I can't believe that there are some implied threats of violence against your own fans if they have the temerity to exercise their right to protest in the ground.
Where do you draw the line? Somebody holding up a banner? A group starting the "Sell our club" song like hundreds did at Walsall"?
You can disagree with the protests, you can shout them down if you want but things getting "physical" is crossing the line. Paradoxically, I assume that these same people "gearing up for a challenge" would've be well up for a more "confrontational" protest movement at points last year.
Keep any protests outside of the Stadium, have some respect for fellow supporters who happen to not have the same view as you. There is a positive vibe inside the stadium and many supporters that want to build on that.
Keep any protests outside of the Stadium, have some respect for fellow supporters who happen to not have the same view as you. There is a positive vibe inside the stadium and many supporters that want to build on that.
What type of protests outside the ground would not hinder the experience of people who want to support team?
Any protests in the car park after the game would not hinder the enjoyment of the match for any supporters not wishing to take part in protests or have the game 'hindered' by protests
I can't believe that there are some implied threats of violence against your own fans if they have the temerity to exercise their right to protest in the ground.
Where do you draw the line? Somebody holding up a banner? A group starting the "Sell our club" song like hundreds did at Walsall"?
You can disagree with the protests, you can shout them down if you want but things getting "physical" is crossing the line. Paradoxically, I assume that these same people "gearing up for a challenge" would've be well up for a more "confrontational" protest movement at points last year.
You should also question the motives of people turning up to a game that have stated they would no longer go that is promoting families to come down"launch a major protest". If you don't agree with something do it elsewhere without spoiling other peoples enjoyment. It is clearly a threat and encouraging others to do so and it is very simple, if you are intentions is to go out and spoil fans days out don't just expect them to sit there, expect some sort of backlash.
Amazing what a couple of results against the likes of Walsall do to people!!!! Spectators that support the regime's destruction of CAFC in return for watching a football match could easily watch football elsewhere and allow the fans to protest in the Valley and so not ruin your enjoyment of football.
Keep any protests outside of the Stadium, have some respect for fellow supporters who happen to not have the same view as you. There is a positive vibe inside the stadium and many supporters that want to build on that.
What type of protests outside the ground would not hinder the experience of people who want to support team?
Do what you want fans who support the team and pushing them for promotion don't want your toxic atmosphere in the ground. They don't want the game to be held up. Your decision,
I'd hope that CARD will use such games to launch major protests and encourage as many fans as possible to come along and give the regime grief. Giving them a fiver is money well spent if we can make their lives difficult for the day.
So how would you feel if it went bandy at the game with that sort of attitude to turn up at a game to launch a major protest after the team is performing well and even the players are saying how the atmosphere has changed. If you don't like whats going on don't come, if you want to turn up to protest and spoil other peoples entertainment expect a backlash and a big one at that.
Whatever
Sums you comment up with the response of "Whatever". It's clowns like you that start trouble and are the first to go hiding behind the nearest copper.
Looks like you gearing up to challenge the protestors physically?
There are many fans "gearing up to challange" because they don't want your protests in the ground
Will you all be sitting in the west lower ready to repel any protests near your great leader?
Sounds as if you know me. A: I don't have a leader as i have a mind of my own and am not a sheep. B: Sit in the North Lower with mates. C:We will confront any protest that stops the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football.
Any protests in the car park after the game would not hinder the enjoyment of the match for any supporters not wishing to take part in protests or have the game 'hindered' by protests
Keep any protests outside of the Stadium, have some respect for fellow supporters who happen to not have the same view as you. There is a positive vibe inside the stadium and many supporters that want to build on that.
What type of protests outside the ground would not hinder the experience of people who want to support team?
Do what you want fans who support the team and pushing them for promotion don't want your toxic atmosphere in the ground. They don't want the game to be held up. Your decision,
Firstly, you completely ignored my question.
Secondly, can you answer my original question please.
Finally, I do not want anyone in the ground. I would prefer anyone whose protesting to not enter the ground because they are funding Roland.
C:We will confront any protest that stops the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football.
What about a wanky ownership that has stopped the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football , don't know about your kids but mine were properly pissed off with the joke of a season they just went through but they enjoyed the protesting immensely
I'd hope that CARD will use such games to launch major protests and encourage as many fans as possible to come along and give the regime grief. Giving them a fiver is money well spent if we can make their lives difficult for the day.
So how would you feel if it went bandy at the game with that sort of attitude to turn up at a game to launch a major protest after the team is performing well and even the players are saying how the atmosphere has changed. If you don't like whats going on don't come, if you want to turn up to protest and spoil other peoples entertainment expect a backlash and a big one at that.
Whatever
Sums you comment up with the response of "Whatever". It's clowns like you that start trouble and are the first to go hiding behind the nearest copper.
Looks like you gearing up to challenge the protestors physically?
There are many fans "gearing up to challange" because they don't want your protests in the ground
Will you all be sitting in the west lower ready to repel any protests near your great leader?
Sounds as if you know me. A: I don't have a leader as i have a mind of my own and am not a sheep. B: Sit in the North Lower with mates. C:We will confront any protest that stops the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football.
Bet your kids will love the confrontation
Well that is the hands of CARD and that is what you are bringing to the game.
I'd hope that CARD will use such games to launch major protests and encourage as many fans as possible to come along and give the regime grief. Giving them a fiver is money well spent if we can make their lives difficult for the day.
So how would you feel if it went bandy at the game with that sort of attitude to turn up at a game to launch a major protest after the team is performing well and even the players are saying how the atmosphere has changed. If you don't like whats going on don't come, if you want to turn up to protest and spoil other peoples entertainment expect a backlash and a big one at that.
Whatever
Sums you comment up with the response of "Whatever". It's clowns like you that start trouble and are the first to go hiding behind the nearest copper.
Looks like you gearing up to challenge the protestors physically?
There are many fans "gearing up to challange" because they don't want your protests in the ground
Will you all be sitting in the west lower ready to repel any protests near your great leader?
Sounds as if you know me. A: I don't have a leader as i have a mind of my own and am not a sheep. B: Sit in the North Lower with mates. C:We will confront any protest that stops the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football.
Bet your kids will love the confrontation
Well that is the hands of CARD and that is what you are bringing to the game.
C:We will confront any protest that stops the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football.
What about a wanky ownership that has stopped the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football , don't know about your kids but mine were properly pissed off with the joke of a season they just went through but they enjoyed the protesting immensely
Best you tell them that's part and parcel of supporting Charlton. Never build someones hopes up to high because when the good times come around they are more enjoyable. Secondly you would have to question the enjoyment of protesting. Children should live a happy and enjoyable life not one protesting at football matches.
I haven't been to a home game since December due to my displeasure at last season's management of the club, keeping Fraeye in for far too long, carrying on the mantra of foreign signings and staff with no experience of the Championship (or limited experience in Riga's case).
I'm going to go to the Bolton, AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale games and probably the Oldham one too.
I want to support the team on to hopefully winning most/all of those matches. I want to watch football without the atmosphere inside the stadium being hostile or threatening (be that people shouting down protestors or protestors' actions themselves, or the games being disrupted by protests.
But, I in no way support a regime that wants Charlton to be a feeder club and wants to use the club only to sell on players with no actual long-term ambition of reaching/staying in the Premier League.
I also can't forgive and forget all the many faux pas made by Katrien and co., making us a laughing stock nationally at times and constantly insulting supporters' intelligence and right to have a passion and care for the good of the club. For a supposed businesswoman it also took her too long to stop making the same mistakes and actually get in English staff and English players with some knowledge of how the Championship & League One works.
So, like many supporters, I am torn. I want to see the team win and return to the Championship. I also think being in the Championship gives us a better chance of attracting better future owners. I didn't like buying tickets for the two games I've already paid for because rather than feeling that the money is going to a club striving to be the best it can be, I feel that money is going to people who are entirely self-serving. But I do want to watch my team.
Any protests in the car park after the game would not hinder the enjoyment of the match for any supporters not wishing to take part in protests or have the game 'hindered' by protests
Keep any protests outside of the Stadium, have some respect for fellow supporters who happen to not have the same view as you. There is a positive vibe inside the stadium and many supporters that want to build on that.
What type of protests outside the ground would not hinder the experience of people who want to support team?
Do what you want fans who support the team and pushing them for promotion don't want your toxic atmosphere in the ground. They don't want the game to be held up. Your decision,
Firstly, you completely ignored my question.
Secondly, can you answer my original question please.
Finally, I do not want anyone in the ground. I would prefer anyone whose protesting to not enter the ground because they are funding Roland.
Think you need to read back, you having two conversations with two different people.
I do believe your questions have been answered, simply do what you want but keep it away from inside the ground where fans who wish to watch game.
Another way of looking at it is lets get as many as possible in the ground and make some noise and for only a fiver and show the owners but more importantly the team what support they could/would have with proper owners. Also of course an opportunity for good natured protests Got this as probably my first home game of the season
Spot on. This should be used as an opportunity for all CAFC supporters to come, support the team and show everyone what The Valley could be like under a decent regime. Park the protests and boycotts for a day so that the footballing world can be reminded what was and can be so great about CAFC.
I'd say, protest with good chants that are neither obscene or full of swearing, don't disrupt the game, so that young fans are encouraged to follow the club but are fully aware of the anti regime position. Create an anti regime carnival on the day.
If play is disrupted then the atmosphere could get toxic.
I'd hope that CARD will use such games to launch major protests and encourage as many fans as possible to come along and give the regime grief. Giving them a fiver is money well spent if we can make their lives difficult for the day.
So how would you feel if it went bandy at the game with that sort of attitude to turn up at a game to launch a major protest after the team is performing well and even the players are saying how the atmosphere has changed. If you don't like whats going on don't come, if you want to turn up to protest and spoil other peoples entertainment expect a backlash and a big one at that.
Whatever
Sums you comment up with the response of "Whatever". It's clowns like you that start trouble and are the first to go hiding behind the nearest copper.
Looks like you gearing up to challenge the protestors physically?
There are many fans "gearing up to challange" because they don't want your protests in the ground
Will you all be sitting in the west lower ready to repel any protests near your great leader?
Sounds as if you know me. A: I don't have a leader as i have a mind of my own and am not a sheep. B: Sit in the North Lower with mates. C:We will confront any protest that stops the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football.
I can't believe that there are some implied threats of violence against your own fans if they have the temerity to exercise their right to protest in the ground.
Where do you draw the line? Somebody holding up a banner? A group starting the "Sell our club" song like hundreds did at Walsall"?
You can disagree with the protests, you can shout them down if you want but things getting "physical" is crossing the line. Paradoxically, I assume that these same people "gearing up for a challenge" would've be well up for a more "confrontational" protest movement at points last year.
There are knobheads on both sides and WSS's sentiment applies to all fans .. pro and anti protest.
Any protests in the car park after the game would not hinder the enjoyment of the match for any supporters not wishing to take part in protests or have the game 'hindered' by protests
Keep any protests outside of the Stadium, have some respect for fellow supporters who happen to not have the same view as you. There is a positive vibe inside the stadium and many supporters that want to build on that.
What type of protests outside the ground would not hinder the experience of people who want to support team?
Do what you want fans who support the team and pushing them for promotion don't want your toxic atmosphere in the ground. They don't want the game to be held up. Your decision,
Firstly, you completely ignored my question.
Secondly, can you answer my original question please.
Finally, I do not want anyone in the ground. I would prefer anyone whose protesting to not enter the ground because they are funding Roland.
Think you need to read back, you having two conversations with two different people.
I do believe your questions have been answered, simply do what you want but keep it away from inside the ground where fans who wish to watch game.
Does that make sense.
It makes perfect sense.
I shall be the one handing out leaflets after the game explaining why a full on boycott is needed.
C:We will confront any protest that stops the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football.
What about a wanky ownership that has stopped the entertainment of our children and enjoyment of watching football , don't know about your kids but mine were properly pissed off with the joke of a season they just went through but they enjoyed the protesting immensely
Best you tell them that's part and parcel of supporting Charlton. Never build someones hopes up to high because when the good times come around they are more enjoyable. Secondly you would have to question the enjoyment of protesting. Children should live a happy and enjoyable life not one protesting at football matches.
They understand crapness is part of supporting Charlton but they can't understand why we have so many managers They also can't understand why so many players come and go And that's all before the disrespectful bullshit this ownership provides is even explained to them No scout for most of last season was something my ten year old questioned shouldn't happen at a professional club
Happy lives and Charlton don't go hand in hand clearly and the protesting was more exciting than the wank on the pitch we had to witness last year because there was nothing to sing about football wise .
Any protests in the car park after the game would not hinder the enjoyment of the match for any supporters not wishing to take part in protests or have the game 'hindered' by protests
Keep any protests outside of the Stadium, have some respect for fellow supporters who happen to not have the same view as you. There is a positive vibe inside the stadium and many supporters that want to build on that.
What type of protests outside the ground would not hinder the experience of people who want to support team?
Do what you want fans who support the team and pushing them for promotion don't want your toxic atmosphere in the ground. They don't want the game to be held up. Your decision,
Firstly, you completely ignored my question.
Secondly, can you answer my original question please.
Finally, I do not want anyone in the ground. I would prefer anyone whose protesting to not enter the ground because they are funding Roland.
Think you need to read back, you having two conversations with two different people.
I do believe your questions have been answered, simply do what you want but keep it away from inside the ground where fans who wish to watch game.
Does that make sense.
It makes perfect sense.
I shall be the one handing out leaflets after the game explaining why a full on boycott is needed.
I will come and take a leaflet and introduce myself.
I can't believe that there are some implied threats of violence against your own fans if they have the temerity to exercise their right to protest in the ground.
Where do you draw the line? Somebody holding up a banner? A group starting the "Sell our club" song like hundreds did at Walsall"?
You can disagree with the protests, you can shout them down if you want but things getting "physical" is crossing the line. Paradoxically, I assume that these same people "gearing up for a challenge" would've be well up for a more "confrontational" protest movement at points last year.
It's fairly clear from the messages elsewhere from those close to the club that they regard almost anything - including the basic non-offensive chants - as unacceptable. Given their views seem to closely reflect the views of Meire/Duchatalet, I would not rule out a clampdown. It would have been harder last season with the numbers allied to the levels of discontent, but the boycott will make 'troublemakers' easier to identify and eject.
I'm with you 'When I was a little boy' - not because I like the regime but because I want to give the new English football set up (there - called it that rather than strategy to avoid the confusion / clarification process that always ensues) a chance to get us promoted (again - because my view that is the quickest way to get rid of RD). Once / if it becomes clear that that is not going to happen, then I am all for whatever protests people want to do and indeed, will be with them myself. Until that time however, I don't want to see protests inside the stadium and can see a lot of conflict ensuing if they do. To a lot of people, changes have been made for the better and the in stadium protests are not wanted.
I'm with you 'When I was a little boy' - not because I like the regime but because I want to give the new English football set up (there - called it that rather than strategy to avoid the confusion / clarification process that always ensues) a chance to get us promoted (again - because my view that is the quickest way to get rid of RD). Once / if it becomes clear that that is not going to happen, then I am all for whatever protests people want to do and indeed, will be with them myself. Until that time however, I don't want to see protests inside the stadium and can see a lot of conflict ensuing if they do. To a lot of people, changes have been made for the better and the in stadium protests are not wanted.
I agree totally with your comment.
The boro match on TV showed this, we started winning and the planned walked out was heavily reduced.
When people return from boycotting to protest, then there will be a lot of conflict.
It is difficult trying to think of innovative ways to protest that keep growing CARD's support.
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Where do you draw the line? Somebody holding up a banner? A group starting the "Sell our club" song like hundreds did at Walsall"?
You can disagree with the protests, you can shout them down if you want but things getting "physical" is crossing the line. Paradoxically, I assume that these same people "gearing up for a challenge" would've be well up for a more "confrontational" protest movement at points last year.
You should also question the motives of people turning up to a game that have stated they would no longer go that is promoting families to come down"launch a major protest". If you don't agree with something do it elsewhere without spoiling other peoples enjoyment. It is clearly a threat and encouraging others to do so and it is very simple, if you are intentions is to go out and spoil fans days out don't just expect them to sit there, expect some sort of backlash.
GIFSoup
Secondly, can you answer my original question please.
Finally, I do not want anyone in the ground. I would prefer anyone whose protesting to not enter the ground because they are funding Roland.
I'm going to go to the Bolton, AFC Wimbledon and Rochdale games and probably the Oldham one too.
I want to support the team on to hopefully winning most/all of those matches. I want to watch football without the atmosphere inside the stadium being hostile or threatening (be that people shouting down protestors or protestors' actions themselves, or the games being disrupted by protests.
But, I in no way support a regime that wants Charlton to be a feeder club and wants to use the club only to sell on players with no actual long-term ambition of reaching/staying in the Premier League.
I also can't forgive and forget all the many faux pas made by Katrien and co., making us a laughing stock nationally at times and constantly insulting supporters' intelligence and right to have a passion and care for the good of the club. For a supposed businesswoman it also took her too long to stop making the same mistakes and actually get in English staff and English players with some knowledge of how the Championship & League One works.
So, like many supporters, I am torn. I want to see the team win and return to the Championship. I also think being in the Championship gives us a better chance of attracting better future owners. I didn't like buying tickets for the two games I've already paid for because rather than feeling that the money is going to a club striving to be the best it can be, I feel that money is going to people who are entirely self-serving. But I do want to watch my team.
I do believe your questions have been answered, simply do what you want but keep it away from inside the ground where fans who wish to watch game.
Does that make sense.
If play is disrupted then the atmosphere could get toxic.
I shall be the one handing out leaflets after the game explaining why a full on boycott is needed.
They also can't understand why so many players come and go
And that's all before the disrespectful bullshit this ownership provides is even explained to them
No scout for most of last season was something my ten year old questioned shouldn't happen at a professional club
Happy lives and Charlton don't go hand in hand clearly and the protesting was more exciting than the wank on the pitch we had to witness last year because there was nothing to sing about football wise .
Policemen or children?
The boro match on TV showed this, we started winning and the planned walked out was heavily reduced.
When people return from boycotting to protest, then there will be a lot of conflict.
It is difficult trying to think of innovative ways to protest that keep growing CARD's support.