For those that went,would you say we are twisting his arm on a similar level to that of the Standard Liege fans?
Just wondered if you got any insight as to what tipped him over the edge then?
Thats on the agenda for my meeting with the Standard Socios in Liege on Sunday evening. And not just what tipped him over the edge, but how he looked to get his money back and where it went. We are working with them in trying to understand the Staprix accounts. Thanks to @The Red Robin for the reminder about third party ownership, that will be on the agenda too.
We all want him out, but we have to be prepared for it to be financially ugly.
"A normal human being can enjoy a good mental and physical health until he is 75. This means I have some 350 weeks to go. Life quality and happiness are key to me. The situation was a complicated one as the fans don't like me. So I looked for a proper solution. I found one with Bruno Venanzi"
For those that went,would you say we are twisting his arm on a similar level to that of the Standard Liege fans?
Just wondered if you got any insight as to what tipped him over the edge then?
Thats on the agenda for my meeting with the Standard Socios in Liege on Sunday evening. And not just what tipped him over the edge, but how he looked to get his money back and where it went. We are working with them in trying to understand the Staprix accounts. Thanks to @The Red Robin for the reminder about third party ownership, that will be on the agenda too.
We all want him out, but we have to be prepared for it to be financially ugly.
"A normal human being can enjoy a good mental and physical health until he is 75. This means I have some 350 weeks to go. Life quality and happiness are key to me. The situation was a complicated one as the fans don't like me. So I looked for a proper solution. I found one with Bruno Venanzi"
So why the fuck is he still here?!!
Being in another country has allowed him to shield himself from the protests - The realisation that we are targetting him can't do any harm.
For those that went,would you say we are twisting his arm on a similar level to that of the Standard Liege fans?
Just wondered if you got any insight as to what tipped him over the edge then?
Thats on the agenda for my meeting with the Standard Socios in Liege on Sunday evening. And not just what tipped him over the edge, but how he looked to get his money back and where it went. We are working with them in trying to understand the Staprix accounts. Thanks to @The Red Robin for the reminder about third party ownership, that will be on the agenda too.
We all want him out, but we have to be prepared for it to be financially ugly.
I think the third party ownership route is an intriguing one with Duchatelet. It can't just be that one player.
BTW police were fine and seemed more worried we'd be in town o Friday when Brugge are playing STVV.
They even gave one car an escort and then left after taking passport details from one of us and all the car regs. Orders from their boss they said. I assume that is the chief inspector and not Roland but who knows?
One other thing. One the Duchatelet snatch squad started off by pretending he was a local journalist. He even had a film camera and showed the taxi where to park but then suddenly he was snatching presents - very odd as we wanted to leave the presents anyway. He and his colleagues didn't have names either. Or at least not yet.
Quick update on this
The guy who snatched the presents was Peter Onkelinx (Stayen Complex manager) assisted by Stan Niesen (Commercial Director for STVV). Peter did tell me his forename but Stan wouldn't give me any name at all as he said he wasn't important. Odd that a commercial director isn't important but this is a company owned by Roland.
They weren't nasty or violent, just a bit rude and confused. They agreed to let us take photos and then suddenly changed their minds and snatched the presents away.
So if you want your presents Duchatelet then ask Pete (on right) and Stan. I'm sure they have kept them for you
If anyone sees any decent coverage on English papers/websites in the coming days please let me know. I want to do an English to Chinese translation and post it on some Chinese football forums and social media sites. I translated a very good piece about our situation (thanks to whoever shared the link on here) earlier this year, posted it on a Chinese football forum and it got a lot of positive feedback. Translation takes quite a lot of time so I rarely do it these days but this story is just too good to miss. I really want football fans here to know what a great club we are and what amazing fans we have. I've been doing updates on this Belgium tour in the past three days using my Charlton news account on Weibo.com but I feel they're probably not enough.
If we are ever acquired by any worthwhile owners they would do well to contract you as a marketer into the Chinese market. Keep up the good work Jessie.
BTW police were fine and seemed more worried we'd be in town o Friday when Brugge are playing STVV.
They even gave one car an escort and then left after taking passport details from one of us and all the car regs. Orders from their boss they said. I assume that is the chief inspector and not Roland but who knows?
One other thing. One the Duchatelet snatch squad started off by pretending he was a local journalist. He even had a film camera and showed the taxi where to park but then suddenly he was snatching presents - very odd as we wanted to leave the presents anyway. He and his colleagues didn't have names either. Or at least not yet.
Quick update on this
The guy who snatched the presents was Peter Onkelinx (Stayen Complex manager) assisted by Stan Niesen (Commercial Director for STVV). Peter did tell me his forename but Stan wouldn't give me any name at all as he said he wasn't important. Odd that a commercial director isn't important but this is a company owned by Roland.
They weren't nasty or violent, just a bit rude and confused. They agreed to let us take photos and then suddenly changed their minds and snatched the presents away.
So if you want your presents Duchatelet then ask Pete (on right) and Stan. I'm sure they have kept them for you
Here we can see Pete answering an important question, 'How long is Roland's knob?'
Additionally, @SE7toSG3 for the WW1 visits and education after the protests - under difficult personal circumstances
And also especially @fatpetergarland who owns and drives the taxi, gave up his time, and allowed his taxi to be used for this protest. A few people have asked how they can book the taxi - call Chris on 07956 456987
@MuttleyCAFC and his company Novo Print Limited who did a great job on the design and printing of our leaflets - and at a great price too. Hugely recommended.
All the CARD team for their input and support but especially: @Nug who designed the taxi wrap, the card, the DVD cover, made the dvd and a ton more; @Airman Brown and @Charlton Charlie for all the media and press planning and liaison.
Keith Levy at blackcab-advertising.com - not a Charlton fan but brilliantly supportive and helpful through the whole process.
Dvinyl who did a brilliant job actually applying the taxi wrap.
Everyone on here and social media for your support and helping to make Taxi for Roland a success.
Shouldn't he have said 'my friend and stooge Bruno Venanzi' or have I got that wrong?
It's a good question - weren't there suspicions that it wasn't a genuine sale just something to get the fans off his back?
There were, and also a modified version which says that Venanzi didn't have the money to pay RD so RD agreed deferred payments (at a suitable rate of interest, doubtless). It seems true that Venanzi has had to button regarding RD after some initial outburst when he first inspected the books, and this may be the reason.
All that said, the Socios seem convinced they have got shot of him and that Standard is in a much better place as a club. They are away on Sunday, unfortunately, (I would love to see a game there) but they are live on TV against Mechelen at 6, which we will watch before dinner and discussion. I hope I'll have the definitive answers, although the Staprix accounts (which the Trust has) do not give much detail away.
Meire effectively declared war (her word) on Charlton supporters who were not fully behind the regime. The events in Belgium have shown her to be a marginal, and rather insignificant figure in the 'war' and far from dictating events she has been left behind in her sinecure post once again to try to pick up the pieces of the disintegrating situation at the Club where we are now informed (if accurately reported) that we are a worse prospect for a managerial appointment than Mansfield Town (perhaps I should add the cliche no disrespect to Mansfield but we were in the Prem not so long ago for crying out loud!!!).
The Belgium trip by CARD (and 2%) may just have shaken RD out of his 1.5% Charlton lethargy. Thank you those that went to Belgium for such a great showing and that double-take by Duchatelet is worth a thousand words and will live in the memory.
I was at a lock in in a bar in St Truiden at about 3:30 am.
People dancing on tables etc, really loud party atmosphere.
I sat down for just two minutes to reply to some texts and then the music cut out.
I looked up to where the barman had his laptop for the music, and he was staring at me.
Then he pressed play and probably the most surreal thing that has ever happened to me occurred.
The music that came out of the speakers included tunes such as "Wanky, wanky, wanky Millwall", "Build a bonfire, put the Palace on the top", "You dirty northern bastards", "the Orient Family" and "VFR".
Where they found this, I have no idea - the locals were loving it.
I was so drunk I could hardly work out what was happening and it wasn't until the next day that I realised how funny it was.
I was at a lock in in a bar in St Truiden at about 3:30 am.
People dancing on tables etc, really loud party atmosphere.
I sat down for just two minutes to reply to some texts and then the music cut out.
I looked up to where the barman had his laptop for the music, and he was staring at me.
Then he pressed play and probably the most surreal thing that has ever happened to me occurred.
The music that came out of the speakers included tunes such as "Wanky, wanky, wanky Millwall", "Build a bonfire, put the Palace on the top", "You dirty northern bastards", "the Orient Family" and "VFR".
Where they found this, I have no idea - the locals were loving it.
I was so drunk I could hardly work out what was happening and it wasn't until the next day that I realised how funny it was.
I was at a lock in in a bar in St Truiden at about 3:30 am.
People dancing on tables etc, really loud party atmosphere.
I sat down for just two minutes to reply to some texts and then the music cut out.
I looked up to where the barman had his laptop for the music, and he was staring at me.
Then he pressed play and probably the most surreal thing that has ever happened to me occurred.
The music that came out of the speakers included tunes such as "Wanky, wanky, wanky Millwall", "Build a bonfire, put the Palace on the top", "You dirty northern bastards", "the Orient Family" and "VFR".
Where they found this, I have no idea - the locals were loving it.
I was so drunk I could hardly work out what was happening and it wasn't until the next day that I realised how funny it was.
Just seen the video of banner outside restaurant with Roland looking uncomfortable. Why on earth didn't anyone go in and have a rant at the. I could not have resisted telling him to Sell our Club, Sack Liar and that he was an utter failure at Charlton and Politics. Blimey missed opportunity or what !
Just seen the video of banner outside restaurant with Roland looking uncomfortable. Why on earth didn't anyone go in and have a rant at the. I could not have resisted telling him to Sell our Club, Sack Liar and that he was an utter failure at Charlton and Politics. Blimey missed opportunity or what !
Explained before by those that were there I believe
but they got it spot on by not going in and creating a scene inside which RD would probably have exploited to his advantage. I hear what you say but the subsequent reporting and the video have proved beyond doubt that the whole event was a masterstoke leaving RD defenceless hence his weird attempted deflection to turn the protest into some kind of sexist criticism of Meire.!
The man is bereft of commonsense and (pure assumption here) is I suspect a rather unpleasant character behind the scenes despite the bonhomie he likes to project.
Just seen the video of banner outside restaurant with Roland looking uncomfortable. Why on earth didn't anyone go in and have a rant at the. I could not have resisted telling him to Sell our Club, Sack Liar and that he was an utter failure at Charlton and Politics. Blimey missed opportunity or what !
and then he would have texted Jim White and instead of us having a win on our hands he would have said fans entered the restaurant, shouted at him, maybe verbally abused him and then we would have lost the sympathy we have instead gained. Nothing to be achieved by confrontation in my opinion.
I have tried to reflect on this excursion and simplify a pretty fulsome experience to things that might inform the situation we find ourselves in.
It is a given that the taxi group followed the 2percent group, and that everybody in both groups was trying their best to influence things for the betterment of Charlton Athletic. And from my own experience those in the taxi group were to a man and woman totally dedicated to 'the cause' first and foremost, they were an awesome bunch.
So what are my first hand impressions?
One part of the mood music I experienced in St Truiden itself, and I must have interacted with about 50 local people in the street, the bat, the taxi and the hotel is that Roland is all about money...this was stated absolutely consistently.
However there was also a conundrum in that Roland was also seen as scrooge like. Both with his ownership of St Truiden, but in personal ways like driving an old banger, or not buying decent clothes. So the question remained well what does he want the money for?
One theory is that nobody understands, he is unfathomable, and probably a rich nutcase.
However two angles were put to me. One was that his wife is a pretty well known and influential figure around the place, information that people volunteered and that I didn't need to deduce. Maybe one answer as to why Roland is so acquisitive is the influence of Mrs Duchatelet in all this, maybe it isn't just about what he want's but also somehow what she wants.
The other angle was put to me by a Belgian man in a cafe. This guy interrupted proceedings and insisted on buying a group of us coffees. He was an ex-footballer but had spent most of his life as a school sports teacher. The money he suggested was simply about having power for the sake of power, that control is seductive and compelling to Mr Duchatelet.
I will leave it to others to decide if those impressions can help focus on how to unseat Mr Duchatelet.
Another major impression I certainly felt was the sheer influence and presence Mr Duchatelet has there.
Very friendly police visited us in the square twice. Firstly to suss out what was going on, and then they shortly returned and actually asked 'when are you going to deliver the presents to Mr Duchatelet'. We said in about ten minutes. The people at the stadium were certainly prepared for our arrival
I was in the second vehicle to arrive at the stadium (the taxi) and it was quite a full on experience which would take too long to cover completely.
However some things are true in terms of my first hand experiences and what i made of them. The people working in the vicinity of the ground were on edge. The wanted to control the space, suggesting nearly everywhere was private property (the pavement even), we couldn't park, the police were on their way, the hotel was full, we should go. This was expressed in the clumsy context of pathetic attempts to deceive, pretend filming to identify us and especially lies. The bloke I had most to do with was cool about accepting he was frequently lying. I felt pretty annoyed by him.
However in my encounters with him he said everybody was happy with Duchatelet in St Truiden, and denied with a 'no no no' that Duchatelet hated us, but offered the opinion that the problems were created by the players not Mr Duchatelet. He (like others back in town) was aware of Thomas Dreisen too. When I said to him it wasn't going to stop (the protests) and that we would be back, and keep it all up, he seemed a bit annoyed about that.
I suppose all this adds up to a sense of scurrying reaction from some Duchatelet loyal locals, and meant they were fully aware we were around and they didn't like it.
This sense was mirrored the next morning at Melexis when two employees came out to debate the degree to which Mr Duchatelet was involved with the company (a lot of half truths here, and equivocation), but they really didn't like us pitching up and wanted us gone. They were very exercised in trying to persuade us how distant Mr Duchatelet was from their company.
Being out there I only have a vague idea of how it was impacting in a wider sense, but seeing immediate coverage in the Belgian media suggested to me that things we were doing were thought to be newsworthy.
As I say this is part of the story told from the perspective of one of the people who went, but I have tried to make it similar to a reportage and will leave it to others to extrapolate what they will from it.
If the poor fellow cant even go out and enjoy a nice family meal out then i think this time cards overstepped the mark invading his personal space !! Ha good hes ruined our lives enough
I have tried to reflect on this excursion and simplify a pretty fulsome experience to things that might inform the situation we find ourselves in.
It is a given that the taxi group followed the 2percent group, and that everybody in both groups was trying their best to influence things for the betterment of Charlton Athletic. And from my own experience those in the taxi group were to a man and woman totally dedicated to 'the cause' first and foremost, they were an awesome bunch.
So what are my first hand impressions?
One part of the mood music I experienced in St Truiden itself, and I must have interacted with about 50 local people in the street, the bat, the taxi and the hotel is that Roland is all about money...this was stated absolutely consistently.
However there was also a conundrum in that Roland was also seen as scrooge like. Both with his ownership of St Truiden, but in personal ways like driving an old banger, or not buying decent clothes. So the question remained well what does he want the money for?
One theory is that nobody understands, he is unfathomable, and probably a rich nutcase.
However two angles were put to me. One was that his wife is a pretty well known and influential figure around the place, information that people volunteered and that I didn't need to deduce. Maybe one answer as to why Roland is so acquisitive is the influence of Mrs Duchatelet in all this, maybe it isn't just about what he want's but also somehow what she wants.
The other angle was put to me by a Belgian man in a cafe. This guy interrupted proceedings and insisted on buying a group of us coffees. He was an ex-footballer but had spent most of his life as a school sports teacher. The money he suggested was simply about having power for the sake of power, that control is seductive and compelling to Mr Duchatelet.
I will leave it to others to decide if those impressions can help focus on how to unseat Mr Duchatelet.
Another major impression I certainly felt was the sheer influence and presence Mr Duchatelet has there.
Very friendly police visited us in the square twice. Firstly to suss out what was going on, and then they shortly returned and actually asked 'when are you going to deliver the presents to Mr Duchatelet'. We said in about ten minutes. The people at the stadium were certainly prepared for our arrival
I was in the second vehicle to arrive at the stadium (the taxi) and it was quite a full on experience which would take too long to cover completely.
However some things are true in terms of my first hand experiences and what i made of them. The people working in the vicinity of the ground were on edge. The wanted to control the space, suggesting nearly everywhere was private property (the pavement even), we couldn't park, the police were on their way, the hotel was full, we should go. This was expressed in the clumsy context of pathetic attempts to deceive, pretend filming to identify us and especially lies. The bloke I had most to do with was cool about accepting he was frequently lying. I felt pretty annoyed by him.
However in my encounters with him he said everybody was happy with Duchatelet in St Truiden, and denied with a 'no no no' that Duchatelet hated us, but offered the opinion that the problems were created by the players not Mr Duchatelet. He (like others back in town) was aware of Thomas Dreisen too. When I said to him it wasn't going to stop (the protests) and that we would be back, and keep it all up, he seemed a bit annoyed about that.
I suppose all this adds up to a sense of scurrying reaction from some Duchatelet loyal locals, and meant they were fully aware we were around and they didn't like it.
This sense was mirrored the next morning at Melexis when two employees came out to debate the degree to which Mr Duchatelet was involved with the company (a lot of half truths here, and equivocation), but they really didn't like us pitching up and wanted us gone. They were very exercised in trying to persuade us how distant Mr Duchatelet was from their company.
Being out there I only have a vague idea of how it was impacting in a wider sense, but seeing immediate coverage in the Belgian media suggested to me that things we were doing were thought to be newsworthy.
As I say this is part of the story told from the perspective of one of the people who went, but I have tried to make it similar to a reportage and will leave it to others to extrapolate what they will from it.
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We all want him out, but we have to be prepared for it to be financially ugly.
"A normal human being can enjoy a good mental and physical health until he is 75. This means I have some 350 weeks to go. Life quality and happiness are key to me. The situation was a complicated one as the fans don't like me. So I looked for a proper solution. I found one with Bruno Venanzi"
So why the fuck is he still here?!!
The guy who snatched the presents was Peter Onkelinx (Stayen Complex manager) assisted by Stan Niesen (Commercial Director for STVV). Peter did tell me his forename but Stan wouldn't give me any name at all as he said he wasn't important. Odd that a commercial director isn't important but this is a company owned by Roland.
They weren't nasty or violent, just a bit rude and confused. They agreed to let us take photos and then suddenly changed their minds and snatched the presents away.
So if you want your presents Duchatelet then ask Pete (on right) and Stan. I'm sure they have kept them for you
Firstly, all my fellow travellers: @Pico @Cardinal Sin @Addickted2TheReds @SE7toSG3 @Fanny Fanackapan @Arsenetatters @seth plum @Badger @charltonnick @Henry Irving @fatpetergarland - great job from a great team.
Additionally, @SE7toSG3 for the WW1 visits and education after the protests - under difficult personal circumstances
And also especially @fatpetergarland who owns and drives the taxi, gave up his time, and allowed his taxi to be used for this protest. A few people have asked how they can book the taxi - call Chris on 07956 456987
@MuttleyCAFC and his company Novo Print Limited who did a great job on the design and printing of our leaflets - and at a great price too. Hugely recommended.
All the CARD team for their input and support but especially: @Nug who designed the taxi wrap, the card, the DVD cover, made the dvd and a ton more; @Airman Brown and @Charlton Charlie for all the media and press planning and liaison.
Keith Levy at blackcab-advertising.com - not a Charlton fan but brilliantly supportive and helpful through the whole process.
Dvinyl who did a brilliant job actually applying the taxi wrap.
Everyone on here and social media for your support and helping to make Taxi for Roland a success.
http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/75348/jimmy-seed-stand-new-sign#latest
All that said, the Socios seem convinced they have got shot of him and that Standard is in a much better place as a club. They are away on Sunday, unfortunately, (I would love to see a game there) but they are live on TV against Mechelen at 6, which we will watch before dinner and discussion. I hope I'll have the definitive answers, although the Staprix accounts (which the Trust has) do not give much detail away.
matesha ha mates what was I thinking of ...one of his business aquaintancesMeire effectively declared war (her word) on Charlton supporters who were not fully behind the regime.
The events in Belgium have shown her to be a marginal, and rather insignificant figure in the 'war' and far from dictating events she has been left behind in her sinecure post once again to try to pick up the pieces of the disintegrating situation at the Club where we are now informed (if accurately reported) that we are a worse prospect for a managerial appointment than Mansfield Town (perhaps I should add the cliche no disrespect to Mansfield but we were in the Prem not so long ago for crying out loud!!!).
The Belgium trip by CARD (and 2%) may just have shaken RD out of his 1.5% Charlton lethargy.
Thank you those that went to Belgium for such a great showing and that double-take by Duchatelet is worth a thousand words and will live in the memory.
Onwards................
I was at a lock in in a bar in St Truiden at about 3:30 am.
People dancing on tables etc, really loud party atmosphere.
I sat down for just two minutes to reply to some texts and then the music cut out.
I looked up to where the barman had his laptop for the music, and he was staring at me.
Then he pressed play and probably the most surreal thing that has ever happened to me occurred.
The music that came out of the speakers included tunes such as "Wanky, wanky, wanky Millwall", "Build a bonfire, put the Palace on the top", "You dirty northern bastards", "the Orient Family" and "VFR".
Where they found this, I have no idea - the locals were loving it.
I was so drunk I could hardly work out what was happening and it wasn't until the next day that I realised how funny it was.
https://open.spotify.com/album/1iNauPVYV2MeWvdSDoZmcG
Great story though!
I remember the Andy Hunt song, too.
but they got it spot on by not going in and creating a scene inside which RD would probably have exploited to his advantage. I hear what you say but the subsequent reporting and the video have proved beyond doubt that the whole event was a masterstoke leaving RD defenceless hence his weird attempted deflection to turn the protest into some kind of sexist criticism of Meire.!
The man is bereft of commonsense and (pure assumption here) is I suspect a rather unpleasant character behind the scenes despite the bonhomie he likes to project.
It is a given that the taxi group followed the 2percent group, and that everybody in both groups was trying their best to influence things for the betterment of Charlton Athletic. And from my own experience those in the taxi group were to a man and woman totally dedicated to 'the cause' first and foremost, they were an awesome bunch.
So what are my first hand impressions?
One part of the mood music I experienced in St Truiden itself, and I must have interacted with about 50 local people in the street, the bat, the taxi and the hotel is that Roland is all about money...this was stated absolutely consistently.
However there was also a conundrum in that Roland was also seen as scrooge like. Both with his ownership of St Truiden, but in personal ways like driving an old banger, or not buying decent clothes. So the question remained well what does he want the money for?
One theory is that nobody understands, he is unfathomable, and probably a rich nutcase.
However two angles were put to me. One was that his wife is a pretty well known and influential figure around the place, information that people volunteered and that I didn't need to deduce. Maybe one answer as to why Roland is so acquisitive is the influence of Mrs Duchatelet in all this, maybe it isn't just about what he want's but also somehow what she wants.
The other angle was put to me by a Belgian man in a cafe. This guy interrupted proceedings and insisted on buying a group of us coffees. He was an ex-footballer but had spent most of his life as a school sports teacher. The money he suggested was simply about having power for the sake of power, that control is seductive and compelling to Mr Duchatelet.
I will leave it to others to decide if those impressions can help focus on how to unseat Mr Duchatelet.
Another major impression I certainly felt was the sheer influence and presence Mr Duchatelet has there.
Very friendly police visited us in the square twice. Firstly to suss out what was going on, and then they shortly returned and actually asked 'when are you going to deliver the presents to Mr Duchatelet'. We said in about ten minutes. The people at the stadium were certainly prepared for our arrival
I was in the second vehicle to arrive at the stadium (the taxi) and it was quite a full on experience which would take too long to cover completely.
However some things are true in terms of my first hand experiences and what i made of them. The people working in the vicinity of the ground were on edge. The wanted to control the space, suggesting nearly everywhere was private property (the pavement even), we couldn't park, the police were on their way, the hotel was full, we should go. This was expressed in the clumsy context of pathetic attempts to deceive, pretend filming to identify us and especially lies. The bloke I had most to do with was cool about accepting he was frequently lying. I felt pretty annoyed by him.
However in my encounters with him he said everybody was happy with Duchatelet in St Truiden, and denied with a 'no no no' that Duchatelet hated us, but offered the opinion that the problems were created by the players not Mr Duchatelet. He (like others back in town) was aware of Thomas Dreisen too. When I said to him it wasn't going to stop (the protests) and that we would be back, and keep it all up, he seemed a bit annoyed about that.
I suppose all this adds up to a sense of scurrying reaction from some Duchatelet loyal locals, and meant they were fully aware we were around and they didn't like it.
This sense was mirrored the next morning at Melexis when two employees came out to debate the degree to which Mr Duchatelet was involved with the company (a lot of half truths here, and equivocation), but they really didn't like us pitching up and wanted us gone. They were very exercised in trying to persuade us how distant Mr Duchatelet was from their company.
Being out there I only have a vague idea of how it was impacting in a wider sense, but seeing immediate coverage in the Belgian media suggested to me that things we were doing were thought to be newsworthy.
As I say this is part of the story told from the perspective of one of the people who went, but I have tried to make it similar to a reportage and will leave it to others to extrapolate what they will from it.
Ha good hes ruined our lives enough
Presumably, it's what they are, it's what validates them.
Thank you Seth.
Very informative. Brilliant work by the way.