The fact Riga got 16 points after that amount of games is a surprise, the squad was rotten when he came in. Yet still managed to turn some players confidence. He dragged out our relegation battle longer than I thought he would.
I have nothing against Riga, had to get unfit, low confidence based players to gel in record time. Who could have accomplished that? (Of the legitimate RD options).
Id like to see him stay, I would like at least a handful of things i can connect with next season. But would you stay if you were him, what a dreadful transfer window it would be for him he did, deserves better than RD.
That's why you have a squad that is big enough and good enough to withstand injuries, suspensions and lack of form. We shouldn't have had to go immediately to the younger players and expose some of them in the way that we have.
That's why you have a squad that is big enough and good enough to withstand injuries, suspensions and lack of form. We shouldn't have had to go immediately to the younger players and expose some of them in the way that we have.
I think fitness was, and still is, a big problem of ours that goes back to this pre-season under Luzon. Has to be a huge feature of our pre-season for League 1.
Riga at least doesn't seem to rush people back that previous managers did, particularly Fraeye when he was trying to save his skin.
That's why you have a squad that is big enough and good enough to withstand injuries, suspensions and lack of form. We shouldn't have had to go immediately to the younger players and expose some of them in the way that we have.
I think fitness was, and still is, a big problem of ours that goes back to this pre-season under Luzon. Has to be a huge feature of our pre-season for League 1.
Riga at least doesn't seem to rush people back that previous managers did, particularly Fraeye when he was trying to save his skin.
Good point about fitness. Perhaps if we had a manager that understood what was needed to cope with English Championship football we wouldn't be heading to League 1 (that includes recruitment in the first place).
My instinct was Warnock would have kept us up but it's not correct because Warnock and managers of his character and ability would refuse to work under this regime and the ludicrous set to fail recruitment and retention policy.
Therefore we get compliant yes men willing to work within a unworkable system until the owner decides its time for the next puppet.
Riga escapes criticism because it's the system that's failed not the manager...however that's not the case as riga knows what the duchatelet gigs are about and is happy to make the right noises to the supporters whilst never coming out and saying what complete bollocks the ownership strategy is. Nice bloke and gets away with picking up his pay cheque and an easy ride from the fans.
We will only get yes men puppets like him and fraeye under this lot or inexperienced unqualified managers whereby it's too big an opportunity to turn down.
Riga is a failure at Charlton and part of the failure of the ownership.
Warnock and his type wouldn't have put up with it or made comments that entirely swerve the real issues that have sent us down namely ill qualified management on and off the pitch, inadequate playing squad, barmy transfers in and out and a lunatic regime over seeing it all.
We won't move forward until Murray Meire, Duchatelet, Riga and everyone associated with this perverted experiment is shifted out of the club.
Riga took over a totally demoralised squad and turned it round. Looking at just point totals is a little unfair.
Good stuff, let's tell the league that and they might let us stay in the Championship...
Sorry for the sarcasm RR, I do get your point, but the only thing that matters is points on the board. Queensland's stuff about British managers failing in the 70s is irrelevant. We have had three Belgian managers fail in the past two years... Most of the rest of us understand what is meant by choosing a British manager, one with experience of English football and with the right contacts to fill gaps at the right time and to bring in players they know have the "right stuff" when there is a fight on your hands. If you land in a country with none of that, it is always an uphill battle when up against the likes of Warnock.
The bloke has been trying to fight with one hand tied behind his back too - the sentence "That will be certainly the contents of the next meeting because we haven’t had any discussion until now" speaks volumes. What other organisation would not have had a discussion with it's lynchpin senior manager about such an impending catastrophe until after it happens? Ridiculous.
Algarve, Dowie and Pardew were not in the 70's as you well know, it's not irrelevant. They both were recent British Charlton managers who failed miserably. I understand exactly what is meant when people say they want a British manager. But just having experience in English football is no guarantee for success. There are literally 100's of other British managers at other clubs around the country who have been sacked over the past 20 years because they failed to get results despite having knowledge and experience in the English game. What you say in your last paragraph is spot on, and this is what the poor bloke has been up against, and this is what anyone mad or stupid enough to take on the job will be up against. It seems to me that Riga's first stint here is now either being wiped from history or being classed as a failure, whereas I see it as being highly successful. His two stints put together have been more than reasonable given the extremely difficult circumstances.
My instinct was Warnock would have kept us up but it's not correct because Warnock and managers of his character and ability would refuse to work under this regime and the ludicrous set to fail recruitment and retention policy.
Therefore we get compliant yes men willing to work within a unworkable system until the owner decides its time for the next puppet.
Riga escapes criticism because it's the system that's failed not the manager...however that's not the case as riga knows what the duchatelet gigs are about and is happy to make the right noises to the supporters whilst never coming out and saying what complete bollocks the ownership strategy is. Nice bloke and gets away with picking up his pay cheque and an easy ride from the fans.
We will only get yes men puppets like him and fraeye under this lot or inexperienced unqualified managers whereby it's too big an opportunity to turn down.
Riga is a failure at Charlton and part of the failure of the ownership.
Warnock and his type wouldn't have put up with it or made comments that entirely swerve the real issues that have sent us down namely ill qualified management on and off the pitch, inadequate playing squad, barmy transfers in and out and a lunatic regime over seeing it all.
We won't move forward until Murray Meire, Duchatelet, Riga and everyone associated with this perverted experiment is shifted out of the club.
Wankers.
If Riga left today, would he get another Championship job - I highly doubt it!
He failed at Blackpool, under-achieved at Metz and has now well and truly taken us down.
The points gap when he took over was only 3. We went down with a whimper, a win here or there disguising a pathetic effort at a time when a manager of the calibre some claim should have had his team fighring like rabid dogs to stay up.
All this with a very decent squad at his disposal.
He was not the best choice when the idiotic Fraeye tok over - but he was Roland's mate - thats why he's here. Sure no sane person would want to work for these clowns, but Riga is a Starprix man and he happily took Roland's money again.
I don't dislike Riga because he is Foreign - not at all. I dislike him because he is very much part of Roland's empire - 100% from his nicely coiffeured head to his shiny toes.
He's an intrinsic part of the network, part of our problems and i want him out with his network buddies so we can start afresh!
The whole Belgian thing leaves a sour taste in my mouth. I do think Riga is a decent guy but we need to shake off this disease and move back to something home-grown; both in terms of ownership and team management. That is the culture and mentality of Charlton. Fact.
I understand the backlash against these particular Belgians. But I cannot understand the anti foreign, British only sentiment. Hanns Jepson, Alan Simonson, Claus Jensen, Paulo Di Canio immediately spring to mind as foreigners who have delivered Charlton fans some of their most memorable moments over the years. I would not discard anyone based purely on their nationality, including Belgian players or managers.
All were proven players before we signed them. It's signing players who are clearly going to be out of their depth that's the problem.
Riga was never the right man....he was lucky the previous year he took over a half decent squad ...this time he took over a beaten bunch and that's what they are today ...Riga will be sacked and surely the Belgium conveyor belt is now empty ??
Di Canio looking for a job ..everyday at the Valley would be FUN.
Riga was never the right man....he was lucky the previous year he took over a half decent squad ...this time he took over a beaten bunch and that's what they are today ...Riga will be sacked and surely the Belgium conveyor belt is now empty ??
Di Canio looking for a job ..everyday at the Valley would be FUN.
Roland and Daisy definitely couldn't handle him lol
That's why you have a squad that is big enough and good enough to withstand injuries, suspensions and lack of form. We shouldn't have had to go immediately to the younger players and expose some of them in the way that we have.
I think fitness was, and still is, a big problem of ours that goes back to this pre-season under Luzon. Has to be a huge feature of our pre-season for League 1.
Riga at least doesn't seem to rush people back that previous managers did, particularly Fraeye when he was trying to save his skin.
Good point about fitness. Perhaps if we had a manager that understood what was needed to cope with English Championship football we wouldn't be heading to League 1 (that includes recruitment in the first place).
Didn't Riga concentrate on fitness in the same way Powell did? I remember reading that during his first stint?
I could be confusing him with BP or KF but I'm almost certain I am not.
He's a decent manager. If he was in charge all season we would never have been relegated.
What exactly has he done to prove that he's a decent manager? I'm not saying that he definitely isn't but I just can't see the evidence to prove that he is. Nobody could say with any certainty that with him in charge we would definitely have stayed up, as we would still have had the same poisonous clown pulling the strings of his puppets from Belgium.
Riga is irrelevant, as are all the coaches that have been appointed. Duchatelet sees no value in a coach, they are a cost overhead to him and only required to arrange training and select the approved players for matches.
I actually quite like the bloke and the team have improved a bit (not nearly enough) since he came back. He will get the blame and the sack though while the idle, useless Ms Meire remains in post.
Can't believe people are looking for another change of manager...what next - calculate points per game after 12 games? 8? One thing is for certain - the constant changing of managers has done no good whatsoever
I'm not looking for a change of manager, I'm looking for a change of regime.
Riga seems to get the best out of some players. Certainly Harriott, Pope, fox (admittedly this may be down to hiring suk-young) played better with him.
He has a basic grasp of systems. I'm not sure he tactically makes the right choices and he doesn't strike me as someone who can make a simple move that wins the game.
Commentators last night were begging for Harriott and Lookman to be swapped over for over half the game which if it was that obvious he should have tried it?
I like him and think if we have to do any of league 1 with Duchatelet I'd want him to be backed to build a team to get promoted.
Hope to god we get new owners in the next two months and then I think better for all concerned to have someone new to build for the medium term. Fed up with all this short termist bull shit.
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I have nothing against Riga, had to get unfit, low confidence based players to gel in record time. Who could have accomplished that? (Of the legitimate RD options).
Id like to see him stay, I would like at least a handful of things i can connect with next season. But would you stay if you were him, what a dreadful transfer window it would be for him he did, deserves better than RD.
We shouldn't have had to go immediately to the younger players and expose some of them in the way that we have.
Riga at least doesn't seem to rush people back that previous managers did, particularly Fraeye when he was trying to save his skin.
Therefore we get compliant yes men willing to work within a unworkable system until the owner decides its time for the next puppet.
Riga escapes criticism because it's the system that's failed not the manager...however that's not the case as riga knows what the duchatelet gigs are about and is happy to make the right noises to the supporters whilst never coming out and saying what complete bollocks the ownership strategy is. Nice bloke and gets away with picking up his pay cheque and an easy ride from the fans.
We will only get yes men puppets like him and fraeye under this lot or inexperienced unqualified managers whereby it's too big an opportunity to turn down.
Riga is a failure at Charlton and part of the failure of the ownership.
Warnock and his type wouldn't have put up with it or made comments that entirely swerve the real issues that have sent us down namely ill qualified management on and off the pitch, inadequate playing squad, barmy transfers in and out and a lunatic regime over seeing it all.
We won't move forward until Murray Meire, Duchatelet, Riga and everyone associated with this perverted experiment is shifted out of the club.
Wankers.
He failed at Blackpool, under-achieved at Metz and has now well and truly taken us down.
The points gap when he took over was only 3. We went down with a whimper, a win here or there disguising a pathetic effort at a time when a manager of the calibre some claim should have had his team fighring like rabid dogs to stay up.
All this with a very decent squad at his disposal.
He was not the best choice when the idiotic Fraeye tok over - but he was Roland's mate - thats why he's here. Sure no sane person would want to work for these clowns, but Riga is a Starprix man and he happily took Roland's money again.
I don't dislike Riga because he is Foreign - not at all. I dislike him because he is very much part of Roland's empire - 100% from his nicely coiffeured head to his shiny toes.
He's an intrinsic part of the network, part of our problems and i want him out with his network buddies so we can start afresh!
Cheese on toast is the new pizza.
Three managers per season is the new Alex Ferguson.
Di Canio looking for a job ..everyday at the Valley would be FUN.
"You've failed Charlton, and as a result we've been relegated. Why don't you do the honourable things and resign?"
Said Jose Riga to Katrien
I could be confusing him with BP or KF but I'm almost certain I am not.
Some ^ will not ever accept what good he can do. He's unfairly tarred with a negative brush, I think with money he could be brilliant.
I actually quite like the bloke and the team have improved a bit (not nearly enough) since he came back. He will get the blame and the sack though while the idle, useless Ms Meire remains in post.
He has a basic grasp of systems. I'm not sure he tactically makes the right choices and he doesn't strike me as someone who can make a simple move that wins the game.
Commentators last night were begging for Harriott and Lookman to be swapped over for over half the game which if it was that obvious he should have tried it?
I like him and think if we have to do any of league 1 with Duchatelet I'd want him to be backed to build a team to get promoted.
Hope to god we get new owners in the next two months and then I think better for all concerned to have someone new to build for the medium term. Fed up with all this short termist bull shit.