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EFL Trophy draw - now apparently

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  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 5,976
    I think the EFLT will be the perfect proving ground for the future Burnley stars in our academy.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    This is our year. What date is the final?
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,609

    West Ham are not allowed to play there match at home due to their tenancy agreement.

    Can see being overcome and West Ham give away 30,000 tickets to Newham.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,881

    Nicholas said:

    Soton reserves boooom

    Probably one of the best U21 sides we could have faced though...

    How many of the Southampton Squad are getting into their First-Team at the moment, for a Premier League side its a damned good ratio
    Charlton should play the Under 21s for this tournament. It would make a good addition
    to the Kent cup.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    vff said:

    Nicholas said:

    Soton reserves boooom

    Probably one of the best U21 sides we could have faced though...

    How many of the Southampton Squad are getting into their First-Team at the moment, for a Premier League side its a damned good ratio
    Charlton should play the Under 21s for this tournament. It would make a good addition
    to the Kent cup.
    We're not allowed to as far as I know. The rules state you have to pick 5 players who played in the previous league game.

    Think we'd have been better off withdrawing from this.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956

    vff said:

    Nicholas said:

    Soton reserves boooom

    Probably one of the best U21 sides we could have faced though...

    How many of the Southampton Squad are getting into their First-Team at the moment, for a Premier League side its a damned good ratio
    Charlton should play the Under 21s for this tournament. It would make a good addition
    to the Kent cup.
    We're not allowed to as far as I know. The rules state you have to pick 5 players who played in the previous league game.

    Think we'd have been better off withdrawing from this.
    If this is the case it still means we can field 6 reserves as we have done in the past.
  • I said I probably won't go to a game in the competition but without a doubt won't be going to watch a Under 23 team.
  • Do the premier league teams have to be strictly U23 or is there a rule they can play say 2-3 overage players
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678

    EFL Trophy ‏@EFLTrophy 2h2 hours ago
    In answer to some queries, regional split for groups done on a divisional basis, so eg @CTFCofficial in the 12 most northerly #League2 clubs

    Hate to say it makes sense...

    As the games aren't being played on a divisional basis, it actually makes no sense at all.
    Hence the numerous 200 mile round trip fixtures that no one is going to make.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    The top four from each group go through to the next round...
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,300
    edited July 2016

    EFL Trophy ‏@EFLTrophy 2h2 hours ago
    In answer to some queries, regional split for groups done on a divisional basis, so eg @CTFCofficial in the 12 most northerly #League2 clubs

    Hate to say it makes sense...

    As the games aren't being played on a divisional basis, it actually makes no sense at all.
    Hence the numerous 200 mile round trip fixtures that no one is going to make.
    Well it does... Because each Group has to have at least one team from each Division.

    So if 23-teams (of the 64) of those teams in the North of England are all from League One, there would be a high chance of one Group being made up of League One teams.

    If one team is from the South (We'll say Charlton) and there are 23-teams from League Two (out of the 64) who are most southerly you could have Charlton in a Group with three teams from League Two

    How is that fair?

    Agreed the whole idea of including U21 teams makes the competition sound terrible but Geographically it makes sense how they've done it... This time round Cambridge and Cheltenham are just plain unlucky that based on the Division they're in they're border line North / South
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    vff said:

    Nicholas said:

    Soton reserves boooom

    Probably one of the best U21 sides we could have faced though...

    How many of the Southampton Squad are getting into their First-Team at the moment, for a Premier League side its a damned good ratio
    Charlton should play the Under 21s for this tournament. It would make a good addition
    to the Kent cup.
    No, they will need to be rested for League matches. I think the Club staff will have to play in this.
  • milo
    milo Posts: 388

    To be fair there are some good Derbies in there...

    Millwall v Gillingham
    Southend v Leyton Orient
    Norwich v Peterborough
    Swindon v Oxford
    Swansea v Newport
    Bristol Rovers v Yeovil
    Middlesbrough v Scunthorpe
    Sunderland v Hartlepool
    Derby v Port Vale

    etc.

    If Crystal Palace consider Brighton a derby - a team that are further away from them than Stevenage then why not.


  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347

    oldbloke said:

    Millwall away cup midweek to Luton will bring back some memories

    Luton away can be a pain in the arse for us. Little groups of hoodies roaming around looking for stray Millwall fans so they can take 'revenge' for a game that took place before they was even thought of!

    Always good to be able to see it from someone else's perspective, even if it is just once in a while.
    Once in a while? We get it more than you'd think. Games v Millwall usually draw out all the local meatheads and nutters who don't usually bother much these days or don't go to football at all, but are attracted because of our reputation. Some places you wouldn't imagine. Northampton was bad one year, they waited until the main lot had got the train back to London then attacked a small group who were drinking in the town. Similar happened at Shrewsbury.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    Absolutely and categorically couldn't give a flying f....
  • Tutt-Tutt
    Tutt-Tutt Posts: 3,272
    edited July 2016
    U-23 competition. No need to go to these games, unless you go to Charlton XI fixtures in pre-season. If this was cricket, these matches would not be classed as first class fixtures.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347

    Absolutely and categorically couldn't give a flying f....

    Yeah fair point. Digressed a bit, but was just responding to an earlier post.

  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    edited July 2016

    Absolutely and categorically couldn't give a flying f....

    Yeah fair point. Digressed a bit, but was just responding to an earlier post.


    @MillwallFan Sorry mate, wasn't referring to your post. Was just talking about the competition generally. :-)
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219

    vff said:

    Nicholas said:

    Soton reserves boooom

    Probably one of the best U21 sides we could have faced though...

    How many of the Southampton Squad are getting into their First-Team at the moment, for a Premier League side its a damned good ratio
    Charlton should play the Under 21s for this tournament. It would make a good addition
    to the Kent cup.
    We're not allowed to as far as I know. The rules state you have to pick 5 players who played in the previous league game.

    Think we'd have been better off withdrawing from this.
    If this is the case it still means we can field 6 reserves as we have done in the past.
    That was when we had 6 reserves available to pick ;)

    The other side of the coin means it puts pressure on 5 players to play twice a week, would we really want Solly playing twice a week in this mickey mouse cup with his injury record?

    You need strength in depth which we don't have or it means burdening first team regulars which could potentially affect our league form. Either way it boils down to the issue of a lack of depth in the squad.
  • Struggling to think of a more pointless competition, it's become a farce.
    I'm actually hoping that a premier league team wins it because then they might decide to scrap the idea completely.
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,300

    Struggling to think of a more pointless competition, it's become a farce.
    I'm actually hoping that a premier league team wins it because then they might decide to scrap the idea completely.

    They have pretty much admitted that if two Academies reach the Final then it'll be re-thought for next season.

    Basically if thats their thinking why are they in it in the first place?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,300
    At the time same time would be good to see the Academies fail dismally as would then show youngsters that maybe joining Chelsea etc. isnt the best idea for their careers
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347

    Absolutely and categorically couldn't give a flying f....

    Yeah fair point. Digressed a bit, but was just responding to an earlier post.


    @MillwallFan Sorry mate, wasn't referring to your post. Was just talking about the competition generally. :-)
    Ah, my bad, lol :blush:

  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,843
    Dog. Wank.
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    Off_it said:

    Dog. Wank.

    Woof. Thank you
  • Hmm. Should I go Crawley at home.....no
    Hmm. Should I go to Southampton kids at home....no
    How about the glamour tie v Colchester away....errrrr, no.

    What cup is this? Forgotten before it starts, what is the point of it.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    A Portsmouth supporters group says they plan to walk out of EFL Trophy matches shortly after kick-off in protest at the competition's new format.

    Sixteen Category One Academies, including many from Premier League clubs, have been included this season.

    Portsmouth's board voted against the EFL's proposal in the summer.

    "Once the games kick off, we'll all walk out to show our contempt for this decision," Bob Beech from group SOS Pompey told BBC Radio Solent.

    "We thought if fans boycotted the games completely, the club would suffer financially through no fault of their own.

    "We voted through unanimously at our own meeting to walk out shortly after kick-off."

    Traditionally a competition for just League One and League Two clubs and previously known as the Johnstone's Paint Trophy, the tournament has been expanded to 64 teams.

    Portsmouth have been drawn in a group alongside Reading under-21s, Bristol Rovers and Yeovil.

    SOS Pompey's opposition to the EFL Trophy has been echoed by other clubs since the new format was confirmed.

    Cambridge United chief executive Jez George said the changes may not have gone ahead had EFL clubs known some Premier League sides would reject the invitation to play.

    Six clubs, including Arsenal, Liverpool and Tottenham, declined the chance to enter under-21 sides.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    CAFCTrev said:

    Is it just me or do we have the dullest group of the lot?

    Well, with us in it there was no chance it could be anything but really.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368

    Cambridge United chief executive Jez George said the changes may not have gone ahead had EFL clubs known some Premier League sides would reject the invitation to play.

    Jez is such a terrible name.
  • Splodge
    Splodge Posts: 514
    Colchester away will no doubt be a three-figure crowd. Perhaps literally!!