The groundsmen probably did everything they could given the resources at their disposal - but the club failed by fitting under soil pipes but not the boiler. If I recall correctly the intention was to put pipes in so that when we made it back to the Premiership, where under soil heating is mandatory, we would just have needed to add a boiler. What Les Branleurs Belgique fail to understand is that aspirations to be in the Premiership are required *before* you get there. Clubs that punch above their weight get promoted, those that work hard stay in that division, and the mediocre ones who just get by are the ones who get relegated. The lack of a boiler is a symptom of Belgian mediocrity at its worst.
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
“Of course I can understand their frustration and they have every right to be [frustrated],” she said. “But I hope they understand the owner wants the best for Charlton. He does it his way and they need to accept that."
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
My view on many issues with the owners is they are overblown and so whilst not at all happy with them I do not think that everything they do is wrong.
Your summary of the situation above is perfectly correct. However I was livid yesterday morning as this affected my plans and was incompetence by the owners.
To make such a big song and dance about the investment in the pitch and then not actually bother to get heat into the system several days before when the infrastructure is there is inexcusable. They are running a football club and to not be able to stage a game unless there were truly exceptional circumstances is pathetic and incompetent.
For them to continue to shoot themselves in the foot shows they are not competent to run any organisation let alone one that thousands of supportes love and cherish.
KM and her cronies should hang their heads in shame on this particular episode.
How she can continue in her position is beyond me. She has no credibility and when questioned on this postponement at a future fans meeting we know she will not answer fully and truthfully.
Farce. Our game cancelled. Palace game goes ahead.
Let's be honest, Orient's match was also off and they are a much closer comparison. Small time with equally unambitious, clueless and disinterested owners.
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
My view on many issues with the owners is they are overblown and so whilst not at all happy with them I do not think that everything they do is wrong.
Your summary of the situation above is perfectly correct. However I was livid yesterday morning as this affected my plans and was incompetence by the owners.
To make such a big song and dance about the investment in the pitch and then not actually bother to get heat into the system several days before when the infrastructure is there is inexcusable. They are running a football club and to not be able to stage a game unless there were truly exceptional circumstances is pathetic and incompetent.
For them to continue to shoot themselves in the foot shows they are not competent to run any organisation let alone one that thousands of supportes love and cherish.
KM and her cronies should hang their heads in shame on this particular episode.
How she can continue in her position is beyond me. She has no credibility and when questioned on this postponement at a future fans meeting we know she will not answer fully and truthfully.
I genuinely fear for the future of our club.
The 10am pitch inspection was not arranged on Saturday morning. The club knew on Friday it was inspecting but clearly judged the risk so low as to not be worth forewarning fans - or it decided not to warn them. One or the other.
The groundsman now says the temperature had been getting down to minus six all week. I doubt it, but again if it was the match was never going to be played and the club would have known that (it didn't).
I'm convinced it wasn't a conspiracy, despite being told by a trusted third party at 7pm on Friday the club was trying to get the game off (which if nothing else underlines it was in doubt), but it was certainly a shambles.
Serious question - am I right in thinking that we've got all the pipes (or whatever they use) under the pitch ready to use and the only thing that's missing is the boiler?
Serious question - am I right in thinking that we've got all the pipes (or whatever they use) under the pitch ready to use and the only thing that's missing is the boiler?
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
So can we because Daisy said that we had no money worries..!!
To install the boiler when the pitch was being laid would have cost approx. £90k. Now how much would the club have lost yesterday?
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
So can we because Daisy said that we had no money worries..!!
To install the boiler when the pitch was being laid would have cost approx. £90k. Now how much would the club have lost yesterday?
They don't even need to install the boiler, AFAIK. They can presumably hire one.
I went to the Ebbsfleet game yesterday, and apart from the pitch being a bit slippery in places,otherwise it was perfectly fine. I genuinely don't understand how their surface could be playable, but the pitch at The Valley could not be made ready, given weather which has been fairly consistent in the last week or so. The situation was entirely predictable, wasn't it? I can appreciate that parts of the Valley pitch might be in shadow much more than the ground at Ebbsfleet, but is Charlton Athletic really at the stage where the ground maintenance is not as professional as a non league team less than 15 miles away? Just asking, because, forgive the pun, on the surface, it looks that way.
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
So can we because Daisy said that we had no money worries..!!
To install the boiler when the pitch was being laid would have cost approx. £90k. Now how much would the club have lost yesterday?
They don't even need to install the boiler, AFAIK. They can presumably hire one.
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
So can we because Daisy said that we had no money worries..!!
To install the boiler when the pitch was being laid would have cost approx. £90k. Now how much would the club have lost yesterday?
They don't even need to install the boiler, AFAIK. They can presumably hire one.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley. Yes thanks for that Roland , and all within 3 years ! Where will we be in another 3 years ?
I went to the Ebbsfleet game yesterday, and apart from the pitch being a bit slippery in places,otherwise it was perfectly fine. I genuinely don't understand how their surface could be playable, but the pitch at The Valley could not be made ready, given weather which has been fairly consistent in the last week or so. The situation was entirely predictable, wasn't it? I can appreciate that parts of the Valley pitch might be in shadow much more than the ground at Ebbsfleet, but is Charlton Athletic really at the stage where the ground maintenance is not as professional as a non league team less than 15 miles away? Just asking, because, forgive the pun, on the surface, it looks that way.
I think you've gotta take the groundman's word for it. You can't play matches on frozen pitches and most of the pitch would have been frozen (if not the area that may have been in sunshine). The issue is whether they could have, or should have used a boiler (either bought, or rented) to fill the infamous pipes with hot water. You'd think it would be a no brainer if you take into account the cost of cancelling and then rescheduling the fixture. It seems like the hire of a boiler would be just a few thousand pounds, although I suspect it would need to be left on for some time, not just the night before the match.
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
I went to Enfield v Grays yesterday, wtf can they stage a game and we cannot?
Combined Counties games, one in Hatton Cross was played.
Seriously, 12 pages of conspiracy theory over a called of fixture when others were also called off today? This site is getting more and more paranoid by the minute.
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
So can we because Daisy said that we had no money worries..!!
To install the boiler when the pitch was being laid would have cost approx. £90k. Now how much would the club have lost yesterday?
My guess is 20k for every thousand down on the gate. Will potentially arrive at a 40k loss.
For the people sticking up for the Belgians, I do not think you'd be so understanding if you were travelling 180 miles and experiencing this.
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what more do you want from a Saturday morning (-;
Orient's, Southend's, and Crawley's games were called off. The pattern there? Lower league games in the south east of England.
Palace game went ahead but they are in the Premier League and are therefore required, and can afford, to have under soil heating.
News flash... we are a lower league team based in the south east of England, just like Orient, Southend, and Crawley.
Our game being called off must be part of some ingenious conspiracy by the Belgian super villain currently plotting our demise though.
Your summary of the situation above is perfectly correct. However I was livid yesterday morning as this affected my plans and was incompetence by the owners.
To make such a big song and dance about the investment in the pitch and then not actually bother to get heat into the system several days before when the infrastructure is there is inexcusable. They are running a football club and to not be able to stage a game unless there were truly exceptional circumstances is pathetic and incompetent.
For them to continue to shoot themselves in the foot shows they are not competent to run any organisation let alone one that thousands of supportes love and cherish.
KM and her cronies should hang their heads in shame on this particular episode.
How she can continue in her position is beyond me. She has no credibility and when questioned on this postponement at a future fans meeting we know she will not answer fully and truthfully.
I genuinely fear for the future of our club.
The groundsman now says the temperature had been getting down to minus six all week. I doubt it, but again if it was the match was never going to be played and the club would have known that (it didn't).
I'm convinced it wasn't a conspiracy, despite being told by a trusted third party at 7pm on Friday the club was trying to get the game off (which if nothing else underlines it was in doubt), but it was certainly a shambles.
To install the boiler when the pitch was being laid would have cost approx. £90k. Now how much would the club have lost yesterday?
http://m.andrews-sykes.com/boilers/mobile-boilers/500kw-mobile-boiler/
Either option has it merits.
The problem here is that the despite having those options the club choose to do neither.
I genuinely don't understand how their surface could be playable, but the pitch at The Valley could not be made ready, given weather which has been fairly consistent in the last week or so. The situation was entirely predictable, wasn't it? I can appreciate that parts of the Valley pitch might be in shadow much more than the ground at Ebbsfleet, but is Charlton Athletic really at the stage where the ground maintenance is not as professional as a non league team less than 15 miles away?
Just asking, because, forgive the pun, on the surface, it looks that way.
They strap @BDL to the heavy roller.
If only meire read Charlton life she would now where to buy one
http://www.scunthorpetelegraph.co.uk/if-charlton-wanted-the-game-they-could-have-got-it-on-says-scunthorpe-chairman-peter-swann/story-30076370-detail/story.html
Yes thanks for that Roland , and all within 3 years ! Where will we be in another 3 years ?
The issue is whether they could have, or should have used a boiler (either bought, or rented) to fill the infamous pipes with hot water.
You'd think it would be a no brainer if you take into account the cost of cancelling and then rescheduling the fixture. It seems like the hire of a boiler would be just a few thousand pounds, although I suspect it would need to be left on for some time, not just the night before the match.
Combined Counties games, one in Hatton Cross was played.
For the people sticking up for the Belgians, I do not think you'd be so understanding if you were travelling 180 miles and experiencing this.