afobe and Will Grigg rotating as the lone striker and both were 20+ goal players.
Basically, he'll buy, beg and borrow to try and get players to fit his system, and if he doesn't then he'll still play it anyway. You are stuck with it until he goes unfortunately.
To put things into perspective - Robbie Neilson our new manager has come in and completely overhauled our squad, has changed our formation to suit the opposition and we've been very competitive since he took over (losing by the odd goal, but also had some impressive wins scoring 4 v Posh away and 5 at home to Northampton). This is with 90% of the same squad he inherited from Robinson. Since Neilson took over in early-December we've played 4-2-3-1, 3-4-3 and a 4-4-2 diamond.
To summarise, if you have decent players, particuarly a good lone striker, and two good holding midfielders, it will work well. But otherwise, it's the luck of the draw.
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