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  • Eggington vs Brandon Rios on the AJ card was a done deal too. Providing Sam came through tonight.
  • I know it ain’t popular to like Amir Khan but I think he’s a game little f**k. He’s got great speed and punch variety and just suffers from a lack of top level power and a suspect chin. Bit of he can get through through that first dig and carry a numbness through the rest of a fight, he’s got a chance.

    Great fighter t and really enjoyed the ‘no commentary with 70s classics blasted out in the pub backdrop’ fight.

    Somebody else’s guy...
  • edited September 2018
    Bring on garcia v porter can't wait
  • I really don’t mind Amir only ever wants to fight the top guys of which Kel Brooke is not one in my opinion (he was once upon a time)

    Kel Brooke would’ve struggled with Vargas last night in the same way khan did

    If Brooke does drop to 147 then khan will beat him of that I am certain , and Kel broke needs the khan fight real bad for his own pennies never a good thing to take a fight due to the need of cash , last time he done that his face got caved in and cost him shit loads of good fights that would’ve earnt him bigger bucks than the GGG fight earnt him

    Khan vs Pac-Man would be a brilliant fight to watch far more entertaining than Brooke vs khan

    You have to ask yourself why Eddie H has publicly stated Brooke vs khan must happen next or not at all

    One of them only has one fight left in them and it’s not khan ,

    if the fight don’t happen next , who can Kel fight , he pulled out of the last show he then went missing from all tv and media work until he resurfaced this week

    Kel has an issue and I believe its his face won’t take anymore punishment yet his bank balance won’t last him 2 yrs if he don’t so it’s now or never Eddie has to make it happen or put him in with a big name some how to make up the coffers






  • Porter v Garcia was a great fight, showed the difference in class between Khan and the top guys in the weight division.

    Hard to argue with the decision, could have gone either way or even a draw. One judge having Porter by 4 seemed a bit off though.
  • Had Garcia by a round as I felt he landed the cleaner work
    Really pleased for Porter though, only have to look at his record, the guy fights anyone.

    Porter v Spence unification next?
  • Just watched it had porter up by two but was a very very close fight
  • I hugely rate Danny Garcia, him v Thurman was a banger. I also rate Amir Khan it isn't his whiskers that are the problem I've said tons of times, it's his concentration. He isn't a one punch KO man
  • I agree mate always at his most vulnerable when he has high periods of success himself
  • Prescott hit him so hard it would have knocked anyone out in fact he did very well to get back on his feet, Danny Garcia threw a sidewinder as I was saying to my mate he doesn't need to do anything else this round other than keep distance and Alvarez would also have flattened anyone with the punch he caught Khan with.

    As you say, all of them apart from the Prescott one, came after he'd been boxing well and landing. He makes me think of footballers who play a 30 or 40 yard pass and then put their hands on their hips as if their work is complete
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  • Khan doesnt last 5 rounds vs Garcia and I think he gets KO'd by both Pacquiao and Brook... As you said, he hasnt got the concentration to not get properly clamped at some point within the 12 and the aforementioned hit harder than Vargas in Kel's case, and Pac Man just wouldnt let him off the hook.
  • Regarding the Pac Man – it really does depend on what version of the great man turns up for the fight.

    I understand that in his last fight, he was much more like his old self and eased his way to a clear points win.

    However it will take a long time for me to forget how ordinary he was against Jeff Horn, where he even looked to be a little gun shy at times, against a relatively light hitter.

    Think that Khan Vs Pacman is long overdue, and would much prefer that to the Kell Brook fight.
  • Regarding the Pac Man – it really does depend on what version of the great man turns up for the fight.

    I understand that in his last fight, he was much more like his old self and eased his way to a clear points win.

    However it will take a long time for me to forget how ordinary he was against Jeff Horn, where he even looked to be a little gun shy at times, against a relatively light hitter.

    Think that Khan Vs Pacman is long overdue, and would much prefer that to the Kell Brook fight.

    Didn't Pac stop matthaysse in his last fight? His first stoppage win in about 10 years

  • Yup that is correct – knocked him out in the 7th!

    Had thought that it was a points decision for some reason, same logic applies though, can he keep up that level of performance past 40?
  • CAFCsayer said:

    Khan doesnt last 5 rounds vs Garcia and I think he gets KO'd by both Pacquiao and Brook... As you said, he hasnt got the concentration to not get properly clamped at some point within the 12 and the aforementioned hit harder than Vargas in Kel's case, and Pac Man just wouldnt let him off the hook.

    If it’s at 147 then khan beats Brooke , Brooke can’t fight at 147lbs not without being half the fighter he can be
  • CAFCsayer said:

    Khan doesnt last 5 rounds vs Garcia and I think he gets KO'd by both Pacquiao and Brook... As you said, he hasnt got the concentration to not get properly clamped at some point within the 12 and the aforementioned hit harder than Vargas in Kel's case, and Pac Man just wouldnt let him off the hook.

    If it’s at 147 then khan beats Brooke , Brooke can’t fight at 147lbs not without being half the fighter he can be
    Kell will never weigh 147 again in his life! If the fight does happen (and I have great doubts) then it will be at middle or at a push light-middle - and in both scenarios Kell would stop Amir.
  • Kel would stop him mate I totally agree at anything other than 147lbs

    Khan has already said if the fight is to happen it will have to be at 147 , Kel said the wknd that he will fight him at welterweight

    If he makes it to that weight which like you I totally can not see

    Then Brooke loses
  • Have rewatched that Khan fight again, and there is a looseness about his work that would really worry me against the top fighters.

    Someone the other day pointed out that Khan has now had five different trainers, and he has been floored under the tutelage of each of them – obviously there is a major flaw somewhere.

    He seems to have major issues focussing round by round, and I honestly hope that he doesn’t get seriously tagged by any of the big guns in the future, as whatever you think of him personally, he is a game little sod.
  • Have rewatched that Khan fight again, and there is a looseness about his work that would really worry me against the top fighters.

    Someone the other day pointed out that Khan has now had five different trainers, and he has been floored under the tutelage of each of them – obviously there is a major flaw somewhere.

    He seems to have major issues focussing round by round, and I honestly hope that he doesn’t get seriously tagged by any of the big guns in the future, as whatever you think of him personally, he is a game little sod.

    That's exactly his flaw, he stops concentrating. I really don't think his ability to take or not take a punch is the issue, it's the fact he puts himself in perfect range to take big hooks that put people on their arse.

    Some fighters have an alarmingly good ability to take shots clean and they are in the minority.
  • To add to his concentration , i personally feel he doesn't have the power. Even when he gets the good combos in it didnt really look like he hurt Alvarez.

    I Would worry about him stepping up against anyone mentioned, Pacman would be the safer bet as he isn't a big puncher and also on the verge of retiring.
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  • To add to his concentration , i personally feel he doesn't have the power. Even when he gets the good combos in it didnt really look like he hurt Alvarez.

    I Would worry about him stepping up against anyone mentioned, Pacman would be the safer bet as he isn't a big puncher and also on the verge of retiring.

    Ask Sugar Shane Mosley what he thinks of Manny's punching power! He's not in the traditional 'heavy-handed' bunch but his punches explode. He's got a 66% KO record but I accept not so much at Welter.

    Pacman would stop Khan.

  • bobmunro said:

    To add to his concentration , i personally feel he doesn't have the power. Even when he gets the good combos in it didnt really look like he hurt Alvarez.

    I Would worry about him stepping up against anyone mentioned, Pacman would be the safer bet as he isn't a big puncher and also on the verge of retiring.

    Ask Sugar Shane Mosley what he thinks of Manny's punching power! He's not in the traditional 'heavy-handed' bunch but his punches explode. He's got a 66% KO record but I accept not so much at Welter.

    Pacman would stop Khan.

    100% this
  • My reservations on Manny, are heavily influenced by his shocking display versus Jeff Horn – where he was beaten by a club fighter, who has since been firmly put back in his place by Terence Crawford.

    Given that Eddie Hearn is involved, I would lay heavy money on Khan Vs Brook first up, and then Pac Man for Khan is he wins that one.

    The funny thing is that none of those mentioned above are anywhere near the top of the divisions they operate in!!!
  • Would be nice to see Pac fight in the UK at last, even if he’s on his way down.
  • Brooke is chasing the fight far too hard at one stage he was calling out the whole super welterweight and middleweight division

    Now he is solely focused on khan and at 147lb

    You have to ask why , it’s only for the pound note there’s nothing on the line they don’t like each other so what , to me Brooke resents the money khan has made and it stings him that even after kels long run of being unbeaten he has no where near the 0000s in the bank

    It’s a bit like Witter vs Hatton in the respect that domestically it’s a big fight but internationally it holds little value Brooke is not renowned world wide and is not a draw ticket wise outside of Sheffield

    I have heard many stories about the way both fighters live their lives and kels is more in line with Hattons old life style except he doesn’t balloon to 14 stone between fights

    He took the GGG fight and was terribly advised to do so, the damage to his face I refuse to believe is fixed enough to keep fighting

    He took a terrible Beating from Errol Spence jr and should have been stopped way before 11 his face fell to pieces again in that fight

    He has one fight left that’s all and that’s why he is chasing khan it’s a dangerous game at the best of times let alone when your only motivation is $$$$$
  • Brooke is chasing the fight far too hard at one stage he was calling out the whole super welterweight and middleweight division

    Now he is solely focused on khan and at 147lb

    You have to ask why , it’s only for the pound note there’s nothing on the line they don’t like each other so what , to me Brooke resents the money khan has made and it stings him that even after kels long run of being unbeaten he has no where near the 0000s in the bank

    It’s a bit like Witter vs Hatton in the respect that domestically it’s a big fight but internationally it holds little value Brooke is not renowned world wide and is not a draw ticket wise outside of Sheffield

    I have heard many stories about the way both fighters live their lives and kels is more in line with Hattons old life style except he doesn’t balloon to 14 stone between fights

    He took the GGG fight and was terribly advised to do so, the damage to his face I refuse to believe is fixed enough to keep fighting

    He took a terrible Beating from Errol Spence jr and should have been stopped way before 11 his face fell to pieces again in that fight

    He has one fight left that’s all and that’s why he is chasing khan it’s a dangerous game at the best of times let alone when your only motivation is $$$$$

    Brook in the jungle 2019.
  • edited September 2018
    So what are the predictions for tomorrow?

    My take - Canelo is at his peak, GGG probably gone over the top and just on the way down. Golovkin only knows one way to fight (albeit it's a hugely impressive way!) and will likely take the same approach as the first fight. Canelo is, I believe, a more intelligent and versatile boxer and can change, which I think he will - in other words he will learn and adapt more from the first fight than Golovkin will. Both have immense power but both also have granite jaws so I see it going all the way to the judges.

    My prediction - Canelo on points by a couple of rounds.
  • I want Golovkin to win, but the closer we get to fight night the more doubts are creeping in. GGG needs to start better than he did last time out, but with the animosity that's built between them I fear he could start too quickly and then burn out, the 2 years between fights could make the difference at his age. Have to agree that Canelo is the one more likely to have changed gameplan and tactics, will just be interesting to see how he takes a shot now that he looks significantly leaner than last time out.

    Too close to call for me, but I would love a GGG points win with Canelo being put down at least once.
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