The logic behind Southgate i suppose, is that many "successful countries" have a succession plan, rather than lurching from one extreme to another. Joachim Löw for example was Klinsmann's assistant when he took over
Of course that works best when the predecessor was successful! Gary Neville a year ago was the great pundit, who was working with Roy and the obvious choice to take over. Now his reputation is badly tarnished
Another thought for Sean Dyche is that he's been relegated (Great just what England need I hear you say) but in International Football you can't be relegated... You need someone who is going to lift the spirits of the players after being knocked out of a tournament and Dyche in getting promotion at the first attempt is perfect for that reason.
Another thought for Sean Dyche is that he's been relegated (Great just what England need I hear you say) but in International Football you can't be relegated... You need someone who is going to lift the spirits of the players after being knocked out of a tournament and Dyche in getting promotion at the first attempt is perfect for that reason.
and Dyche loves a good old fashioned 4 4 2 with aggressive strikers, a rock hard midfield and a big and solid back four with fast overlapping fullbacks .. what team does that remind me of ? .. Iceland
Someone from abroad, there aren't any decent English candidates.
Allardyce is I guess the best of a bad bunch.
Who from abroad? - Pochettino wont leave Spurs... there will be riots if we picked van Gaal whilst Guardiola and Mourinho and now in jobs themselves, the only two foreign names that might be possible are de Boer or Hiddink
Allardyce with Eddie Howe as assistant part time so not to conflict with Bournemouth job. Then Howe takes over full time after 2018 World Cup with experience he has gained being involved in the international set up
Allardyce with Eddie Howe as assistant part time so not to conflict with Bournemouth job. Then Howe takes over full time after 2018 World Cup with experience he has gained being involved in the international set up
I didnt think the FA liked having a Manager who is Part-Time with a club as well
I think because of the pressures of the Premier League no Chairman would allow their Manager to be involved in both.
Allardyce with Eddie Howe as assistant part time so not to conflict with Bournemouth job. Then Howe takes over full time after 2018 World Cup with experience he has gained being involved in the international set up
Allardyce with Eddie Howe as assistant part time so not to conflict with Bournemouth job. Then Howe takes over full time after 2018 World Cup with experience he has gained being involved in the international set up
I didnt think the FA liked having a Manager who is Part-Time with a club as well
I think because of the pressures of the Premier League no Chairman would allow their Manager to be involved in both.
Either that or he walks, that way the chairman gets the best of both worlds, Howe still his manager and a pay off then and if and when he takes over England full time
Allardyce with Eddie Howe as assistant part time so not to conflict with Bournemouth job. Then Howe takes over full time after 2018 World Cup with experience he has gained being involved in the international set up
I didnt think the FA liked having a Manager who is Part-Time with a club as well
I think because of the pressures of the Premier League no Chairman would allow their Manager to be involved in both.
Isn't this symptomatic of the problem though, the FA stuck back in the 1950s and when they try to get hip and trendy, they just fuck it up .. always appoint a lapdog time server as manager who has no innovative ideas ..but on the other hand the FA seem keen to let poseurs like Beckham and Neville, though good and dedicated internationals in their time, sit along with the manager probably making ridiculous suggestions which chumps like Roy just nod agreement to, go along to get along .. FIFA might be corrupt, our FA is just rupt (is that a word) with incompetence
History says Capello was the best England manager, even if not the one with the most success.
Statistics correct as of 27 June 2016
Manager England career P W D L Win % PPG Competitions Fabio Capello 2008–2012 42 28 8 6 66.7 2.19 2010 World Cup – second round Alf Ramsey 1963–1974 113 69 27 17 61.1 2.07 1964 European Championship – failed to qualify 1966 World Cup – champions 1968 European Championship – third place 1970 World Cup – quarter-final 1972 European Championship – failed to qualify 1974 World Cup – failed to qualify Glenn Hoddle 1996–1999 28 17 6 5 60.7 2.04 1998 World Cup – second round Ron Greenwood 1977–1982 55 33 12 10 60.0 2.02 1978 World Cup – failed to qualify 1980 European Championship – group stage 1982 World Cup – second round Sven-Göran Eriksson 2001–2006 67 40 17 10 59.7 2.04 2002 World Cup – quarter-final 2004 European Championship – quarter-final 2006 World Cup – quarter-final Roy Hodgson 2012–2016 56 33 15 8 58.9 2.07 2012 European Championship – quarter-final 2014 World Cup – group stage 2016 European Championship – Round of 16 Walter Winterbottom 1946–1962 139 78 33 28 56.1 1.92 1950 World Cup – group stage 1954 World Cup – quarter-final 1958 World Cup – group play-off 1962 World Cup – quarter-final Steve McClaren 2006–2007 18 9 4 5 50.0 1.83 2008 European Championship – failed to qualify Bobby Robson 1982–1990 95 47 30 18 49.5 1.8 1984 European Championship – failed to qualify 1986 World Cup – quarter-final 1988 European Championship – group stage 1990 World Cup – fourth place Don Revie 1974–1977 29 14 8 7 48.3 1.72 1976 European Championship – failed to qualify Terry Venables 1994–1996[note 1] 23 11 11 1 47.8 1.91 1996 European Championship – semi-final Graham Taylor 1990–1993 38 18 13 7 47.4 1.76 1992 European Championship – group stage 1994 World Cup – failed to qualify Joe Mercer 1974 7 3 3 1 42.9 1.71 — Kevin Keegan 1999–2000 18 7 7 4 38.9 1.56 2000 European Championship – group stage Howard Wilkinson 1999, 2000[note 2] 2 0 1 1 0.0 0.5 — Peter Taylor 2000[note 3] 1 0 0 1 0.0 0 — Stuart Pearce 2012[note 4] 1 0 0 1 0.0 0 —
History says Capello was the best England manager, even if not the one with the most success.
Statistics correct as of 27 June 2016
Manager England career P W D L Win % PPG Competitions Fabio Capello 2008–2012 42 28 8 6 66.7 2.19 2010 World Cup – second round Alf Ramsey 1963–1974 113 69 27 17 61.1 2.07 1964 European Championship – failed to qualify 1966 World Cup – champions 1968 European Championship – third place 1970 World Cup – quarter-final 1972 European Championship – failed to qualify 1974 World Cup – failed to qualify Glenn Hoddle 1996–1999 28 17 6 5 60.7 2.04 1998 World Cup – second round Ron Greenwood 1977–1982 55 33 12 10 60.0 2.02 1978 World Cup – failed to qualify 1980 European Championship – group stage 1982 World Cup – second round Sven-Göran Eriksson 2001–2006 67 40 17 10 59.7 2.04 2002 World Cup – quarter-final 2004 European Championship – quarter-final 2006 World Cup – quarter-final Roy Hodgson 2012–2016 56 33 15 8 58.9 2.07 2012 European Championship – quarter-final 2014 World Cup – group stage 2016 European Championship – Round of 16 Walter Winterbottom 1946–1962 139 78 33 28 56.1 1.92 1950 World Cup – group stage 1954 World Cup – quarter-final 1958 World Cup – group play-off 1962 World Cup – quarter-final Steve McClaren 2006–2007 18 9 4 5 50.0 1.83 2008 European Championship – failed to qualify Bobby Robson 1982–1990 95 47 30 18 49.5 1.8 1984 European Championship – failed to qualify 1986 World Cup – quarter-final 1988 European Championship – group stage 1990 World Cup – fourth place Don Revie 1974–1977 29 14 8 7 48.3 1.72 1976 European Championship – failed to qualify Terry Venables 1994–1996[note 1] 23 11 11 1 47.8 1.91 1996 European Championship – semi-final Graham Taylor 1990–1993 38 18 13 7 47.4 1.76 1992 European Championship – group stage 1994 World Cup – failed to qualify Joe Mercer 1974 7 3 3 1 42.9 1.71 — Kevin Keegan 1999–2000 18 7 7 4 38.9 1.56 2000 European Championship – group stage Howard Wilkinson 1999, 2000[note 2] 2 0 1 1 0.0 0.5 — Peter Taylor 2000[note 3] 1 0 0 1 0.0 0 — Stuart Pearce 2012[note 4] 1 0 0 1 0.0 0 —
Capello won one game at a major tournament though (from 4), surely Sven was the best out of the managers this century?
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Of course that works best when the predecessor was successful! Gary Neville a year ago was the great pundit, who was working with Roy and the obvious choice to take over. Now his reputation is badly tarnished
Allardyce is I guess the best of a bad bunch.
Offer him a better wage than PSG.
I think because of the pressures of the Premier League no Chairman would allow their Manager to be involved in both.
Worth a call to find out!
always appoint a lapdog time server as manager who has no innovative ideas ..but on the other hand the FA seem keen to let poseurs like Beckham and Neville, though good and dedicated internationals in their time, sit along with the manager probably making ridiculous suggestions which chumps like Roy just nod agreement to, go along to get along .. FIFA might be corrupt, our FA is just rupt (is that a word) with incompetence
Statistics correct as of 27 June 2016
Manager England career P W D L Win % PPG Competitions
Fabio Capello 2008–2012 42 28 8 6 66.7 2.19 2010 World Cup – second round
Alf Ramsey 1963–1974 113 69 27 17 61.1 2.07 1964 European Championship – failed to qualify
1966 World Cup – champions
1968 European Championship – third place
1970 World Cup – quarter-final
1972 European Championship – failed to qualify
1974 World Cup – failed to qualify
Glenn Hoddle 1996–1999 28 17 6 5 60.7 2.04 1998 World Cup – second round
Ron Greenwood 1977–1982 55 33 12 10 60.0 2.02 1978 World Cup – failed to qualify
1980 European Championship – group stage
1982 World Cup – second round
Sven-Göran Eriksson 2001–2006 67 40 17 10 59.7 2.04 2002 World Cup – quarter-final
2004 European Championship – quarter-final
2006 World Cup – quarter-final
Roy Hodgson 2012–2016 56 33 15 8 58.9 2.07 2012 European Championship – quarter-final
2014 World Cup – group stage
2016 European Championship – Round of 16
Walter Winterbottom 1946–1962 139 78 33 28 56.1 1.92 1950 World Cup – group stage
1954 World Cup – quarter-final
1958 World Cup – group play-off
1962 World Cup – quarter-final
Steve McClaren 2006–2007 18 9 4 5 50.0 1.83 2008 European Championship – failed to qualify
Bobby Robson 1982–1990 95 47 30 18 49.5 1.8 1984 European Championship – failed to qualify
1986 World Cup – quarter-final
1988 European Championship – group stage
1990 World Cup – fourth place
Don Revie 1974–1977 29 14 8 7 48.3 1.72 1976 European Championship – failed to qualify
Terry Venables 1994–1996[note 1] 23 11 11 1 47.8 1.91 1996 European Championship – semi-final
Graham Taylor 1990–1993 38 18 13 7 47.4 1.76 1992 European Championship – group stage
1994 World Cup – failed to qualify
Joe Mercer 1974 7 3 3 1 42.9 1.71 —
Kevin Keegan 1999–2000 18 7 7 4 38.9 1.56 2000 European Championship – group stage
Howard Wilkinson 1999, 2000[note 2] 2 0 1 1 0.0 0.5 —
Peter Taylor 2000[note 3] 1 0 0 1 0.0 0 —
Stuart Pearce 2012[note 4] 1 0 0 1 0.0 0 —