So what was the song referred to in the interview, anyone know the words. Interesting he has relegated our big summer striking transfer to the bench then blames his players for missing lots of chances. As I said on anothe thread he has assured us he has full control over playing matters and our signings and has praised KM enough that on pitch performances have to be laid at his door IMO.
As some others have said, I'm not sure I would be happy to see him go. Despite his limitations, the state the football club is in now, he is as good as we're likely to get.
Negative? Absolutely, but the paucity of midfielders is likely the fault of the owner rather than RS. I think it was after the Welling game when he said he needed 5 or 6 in. Although I can't recall the exact numbers, from that date I think we may have brought in 4 or 5 players, but unloaded 7 or 8. The squad is grossly unbalanced with options up front and in defence, but a midfield that picks itself.
If we pick up a few long-term injuries along with suspensions, it could all go horribly wrong, but I would lay the blame at RD's door should that happen
Oh dear, sounds like he's just about tipping over the edge, a man with the experience he has, it's more than a few fans singing a few songs thats caused that. Maybe it's the thought of the email he'll get tomorrow from the network scout ;-)
Absolute shit mug of a manager. Your time is up now tosser do one.
We gotta be ruthless he says. We don't stick to the game. Well maybe that's because you sub all the better players off. Get out now, those comments are from a dead man walking. Goodbye.
Hardly an exclusive " @LouisMend upsets Charlton manager" Again!!
Louis wasn't exactly giving him the Paxman treatment though was he? No need for the snarky answers from Slade. He is the manager. EVERYTHING is his fault - good or bad. That's the job. If he doesn't like it, he should go and work in Sainsburys instead.
The outburst came after a brief introductory question. It was hardly after two hours of intense cross-examination.
but this is radio, I reckon @LouisMend had a couple of little pink piggies in his hand during the interview, that and the fact it made Big Russ realise he hadn't had a bacon sandwich for over 3 hours simply tipped him over the edge.
Very poor to dig out the fans who made the effort to travel. Seems like the pressure is getting to him. Lose on Saturday and he could be in big trouble.
Can't believe I think this but I'm up for losing to Gillingham just for the craic.
Was actually thinking the same!
Edit: I misread losing for 'going'. Going to watch us lose, that is!
Hardly an exclusive " @LouisMend upsets Charlton manager" Again!!
Louis wasn't exactly giving him the Paxman treatment though was he? No need for the snarky answers from Slade. He is the manager. EVERYTHING is his fault - good or bad. That's the job. If he doesn't like it, he should go and work in Sainsburys instead.
Or he could have been advised by the wrong people, who have been right in the past, so it's not his fault - or some such gibberish...
Under pressure no doubt as can probably hear Meire smashing out a "vote of confidence" statement on her keyboard for the OS. Still confident of a top 6 finish, top 6 budget for security, transition period, learnt from out mistake, good nut harvest this year, British experience, no that's not my photo on tinder, Rus has our full confidence, bla bla bla.
Blaming fans, blaming players...not really working together is it. On the edge, but what's the point of sacking him....let's focus on getting rid of Douchebag and Liar.
So Slade oversees the dropping of two points against a team we should have beaten, brought on primarily by him taking off all our attacking threats and inviting Port Vale onto us, and his response is first thing to have a go at the fans. He can absolutely do one. The amount of shit we put up with on a daily basis from this club, and his response to the travelling fans who have gone all that way on a Tuesday night is to publicly be a prick to them. Even Auntie Karel shied away from that, and he was basically the worst thing ever
First thing he does is he starts on Louis (again) and Louis hadn't hardly said anything.
WTF?
Anyway Slade says from the beginning 'it's my fault', trying to be sarcastic and somehow straight away associating Louis with fan criticism (how can that be true, he is a Palace fan ?).
Well Russell it is your fault, and the people who have betrayed you in terms of resources which you can take up with them. OK players miss chances and keepers make good saves, legislate for that man! Everybody knows 1-0 in a game playing away the other team will build up some kind of head of steam and get a good chance penalty or not, especially in this league. And if he doesn't know, hasn't he learned anything from the games so far?
Yes Russell it is your fault I'm afraid, and the quite remarkably high number of away fans who made the effort, and told you what they think, have every right to do so.
Can someone please remind me what this man has achieved in the game to be making comments like that?
Nothing.
He was the wrong appointment then, and he remains the wrong appointment. When looking for a quick return to the championship, you don't employ someone who has never won promotion in his managerial career.
It was a panic appointment because they threw all their eggs in Wilder's basket and didn't have a plan B.
Can someone please remind me what this man has achieved in the game to be making comments like that?
Lifted from Wiki:
Scarborough - a remarkable run of 39 points from the final 19 games of the season meant Scarborough finished 12th. He was hailed as a hero by the fans and his stock rose when taking the team to 4th position by Christmas in the 2002–03 season. In January 2003, two days after the club went into administration, Slade tendered his resignation. The fans presented a tearful Slade with a petition at the next game and on the Monday morning he changed his mind.
Grimsby - A mid-table finish ensued in the 2004–05 season but despite some disgruntled fans calling for his head, Grimsby spent most of the 2005–06 season in an automatic promotion spot in League Two, also managing to topple both Derby County and Tottenham Hotspur in the Football League Cup. Town eventually finished the season in 4th place and had to settle for the playoffs, following a late Northampton Town equaliser meant that Leyton Orient would finish the season in the final automatic promotion places. Despite guiding his team to a semi-final victory over local rivals Lincoln City, Slade was unable to secure promotion, Grimsby losing 1–0 in the final against Cheltenham Town in the Millennium Stadium.
Yeovil - Slade led Yeovil to a surprise 5th-place finish play-off finish in the league, where they defeated favourites Nottingham Forest to reach the play-off final. However, Yeovil lost the final against Blackpool 2–0. Slade's successful first season at Yeovil saw him win the League One manager of the year award Slade left his post at Yeovil on 16 February 2009, despite having won four consecutive matches immediately prior to this. Slade had become frustrated with the club's lack of ambition, although the club chairman John Fry had previously stated that changes would be needed due to the current economic climate
Brighton - On 6 March 2009, Slade was appointed manager of struggling Brighton & Hove Albion until the end of the season, and succeeded in ensuring they avoided relegation from League One. Slade signed a further two-year contract at Brighton in May 2009.
Orient - Slade was appointed manager of Leyton Orient on 5 April 2010, six matches before the end of the season. The club was in danger of being relegated from League One, but Slade revived the club's fortunes, helping Leyton Orient to take 10 points from their last six matches, resulting in them avoiding relegation by a single point. Slade was rewarded with a new two-year contract on 14 May and the following season he guided Orient to seventh place, one point outside the play-off places, as well as a fifth round replay at Arsenal in the FA Cup. During the season, Orient chairman Barry Hearn rejected an approach from Barnsley for Slade. Leyton Orient were unable to match their previous year during the 2011–12 season and the club finished in 20th, but the next season Slade was able to guide them to another 7th-place finish.
Cardiff - On 6 October 2014, Slade was appointed manager of Championship side Cardiff City on a two-year contract, replacing Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. The job was the highest level that Slade had ever managed at having never managed above the third tier in the Football League prior to his appointment. Slade was tasked with reducing the clubs wage bill which was still inflated due to their relegation from the Premier League in the previous season and saw seven first team players leave the club in his first 3 months in charge. Slade became unpopular with a large section of supporters and crowd numbers fell dramatically during his tenure at the club as he finished 11th in his first season and 8th in his second. Despite his detractors, Slade insisted that the club had made progress under his stewardship and that he had "given the club stability". On 6 May 2016, Slade was removed from his position of manager and was instead named the club's head of football. However, he resigned from the role on 3 June.
So he has had some success albeit short term in a number of cases. And it is clear that some of those fans have taken to him whereas he has upset others at times in equal measure.
The only thing I would say is getting him sacked is not going to culminate in getting someone in who will do/be able to do a better job - what decent manager will take the job under this regime and with such a potential backlash from the fans. I would defy anyone on here to name one credible candidate who would take this position.
So we will be back to another Roland manager - and how long will we be giving him? And forget about promotion - it might be more a case of free fall. Yes I am aware that we are currently only a point above the relegation zone (five points off the play offs with a game in hand) but the players do seem to be playing for Slade, notwithstanding his negative decision making. Will they do the same for a Luzon or a Freye?
He is a man under pressure, some of it admittedly caused by himself. But how many managers are having to cope (or could) in such circumstances? Tony Mowbray was one at Coventry and he walked away. I wouldn't be surprised if Slade doesn't do so too.
Either way it's a gamble. But as a betting man I'm really not certain that the next CAFC manger will be any better or have enough influence to galvanise a group of players, most of which are on short term contracts. And then history might repeat itself. Let's hope not.
I don't have a problem with his interview. His comments were honest about how he feels right after a game, and I agree with him that the team should have been out of site before the late penalty decision. I was there, and out of 250+ Charlton fans, probably 50 or so were singing 'you ain't got a clue' song. I didn't, nor did the majority of the away fans. Does it upset me that Slade then has a slight dig at the fans, even tho the majority were not involved? Certainly doesn't. Fans are becoming so, so precious about being called out, whether it be by Slade or Roger Johnson. If you can't take it, don't dish it out in the first place. What I did find disappointing about the interview was that he was not grilled on the substitution policy and how Slade thought that his subs would improve us winning that game. I think that is what the fans were most puzzled by, especially the Northern Ireland contingent behind me after Josh was subbed.
So Slade oversees the dropping of two points against a team we should have beaten, brought on primarily by him taking off all our attacking threats and inviting Port Vale onto us, and his response is first thing to have a go at the fans. He can absolutely do one. The amount of shit we put up with on a daily basis from this club, and his response to the travelling fans who have gone all that way on a Tuesday night is to publicly be a prick to them. Even Auntie Karel shied away from that, and he was basically the worst thing ever
Oi now who's sticking up for Karel we'll sort of anyway. Here have a Karel wink
First thing he does is he starts on Louis (again) and Louis hadn't hardly said anything.
WTF?
Anyway Slade says from the beginning 'it's my fault', trying to be sarcastic and somehow straight away associating Louis with fan criticism (how can that be true, he is a Palace fan ?).
Well Russell it is your fault, and the people who have betrayed you in terms of resources which you can take up with them. OK players miss chances and keepers make good saves, legislate for that man! Everybody knows 1-0 in a game playing away the other team will build up some kind of head of steam and get a good chance penalty or not, especially in this league. And if he doesn't know, hasn't he learned anything from the games so far?
Yes Russell it is your fault I'm afraid, and the quite remarkably high number of away fans who made the effort, and told you what they think, have every right to do so.
You said it Russell, it was your fault.
Just for the record I didn't feel anything was aimed at me this evening
I don't think it was the substitutions that made us lose the three points. We had some really easy chances to put away both before and after the substitutions. If anything it was just the sitting back on the lead, which we see, time and time again from out managers, it was one of CP's weaknesses too. One of the good points for me was that our players seemed really hungry to get the ball and were winning most 50/50 challenges, I haven't seen that in a while.
As for the angry chants, it was mostly from about a dozen, if that, tanked up fifty something blokes with really loud voices, the majority of the away support wanted to applaud the players for their effort.
Fans are becoming so, so precious about being called out, whether it be by Slade or Roger Johnson. If you can't take it, don't dish it out in the first place. .
I respect your opinion considering you saw it for yourself by attending the game tonight.
However, our fans have 'taken' absolutely everything that this club could throw at them in the last couple of years. I can't see how any set of fans wouldn't be frustrated at this point when the manager makes the same mistakes in a weak league over and over again - not to mention everything else going on at Charlton.
I didn't do a head count of who was singing the anti Slade song but it seemed a lot more than 50 to me furthermore irrespective of the fact we should have been out of sight you don't make a double sub that late in the game, do it one at a time if you must to run the clock down.
Fans are becoming so, so precious about being called out, whether it be by Slade or Roger Johnson. If you can't take it, don't dish it out in the first place. .
I respect your opinion considering you saw it for yourself by attending the game tonight.
However, our fans have 'taken' absolutely everything that this club could throw at them in the last couple of years. I can't see how any set of fans wouldn't be frustrated at this point when the manager makes the same mistakes in a weak league over and over again - not to mention everything else going on at Charlton.
I agree that mistakes are being made. I would like the team to be on the front foot throughout the game, not sitting back to protect a lead. But as Shrew addick has said, this is not a new phenomenom, many previous managers have been guilty of this. The 4-5-1 formation worked very well for most of the game, and as I have commented in the post match thread, there were other factors that led to the result.
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Russell Slade, he ain't got a clue
Negative? Absolutely, but the paucity of midfielders is likely the fault of the owner rather than RS. I think it was after the Welling game when he said he needed 5 or 6 in. Although I can't recall the exact numbers, from that date I think we may have brought in 4 or 5 players, but unloaded 7 or 8. The squad is grossly unbalanced with options up front and in defence, but a midfield that picks itself.
If we pick up a few long-term injuries along with suspensions, it could all go horribly wrong, but I would lay the blame at RD's door should that happen
Very unprofessional.
We gotta be ruthless he says. We don't stick to the game. Well maybe that's because you sub all the better players off. Get out now, those comments are from a dead man walking. Goodbye.
He has never won anything in the game which tells its own story.
Edit: I misread losing for 'going'. Going to watch us lose, that is!
Blaming fans, blaming players...not really working together is it. On the edge, but what's the point of sacking him....let's focus on getting rid of Douchebag and Liar.
WTF?
Anyway Slade says from the beginning 'it's my fault', trying to be sarcastic and somehow straight away associating Louis with fan criticism (how can that be true, he is a Palace fan
Well Russell it is your fault, and the people who have betrayed you in terms of resources which you can take up with them.
OK players miss chances and keepers make good saves, legislate for that man!
Everybody knows 1-0 in a game playing away the other team will build up some kind of head of steam and get a good chance penalty or not, especially in this league. And if he doesn't know, hasn't he learned anything from the games so far?
Yes Russell it is your fault I'm afraid, and the quite remarkably high number of away fans who made the effort, and told you what they think, have every right to do so.
You said it Russell, it was your fault.
He was the wrong appointment then, and he remains the wrong appointment. When looking for a quick return to the championship, you don't employ someone who has never won promotion in his managerial career.
It was a panic appointment because they threw all their eggs in Wilder's basket and didn't have a plan B.
Scarborough - a remarkable run of 39 points from the final 19 games of the season meant Scarborough finished 12th. He was hailed as a hero by the fans and his stock rose when taking the team to 4th position by Christmas in the 2002–03 season. In January 2003, two days after the club went into administration, Slade tendered his resignation. The fans presented a tearful Slade with a petition at the next game and on the Monday morning he changed his mind.
Grimsby - A mid-table finish ensued in the 2004–05 season but despite some disgruntled fans calling for his head, Grimsby spent most of the 2005–06 season in an automatic promotion spot in League Two, also managing to topple both Derby County and Tottenham Hotspur in the Football League Cup. Town eventually finished the season in 4th place and had to settle for the playoffs, following a late Northampton Town equaliser meant that Leyton Orient would finish the season in the final automatic promotion places. Despite guiding his team to a semi-final victory over local rivals Lincoln City, Slade was unable to secure promotion, Grimsby losing 1–0 in the final against Cheltenham Town in the Millennium Stadium.
Yeovil - Slade led Yeovil to a surprise 5th-place finish play-off finish in the league, where they defeated favourites Nottingham Forest to reach the play-off final. However, Yeovil lost the final against Blackpool 2–0. Slade's successful first season at Yeovil saw him win the League One manager of the year award Slade left his post at Yeovil on 16 February 2009, despite having won four consecutive matches immediately prior to this. Slade had become frustrated with the club's lack of ambition, although the club chairman John Fry had previously stated that changes would be needed due to the current economic climate
Brighton - On 6 March 2009, Slade was appointed manager of struggling Brighton & Hove Albion until the end of the season, and succeeded in ensuring they avoided relegation from League One. Slade signed a further two-year contract at Brighton in May 2009.
Orient - Slade was appointed manager of Leyton Orient on 5 April 2010, six matches before the end of the season. The club was in danger of being relegated from League One, but Slade revived the club's fortunes, helping Leyton Orient to take 10 points from their last six matches, resulting in them avoiding relegation by a single point. Slade was rewarded with a new two-year contract on 14 May and the following season he guided Orient to seventh place, one point outside the play-off places, as well as a fifth round replay at Arsenal in the FA Cup. During the season, Orient chairman Barry Hearn rejected an approach from Barnsley for Slade. Leyton Orient were unable to match their previous year during the 2011–12 season and the club finished in 20th, but the next season Slade was able to guide them to another 7th-place finish.
Cardiff - On 6 October 2014, Slade was appointed manager of Championship side Cardiff City on a two-year contract, replacing Ole Gunnar Solskjaer. The job was the highest level that Slade had ever managed at having never managed above the third tier in the Football League prior to his appointment. Slade was tasked with reducing the clubs wage bill which was still inflated due to their relegation from the Premier League in the previous season and saw seven first team players leave the club in his first 3 months in charge. Slade became unpopular with a large section of supporters and crowd numbers fell dramatically during his tenure at the club as he finished 11th in his first season and 8th in his second. Despite his detractors, Slade insisted that the club had made progress under his stewardship and that he had "given the club stability". On 6 May 2016, Slade was removed from his position of manager and was instead named the club's head of football. However, he resigned from the role on 3 June.
So he has had some success albeit short term in a number of cases. And it is clear that some of those fans have taken to him whereas he has upset others at times in equal measure.
The only thing I would say is getting him sacked is not going to culminate in getting someone in who will do/be able to do a better job - what decent manager will take the job under this regime and with such a potential backlash from the fans. I would defy anyone on here to name one credible candidate who would take this position.
So we will be back to another Roland manager - and how long will we be giving him? And forget about promotion - it might be more a case of free fall. Yes I am aware that we are currently only a point above the relegation zone (five points off the play offs with a game in hand) but the players do seem to be playing for Slade, notwithstanding his negative decision making. Will they do the same for a Luzon or a Freye?
He is a man under pressure, some of it admittedly caused by himself. But how many managers are having to cope (or could) in such circumstances? Tony Mowbray was one at Coventry and he walked away. I wouldn't be surprised if Slade doesn't do so too.
Either way it's a gamble. But as a betting man I'm really not certain that the next CAFC manger will be any better or have enough influence to galvanise a group of players, most of which are on short term contracts. And then history might repeat itself. Let's hope not.
What I did find disappointing about the interview was that he was not grilled on the substitution policy and how Slade thought that his subs would improve us winning that game. I think that is what the fans were most puzzled by, especially the Northern Ireland contingent behind me after Josh was subbed.
Tony Cahone is a Cnut and those that think he ain't are cnuts
In fact we have a whole load cnuts
As for the angry chants, it was mostly from about a dozen, if that, tanked up fifty something blokes with really loud voices, the majority of the away support wanted to applaud the players for their effort.
However, our fans have 'taken' absolutely everything that this club could throw at them in the last couple of years. I can't see how any set of fans wouldn't be frustrated at this point when the manager makes the same mistakes in a weak league over and over again - not to mention everything else going on at Charlton.