Absolute shit hole! Sorry if you live live there but proper gentrification will never happen..Too far out!
DLR and Crossrail have and will make a huge difference. DLR to Canary Wharf in 15 mins and Elizabeth Line to Bond Street in 21 and Lizzy Line to Canary Wharf in 7 minsmins I think. 14 mins to Liverpool Street.
Too far out it ain’t. When was the last time you were there ?
Absolute shit hole! Sorry if you live live there but proper gentrification will never happen..Too far out!
DLR and Crossrail have and will make a huge difference. DLR to Canary Wharf in 15 mins and Elizabeth Line to Bond Street in 21 and Lizzy Line to Canary Wharf in 7 minsmins I think.
Too far out it ain’t. When was the last time you were there ?
Absolute shit hole! Sorry if you live live there but proper gentrification will never happen..Too far out!
DLR and Crossrail have and will make a huge difference. DLR to Canary Wharf in 15 mins and Elizabeth Line to Bond Street in 21 and Lizzy Line to Canary Wharf in 7 minsmins I think.
Too far out it ain’t. When was the last time you were there ?
1984 I like to walk where I need to be.
Then your opinion is not worth posting is it.
It is because if I did not live where I do now I would probably be living in Woolwich or Plumstead!
So you havn’t visited a place in 34 years and feel empowered to have an opinion on what it’s like based upon the fact that you don’t live there but could if you didn’t live where you do live ?
Get yourself over to the Brexit thread. Lots of people spouting rubbish there too.
Absolute shit hole! Sorry if you live live there but proper gentrification will never happen..Too far out!
DLR and Crossrail have and will make a huge difference. DLR to Canary Wharf in 15 mins and Elizabeth Line to Bond Street in 21 and Lizzy Line to Canary Wharf in 7 minsmins I think.
Too far out it ain’t. When was the last time you were there ?
1984 I like to walk where I need to be.
I went to France in 1762. Place is a shithole and nobody spoke English.
Absolute shit hole! Sorry if you live live there but proper gentrification will never happen..Too far out!
DLR and Crossrail have and will make a huge difference. DLR to Canary Wharf in 15 mins and Elizabeth Line to Bond Street in 21 and Lizzy Line to Canary Wharf in 7 minsmins I think.
Too far out it ain’t. When was the last time you were there ?
1984 I like to walk where I need to be.
I went to France in 1762. Place is a shithole and nobody spoke English.
That’s a shame - I was there a couple of years later and the improvements made the place almost unrecognisable.
Absolute shit hole! Sorry if you live live there but proper gentrification will never happen..Too far out!
DLR and Crossrail have and will make a huge difference. DLR to Canary Wharf in 15 mins and Elizabeth Line to Bond Street in 21 and Lizzy Line to Canary Wharf in 7 minsmins I think.
Too far out it ain’t. When was the last time you were there ?
1984 I like to walk where I need to be.
I went to France in 1762. Place is a shithole and nobody spoke English.
Moved to Munich 6 years ago.... Live in city center in a flat twice the the size and half the price of being in Woolwich or Forest Hill....
Tricky commute to central London though I would imagine.
Woolwich too far out?? There was a recent attempt to re-zone the town from zone 4 to zones 3/4 but it was not allowed.
Of course SE18 is still very much a work-in-progress but things are on the march. And in any corner of Beresford Square there is more character than many a soulless Docklands hectare.
Do you have to visit a place before describing it as a shithole?
Yes and no.
The last time I saw the abject poverty in Mombassa was nearly 20 years ago - I can't imagine it's changed for the better in that time.
The last time I was in Woolwich was 20 years ago and it wasn't good - the last time I lived in the area was nearly 30 years ago and it was going downhill then, but during my childhood and teenage years it was a good place to live. However we are not talking about Africa, we are talking about a town within the capital city of the UK. The whole country has changed in the last 30 years - some for the better, and some for the worse. I would rather take the eye witness accounts of people who live there now as accurate than my recollection of 30 years ago.
Do you have to visit a place before describing it as a shithole?
Yes and no.
The last time I saw the abject poverty in Mombassa was nearly 20 years ago - I can't imagine it's changed for the better in that time.
The last time I was in Woolwich was 20 years ago and it wasn't good - the last time I lived in the area was nearly 30 years ago and it was going downhill then, but during my childhood and teenage years it was a good place to live. However we are not talking about Africa, we are talking about a town within the capital city of the UK. The whole country has changed in the last 30 years - some for the better, and some for the worse. I would rather take the eye witness accounts of people who live there now as accurate than my recollection of 30 years ago.
The trouble with living in SE London is people invariably insist on telling you it's a shithole despite probably never having been there or their last visit being thirty years ago. My own personal favourite is people telling me 'I'd never live here'.
I remember being told once by someone I worked with that there wasn't much to do in SE London and it didn't have much history. I gave them a brief five minute history/culture lecture about the area and they went a bit quiet.
It's always the ignorant who are desperate to share their ignorance.
Do you have to visit a place before describing it as a shithole?
Yes and no.
The last time I saw the abject poverty in Mombassa was nearly 20 years ago - I can't imagine it's changed for the better in that time.
The last time I was in Woolwich was 20 years ago and it wasn't good - the last time I lived in the area was nearly 30 years ago and it was going downhill then, but during my childhood and teenage years it was a good place to live. However we are not talking about Africa, we are talking about a town within the capital city of the UK. The whole country has changed in the last 30 years - some for the better, and some for the worse. I would rather take the eye witness accounts of people who live there now as accurate than my recollection of 30 years ago.
The trouble with living in SE London is people invariably insist on telling you it's a shithole despite probably never having been there or their last visit being thirty years ago. My own personal favourite is people telling me 'I'd never live here'.
I remember being told once by someone I worked with that there wasn't much to do in SE London and it didn't have much history. I gave them a brief five minute history/culture lecture about the area and they went a bit quiet.
It's always the ignorant who are desperate to share their ignorance.
No disagreement with any of that.
When people ask me where I'm from I proudly say 'born in Woolwich' and add if it's needed 'that's in saarff east London - the correct side of the river!'
How anyone can say SE London doesn't have much history is ignorance personified - to start with they should perhaps revisit a map - of the world!!
Absolute shit hole! Sorry if you live live there but proper gentrification will never happen..Too far out!
DLR and Crossrail have and will make a huge difference. DLR to Canary Wharf in 15 mins and Elizabeth Line to Bond Street in 21 and Lizzy Line to Canary Wharf in 7 minsmins I think.
Too far out it ain’t. When was the last time you were there ?
1984 I like to walk where I need to be.
I went to France in 1762. Place is a shithole and nobody spoke English.
Moved to Munich 6 years ago.... Live in city center in a flat twice the the size and half the price of being in Woolwich or Forest Hill....
Absolute shit hole! Sorry if you live live there but proper gentrification will never happen..Too far out!
DLR and Crossrail have and will make a huge difference. DLR to Canary Wharf in 15 mins and Elizabeth Line to Bond Street in 21 and Lizzy Line to Canary Wharf in 7 minsmins I think.
Too far out it ain’t. When was the last time you were there ?
1984 I like to walk where I need to be.
I went to France in 1762. Place is a shithole and nobody spoke English.
That’s a shame - I was there a couple of years later and the improvements made the place almost unrecognisable.
I hear they are even starting to replace the hole in the ground with proper bogs now.
Have any of the haters tried Public, open mike nights at The Equitable, Con Gusto, Viet Baguette??
Woolwich has changed a lot since I was a kid, and still has a way to go, but there’s plenty of new experiences and the DLR & especially Crossrail at the end of the year will make it even more accessible, just 8 minutes to Canary Wharf (work for me), 12 to Liverpool St and 20 to the West End.
The flats I grew up in in Simmons Road have been replaced by ones which look far better. The regeneration plans for the blocks at the front of the road and by the Station will only enhance it further.
Really like Public and the Equitable. Does the Equitable ever get busy though? All three times I've been there have been very quiet, twice on Saturday nights.
I took the family to Public on Saturday and, like the Model Market in Lewisham, I would recommend it very much. Loads of choice for food, three separate bars, a free soft play area for the kids (which is marshalled) and a very friendly atmosphere from punters and staff alike. We all had a great afternoon / evening.
Have any of the haters tried Public, open mike nights at The Equitable, Con Gusto, Viet Baguette??
Woolwich has changed a lot since I was a kid, and still has a way to go, but there’s plenty of new experiences and the DLR & especially Crossrail at the end of the year will make it even more accessible, just 8 minutes to Canary Wharf (work for me), 12 to Liverpool St and 20 to the West End.
The flats I grew up in in Simmons Road have been replaced by ones which look far better. The regeneration plans for the blocks at the front of the road and by the Station will only enhance it further.
That's not to mention the taproom,blue nile, KK's Grill, Dial arch. I've purposefully left out the new steakyard following a review on here yesterday, so I will give it a bit longer before making a final judgement but overall there is plenty to enjoy, and even some of the old haunts are still worth a shout.
As you say the regeneration looks likely to help the place out. There is so much to look forward to, the spray st quarter will be massive. British land have recently thrown an obscene amount of money at the retail properties along the high street. New gym,cinema,schools,homes, hotels, A multi-million pound art hub in the Arsenal, it's all going on. The riverside developments are coming along quickly whilst the Berkeley land grab may not be popular with everyone it has to be said that it looks impressive so far. Those newer units may incorporate more bars and restaurants on the ground levels too. The Thames pathway along towards Charlton is currently being done so that a path is cleared to enable pedestrians to pass right through to Thames side studios, if you like that sort of thing. If not there are a couple of brilliant little cafes there.
And all of that in a place with DLR,National rail,Clipper,Buses that venture to all corners and as you say forthcoming Elizabeth line. Surely there are not many better connected parts of London.
Have any of the haters tried Public, open mike nights at The Equitable, Con Gusto, Viet Baguette??
Woolwich has changed a lot since I was a kid, and still has a way to go, but there’s plenty of new experiences and the DLR & especially Crossrail at the end of the year will make it even more accessible, just 8 minutes to Canary Wharf (work for me), 12 to Liverpool St and 20 to the West End.
The flats I grew up in in Simmons Road have been replaced by ones which look far better. The regeneration plans for the blocks at the front of the road and by the Station will only enhance it further.
That's not to mention the taproom,blue nile, KK's Grill, Dial arch. I've purposefully left out the new steakyard following a review on here yesterday, so I will give it a bit longer before making a final judgement but overall there is plenty to enjoy, and even some of the old haunts are still worth a shout.
As you say the regeneration looks likely to help the place out. There is so much to look forward to, the spray st quarter will be massive. British land have recently thrown an obscene amount of money at the retail properties along the high street. New gym,cinema,schools,homes, hotels, A multi-million pound art hub in the Arsenal, it's all going on. The riverside developments are coming along quickly whilst the Berkeley land grab may not be popular with everyone it has to be said that it looks impressive so far. Those newer units may incorporate more bars and restaurants on the ground levels too. The Thames pathway along towards Charlton is currently being done so that a path is cleared to enable pedestrians to pass right through to Thames side studios, if you like that sort of thing. If not there are a couple of brilliant little cafes there.
And all of that in a place with DLR,National rail,Clipper,Buses that venture to all corners and as you say forthcoming Elizabeth line. Surely there are not many better connected parts of London.
Really like Public and the Equitable. Does the Equitable ever get busy though? All three times I've been there have been very quiet, twice on Saturday nights.
Popped in on the day of the Rotherham game. It's perfect for a pre match drink, if you really like your own company that is. Two other people in there and one of those was the bloke behind the bar.
Do you have to visit a place before describing it as a shithole?
No, usually there is a sign outside that gives you a clue before you visit it...such as ‘Toilet’ or whether the facility is designated for use by men or women...hope that helps
I've just bought a place in Thamesmead West (much closer to Plumstead and Woolwich, than actual Thamesmead itself), so have been spending some time in the area.
Woolwich is definitely on the up. When that Crossrail comes in you will see a completely different town, which many would love to live in.
I've just bought a place in Thamesmead West (much closer to Plumstead and Woolwich, than actual Thamesmead itself), so have been spending some time in the area.
Woolwich is definitely on the up. When that Crossrail comes in you will see a completely different town, which many would love to live in.
Woolwich has been run down for a long time and it's good to see investment coming into the area. The only trouble is as with many areas is that this will not benefit everyone.
I like Woolwich(I realise I'm in a minority) and hope that the area thrives.
I've just bought a place in Thamesmead West (much closer to Plumstead and Woolwich, than actual Thamesmead itself), so have been spending some time in the area.
Woolwich is definitely on the up. When that Crossrail comes in you will see a completely different town, which many would love to live in.
So you managed to finally snag one then! Well done.
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Too far out it ain’t.
When was the last time you were there ?
Get yourself over to the Brexit thread. Lots of people spouting rubbish there too.
Woolwich too far out?? There was a recent attempt to re-zone the town from zone 4 to zones 3/4 but it was not allowed.
Of course SE18 is still very much a work-in-progress but things are on the march. And in any corner of Beresford Square there is more character than many a soulless Docklands hectare.
Coolwich lives!!
The last time I saw the abject poverty in Mombassa was nearly 20 years ago - I can't imagine it's changed for the better in that time.
The last time I was in Woolwich was 20 years ago and it wasn't good - the last time I lived in the area was nearly 30 years ago and it was going downhill then, but during my childhood and teenage years it was a good place to live. However we are not talking about Africa, we are talking about a town within the capital city of the UK. The whole country has changed in the last 30 years - some for the better, and some for the worse. I would rather take the eye witness accounts of people who live there now as accurate than my recollection of 30 years ago.
I remember being told once by someone I worked with that there wasn't much to do in SE London and it didn't have much history. I gave them a brief five minute history/culture lecture about the area and they went a bit quiet.
It's always the ignorant who are desperate to share their ignorance.
When people ask me where I'm from I proudly say 'born in Woolwich' and add if it's needed 'that's in saarff east London - the correct side of the river!'
How anyone can say SE London doesn't have much history is ignorance personified - to start with they should perhaps revisit a map - of the world!!
Woolwich has changed a lot since I was a kid, and still has a way to go, but there’s plenty of new experiences and the DLR & especially Crossrail at the end of the year will make it even more accessible, just 8 minutes to Canary Wharf (work for me), 12 to Liverpool St and 20 to the West End.
The flats I grew up in in Simmons Road have been replaced by ones which look far better. The regeneration plans for the blocks at the front of the road and by the Station will only enhance it further.
The Equitable is probably my favourite pub this side of Greenwich
As you say the regeneration looks likely to help the place out. There is so much to look forward to, the spray st quarter will be massive.
British land have recently thrown an obscene amount of money at the retail properties along the high street. New gym,cinema,schools,homes, hotels, A multi-million pound art hub in the Arsenal, it's all going on.
The riverside developments are coming along quickly whilst the Berkeley land grab may not be popular with everyone it has to be said that it looks impressive so far. Those newer units may incorporate more bars and restaurants on the ground levels too.
The Thames pathway along towards Charlton is currently being done so that a path is cleared to enable pedestrians to pass right through to Thames side studios, if you like that sort of thing. If not there are a couple of brilliant little cafes there.
And all of that in a place with DLR,National rail,Clipper,Buses that venture to all corners and as you say forthcoming Elizabeth line.
Surely there are not many better connected parts of London.
Very handy though.
Woolwich is definitely on the up. When that Crossrail comes in you will see a completely different town, which many would love to live in.
I like Woolwich(I realise I'm in a minority) and hope that the area thrives.