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  • Nicholas said:

    Leuth said:

    supaclive said:

    A leader would not win three out of sixteen games in this division "with a top six wage bill"

    If you gave Winston Churchill (Robbo) control of the British Army (CAFC) but then took away its guns (Magennis) for a month, and then gave them back all rusty, why, then the Bosch would be at our bloody doorstep!
    You talk utter shit. We had a whole month to buy new players better players but we failed to do so yet again. We sold our best player we then signed players with no experience or average league 1 players.
    Lookman was a nuclear bomb. In the right hands decisive, but probably not for use in local European conflict. Our rationed funds will help the long-term effort. Dig Robbo for Victory!
  • Robinson needs a good eye test or lie detector test .. his 'report' is rubbish, inaccurate and misleading, though I can understand why he does this ..
    any manager who could keep Konsa in central defence after his non appearance at Oldham needs to get a reality/credibility check ..
    Karl should shut up and let his team do the talking .. today's performance was good, though we have been led up the garden path before .. we need consistency and good management NOT (the buzz term of the month) fake news or opinions which although he is entitled to them, are just NOT gonna hold any credence especially for those of us who were at the game(s)
  • Leuth said:

    supaclive said:

    A leader would not win three out of sixteen games in this division "with a top six wage bill"

    If you gave Winston Churchill (Robbo) control of the British Army (CAFC) but then took away its guns (Magennis) for a month, and then gave them back all rusty, why, then the Bosch would be at our bloody doorstep!
    True. I think Mr Churchill would have spent some of an £11m windfall with a quality replacement/back up/foil for his missing guns(Magennis).

    I also think that Mr Churchill wouldn't have allowed a computer nerd based in Belgium, backed by a madman, to select his troops.
    There's some great spec-fic in this
  • Leuth said:

    Leuth said:

    Leuth said:

    And when it no longer matters, when the play offs are out of sight we will go on a little run.

    And all will be well, the future will be bright and we'll be told to renew our season tickets, get behind the team and wait to see how wonderful the rebuilt squad will be in August.

    And some will buy the lies again, just like before.

    That is how Powell began tbf
    Even if Robinson equals Powell, Meire doesn't equal Varney. There was a huge back office effort to build that promotion squad. It wasn't just the manager.
    I do hope the forthcoming Belgium protests focus on Meire's incompetence and the absolute unacceptability of a club like Charlton to be in League One without making uncompromising efforts to get out of it. CARD have had their uses so far - this season, contrary to popular opinion, has been much more competently-run than the three previous, perhaps in part due to visible dissent - but the pressure group has to focus its efforts on the areas that can be altered without potentially catastrophic fallout (such as RD selling to an even worse owner, which is imo distinctly possible). A proper CEO who understands what we need in a squad-building sense would be the single biggest step in the right direction.
    Well said Sue.
    What's your plan - insult the locals with your appalling cod-Walloon in Sint-Truiden?
    I've lol'd it because within 24 hours of your birthday thread and well wishes, normal service has resumed
  • edited February 2017
    Leuth said:

    Oh, better still, it's a Henry Irving flag! The best flag

    On the contrary: they're the most meaningless.
  • Just heard that KR has finally stopped talking at the post match conference...4 hours answer to question 1...not bad especially as he was alone with the lights switched off for the last 30 mins!
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  • Lookman was a nuclear bomb. In the right hands decisive, but probably not for use in local European conflict. Our rationed funds will help the long-term effort. Dig Robbo for Victory!

    You've been drinking all day haven't you?
  • edited February 2017


    Lookman was a nuclear bomb. In the right hands decisive, but probably not for use in local European conflict. Our rationed funds will help the long-term effort. Dig Robbo for Victory!

    You've been drinking all day haven't you?

    That was yesterday. Drinking and walking 20kms on a sprained ankle. Maybe this is all delayed effect
  • Yet again he's digging out some players, anyone care to guess which one's? Moral is going to be rock bottom, this could be dangerous if he loses the dressing room.

    He's said not for the first time about peoples dedication, in one sentence he mentions rather having an average player giving 100% than a skilful player just doing enough, and makes mention of the Arsenal Loanee's attitude (when we scored).

    I think if he's here in the summer they'll be an even bigger clearcut than most of us fear.

    1. Declan Rudd - Will go
    2. Lewis Page - Remain
    3. Adam Chicken - Remain
    4. Johnnie Jackson - Will go (sadly, the end is nigh)
    5. Patrick Bauer - Will go
    6. Roger Johnson - Will go (please please please)
    7. Tony Watt - Will go
    8. Andrew Crofts - Might stay I think, one more year.
    9. Josh Magennis -Will go
    11. Ricky Holmes - Will go
    12. Stephy Mavididi (will go back
    13. Dillon Phillips -Remain
    14. Jordan Botaka - Will go
    15. Ezri Konsa - Will go
    16. Jason Pearce - Remain
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad - Will go
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - Will go
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey - Remain
    20. Chris Solly - Remain
    21. Nathan Byrne - Will go
    25. Ahmed Kasha - Gone
    26. Harry Lennon - Will go
    27. Dimitar Bitov - Will go
    30. Lee Novak - Will go
    32. Joe Aribo - Remain
    35. George Lapse - Remain
    36. Jay Dasilva - Will go
    42. Jordan Beeney - Will go
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Will Go

    I think thats how depleted a base we will be starting from.
  • All those Remains have gotten me in the mood for a great big Brexit analogy. You all ready
  • Leuth said:

    All those Remains have gotten me in the mood for a great big Brexit analogy. You all ready

    Just noticed your picture reflects Charlton's form since Roland took over.

    Ok I'll leave you alone now promise :)
  • The, ahem, club 'management' of Tex is symptomatic of how useless they are on nearly every level.
    Get him, contract him, pay him, don't play him, invent injuries, play him under sufferance, a 'frictionless' transfer is unable to happen in the summer, what to do next? The Tex 'player malarkey' situation isn't the only one anyway at the club.
    Badly run.
    The FAA, Football Agents Association is introducing 'The Roger Johnson Award' to their favourite football CEO.
  • I don't actually think our squad is that good. Who would you have as Championship starters. Possibly Solly, Tex although our defence is leaky maybe Josh.

    Everyone else is bang average for L1 which is why we're 13th.

    I'm not sure Josh is Championship material. He's a grafter, no doubt, but you need to be more clinical against many of the Championship teams. I think he would struggle.
    Well i think he definitely is, because the first time I saw him was here in Prague representing his country, against a far better defence than anything in the Championship. Admittedly it was only 30 minutes, but he did everything that Kyle Rafferty, whom he replaced, did not. Unlucky not to score with his first touch, and had the Czechs on the back foot with his running of the channels and almost faultless knock downs to green shirts (Rafferty hardly won a single header). Of course he slotted into a team that was orchestrated by Southampton's Steven Davies, the best player on the park that night, but in the Championship he might hope to be playing with someone like Steven Davies.

    Like I said, I might get carried away with a half hour cameo, but when I saw it, i thought "blimey, we have a player here", and when my Czech buddy asked me "You telling me this guy plays in the English Third Division?" I felt a small burst of pride - and **** me, I haven't said that often since 2012.

    Josh Magennis is my only ray of light in this grim season.

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  • Don't understand why he just doesn't play Konsa in midfield. He's tinkering with the team a bit too much for my liking. We're not a top 4 prem team Karl. Injury and suspension aside, pick your best XI and stick with it.

    THE "MANAGER" DOESN'T AND HAS NEVER PICKED THE TEAM SINCE POWELL WENT.

    HOW MANY MORE YEARS PEOPLE???!!!
  • Yeah, I said - I'm sorry, it was a comment born out of pique and I regret it. (The edit wasn't to avoid more flags! It was genuinely as a result of stepping back and reading what I'd written objectively.) It was intended as a personal swipe rather than an attack on CARD's entire protest, but I can see how it could be interpreted that way. I'll be genuinely curious to see what happens on the protest and hopeful that it'll have a positive effect.
  • edited February 2017
    I have no idea why @Leuth is getting such stick. His initial comment was perfectly reasonable and certainly didn't suggest anything perjorative about the S-T protests. Since I am going, I would be on his back, had he done so. Anyway the boss (AFKA) wants us back on track, but give Leuth a break, eh? There are many better targets for our displeasure after a 3-3 at Rochdale, although personally I'd have taken the point at 14.59.
  • Rob7Lee said:

    Yet again he's digging out some players, anyone care to guess which one's? Moral is going to be rock bottom, this could be dangerous if he loses the dressing room.

    He's said not for the first time about peoples dedication, in one sentence he mentions rather having an average player giving 100% than a skilful player just doing enough, and makes mention of the Arsenal Loanee's attitude (when we scored).

    I think if he's here in the summer they'll be an even bigger clearcut than most of us fear.

    1. Declan Rudd - Will go
    2. Lewis Page - Remain
    3. Adam Chicken - Remain
    4. Johnnie Jackson - Will go (sadly, the end is nigh)
    5. Patrick Bauer - Will go
    6. Roger Johnson - Will go (please please please)
    7. Tony Watt - Will go
    8. Andrew Crofts - Might stay I think, one more year.
    9. Josh Magennis -Will go
    11. Ricky Holmes - Will go
    12. Stephy Mavididi (will go back
    13. Dillon Phillips -Remain
    14. Jordan Botaka - Will go
    15. Ezri Konsa - Will go
    16. Jason Pearce - Remain
    17. Fredrik Ulvestad - Will go
    18. Karlan Ahearne-Grant - Will go
    19. Jake Forster-Caskey - Remain
    20. Chris Solly - Remain
    21. Nathan Byrne - Will go
    25. Ahmed Kasha - Gone
    26. Harry Lennon - Will go
    27. Dimitar Bitov - Will go
    30. Lee Novak - Will go
    32. Joe Aribo - Remain
    35. George Lapse - Remain
    36. Jay Dasilva - Will go
    42. Jordan Beeney - Will go
    50. Jorge Teixeira - Will Go

    I think thats how depleted a base we will be starting from.

    Karl Robinson - Will Go if not already gone.
  • Must agree boggy all the managers we have had under Roland must do as they are told.
  • Chizz said:

    Leuth said:

    Leuth said:

    And when it no longer matters, when the play offs are out of sight we will go on a little run.

    And all will be well, the future will be bright and we'll be told to renew our season tickets, get behind the team and wait to see how wonderful the rebuilt squad will be in August.

    And some will buy the lies again, just like before.

    That is how Powell began tbf
    Even if Robinson equals Powell, Meire doesn't equal Varney. There was a huge back office effort to build that promotion squad. It wasn't just the manager.
    I do hope the forthcoming Belgium protests focus on Meire's incompetence and the absolute unacceptability of a club like Charlton to be in League One without making uncompromising efforts to get out of it. CARD have had their uses so far - this season, contrary to popular opinion, has been much more competently-run than the three previous, perhaps in part due to visible dissent - but the pressure group has to focus its efforts on the areas that can be altered without potentially catastrophic fallout (such as RD selling to an even worse owner, which is imo distinctly possible). A proper CEO who understands what we need in a squad-building sense would be the single biggest step in the right direction.
    We were dumped out of the cups at an early stage; we won't be promoted (remember, the "sole aim is to be fighting for promotion"); our best, brightest, most exciting young player has been sold; the squad is too thin and of too poor quality (remember, "our top priority is to put together a squad that can help Charlton Athletic get back into the Championship"); the manager recruited at the start of the season was sacked before December; the caretaker manager who had a brilliant record was immediately replaced; the CEO continued making PR gaffs (including the reprehensible appearance on TalkSport); she was lambasted in the country's highest-selling newspaper; season ticket sales have fallen off a cliff (remember, "our fans are integral to the success of this club") and the owner didn't plug the hot water in.

    You're saying that this season has been "much more competently run than the three previous" seasons. While that's measuring against a preposterously low base, I can't see anything they've done that could be regarded as competent.

    What specific things make you say that the club is "much more competently run" this season? And I mean more than "the North Stand hasn't burned down yet", "we haven't gone into receivership" or "it turns out all the players we have signed this season actually exist".
    @Leuth ?
  • @Leuth Major @seriously_red et al. They NEVER answers these questions. Major in fact ran off instead of debating properly with @Grapevine49

    Silly really. Keyboard vendettas.
  • supaclive said:

    @Leuth Major @seriously_red et al. They NEVER answers these questions. Major in fact ran off instead of debating properly with @Grapevine49

    Silly really. Keyboard vendettas.

    Leuth really shouldn't be bracketed with those two characters.

    Probably true, but he won't answer the post as the facts don't lie...
  • @Grapevine49 is the best poster on CL by ________________________ that far, and I read his every word with absolute deadly seriousness - his anti-regime posting is essentially what I take to be the ideal anti-regime line. Even while acknowledging its truth, though, I feel he always leaves space for redemption or compromise - in skewering so accurately what the regime are doing wrong, he lays out the perfect routemap to improvement. We need his sort as CEO with great urgency. He is able to sort the precisely-targeted complaints from the noisy 'f**k 'em all, everyone out, I hate Charlton now' chaff.

    @Chizz, this season is more competently-run, in chief, because I believe we've made a good managerial appointment for perhaps the first time under RD, we've come closer to signing a league-appropriate squad than at any other time under RD, we've employed appropriate scouting methods (as opposed to whatever the hell we were doing before), we've shown less of a reliance on the network and we've probably broken even (yes, we won't find a Lookman every time, but stability is IMO underrated).
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