A good ol' devils advocate question to end the week. No right or wrong answer, just interested in people's interpretation
If after all that has gone on since Roland acquired the club and Miere started running it, and all of the moans and complaints this has generated. If you provide backing to the regime by fronting up for a season ticket for next season, and the same key issues occur next season, do you....
a. :Lose some of your weight to moan / protest about it? You knew what and who you were backing and chose to crack on accept it
OR
b. Have just as much / if not more right to moan / protest about it. You showed 'loyalty' to the regime at the point it did not deserve it, and this has once again been taken for granted
OR
c. Continuing to give money to the regime and backing the regime are two completely independent points and should not be linked
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d. something else
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Comments
I don't really don't think buying a season ticket (which I haven't, yet) means your "supporting" a regieme. I bought season tickets during the Jiminez era and didn't see it that way, however some might like to characterise it.
I'm also that idiot who if this happens again will just sigh, facepalm and renew for more pain.
On the flip side, I fully respect others right to attend the football at The Valley and understand how difficult it is to stop and believe they shouldn't be condemned for doing so.
By purchasing a season ticket before the start of the transfer window, you are paying to watch a team of youngsters and foreigners.
I bought a S/T under Glikstein, but didn't really support him.
I bought a S/T at Palace and no way did I support the move there.
I bought a S/T under Jimenez and Slater, but I didn't support them (as individuals).
I support Charlton. I go every game regardless, I always will. If I don't buy a S/T I will pay them far more, paying on the gate, will massively inconvenience myself & have a load of unnecessary hassle.
You shouldn't be dividing the support, even unintentionally.
The hard core supporters will always go.
I have no problem with anyone that doesn't want to renew or delay.
Everyone is right, because it's their decision and everyone has different circumstances.
Lets stick together, so that when RD has gone, hopefully the boycotters will return.
If our fans think that by renewing my S/T for the 44th season, I lose the right to protest, then I'll have to stop protesting. Beyond parody. On that basis there can be no more protests inside the ground.
Am I allowed to protest inside the ground tomorrow ?
The nasty little emails that the club have sent out this week show how important to them the 'deadline' is - and therefore how important to us as many people as possible delaying might be.
I haven't actually formulated my point of view yet, but the above point still stands. SCABS
If we didn't renew and we go to every game, there's a very good chance at least one or more of the seats will go. I'm almost certain of it.
If we had loads of empty seats around us, we had no mates who we sit with, we didn't go to ALL the games, we didn't have the best seats, then I agree why renew ?
I also back 100% everyone that doesn't renew.
As I've said before it's akin to who went to Selhurst and who boycotted.
Neither were right or wrong.
If fans like me hadn't gone to every game, we may well have gone into administration and Charlton may not exist.
On the other hand if people hadn't boycotted, we may still be there now.
We're all correct, we all have different circumstances, we all have to do what we have to do.
NB I have 2 adult sons who have had S/T's since they were about 8 years old. (They don't sit with me).
One is renewing and one isn't. It's their choice.
I do believe you lose that right to be taken seriously when you moan & want change from the endless terrible things the regime does if you continue to help fund their anti sport experiment with our club by supporting them with your money.
I really hate this new reality and the impact it's having on me. More or less every day I hope for some good news and of course there isn't any which is further depressing.
However like a lot of football fans I am also waiting and hoping. I yearn for the landscape to be very different in three months time, and for my internal struggle to be eased.
Which makes me wonder if I buy a ticket to go to Charlton essentially for me and the fact that money goes to the regime is a kind of by-product of that.
So no if you want him gone your better off outside the Valley then inside paying Roland in my opinion.
Why not hold fire on the season ticket until the regime dramatically changes or sells out. If every present season ticket holder did this then a change would have more likelihood of happening.
I have agonised long and hard about this decision but as there are only 4 seats available according to the website in my block I renewed earlier. I have sat where I sit for more than 10 years and like it there so I will be the one to lose out when my seat gets nabbed by somebody else.
I will be donating £50 (2 x £25 early bird discounts ) to the protest fund run by @Curb_It as the only reason I did it was to safeguard my seats not for any financial benefit. If I had season tickets in less populated areas then I would be boycotting with the best of them.
In answer to the question I'd say c) but others will doubtless disagree which is their prerogative.
I've just let go two seats in row B on the halfway line in the West Upper.
Would you consider donating the £100 you've saved to the protest fund?
Logic dictates that the Belgian will more likely clear off if no one is paying him than if people continue to pay him even if they dress up as camels or wear black and white scarves after he's got their hard earned.
Utter senseless madness to fund this regime and probably materially damages the prospects and incentives of getting the owner gone regardless of how it's spun or attempted to be justified.