Well, the board aren't going to be happy with him releasing that are they. Makes me respect him a bit more though despite his poor form since coming back.
Shows they never intended for him to be apart of the team after that, who would really want to sign a contract like that at the age he was as well, knowing full well you deserve to be playing in the team just won player of the year for, and that he had interest from the premier league.
I don't blame him for not signing that, and shows again how the board really don't care about the club.
I am not excusing his performances since rejoining us, they have been awful, but as my girlfriend pointed out last night, he maybe lacking in a lot of confidence. He has moved from us after playing really well, to a premier league club where he would've been hoping to get a lot more game time than he has, so he's been shipped out to a championship club in Huddersfield where he didn't set the world alight. Went back to West Ham where again he didn't play much, to get sent on loan to MK Dons and eventually with us, in a position that's a lot worse than he left us.
We haven't progressed in the time he has gone, and neither has Diego. He probably is a young player lacking in a lot of confidence.
Whether he is with us or not in future, I hope he has a great career because he was top class when he broke on to the scene and again, another player from our fantastic academy.
I'm still not buying it.. I'm sure they offered him a contract just with us first, but when he refused they offered him the opportunity to play champions league at standard as a last hope of persuading him to stay.
Well that's what any reasonable people would have tried but knowing this bunch it's quite possible!
Looks like he made a great decision. If he'd signed, he would have gone on loan to one of the best teams in Europe. But he didn't, was sold, and has now gone on loan to one of the worst teams in the Championship.,
I'm still not buying it.. I'm sure they offered him a contract just with us first, but when he refused they offered him the opportunity to play champions league at standard as a last hope of persuading him to stay.
Well that's what any reasonable people would have tried but knowing this bunch it's quite possible!
That's what I suppose happened, too. And I thought, and think, it could have been a perfectly reasonable proposal. On its own. The problem is what we now know about how RD has managed both clubs since he made that proposal.
There is a logic, that if you have a network of clubs, that players would go on loan from us to SL, as until he sold them the loans were all the other way
In this case, while I can understand if Diego didn't want to go to SL, and was angry at the suggestion, it's not like being shunted out on loan to one of RD's small clubs, SL would have been a great place for him to learn another style of football, for which he probably would have been suited.
There is a logic, that if you have a network of clubs, that players would go on loan from us to SL, as until he sold them the loans were all the other way
In this case, while I can understand if Diego didn't want to go to SL, and was angry at the suggestion, it's not like being shunted out on loan to one of RD's small clubs, SL would have been a great place for him to learn another style of football, for which he probably would have been suited.
Exactly. The mounting evidence that RD is arrogant, barking mad, and using football for his social experiment, does not cancel out the mounting evidence that Diego Poyet, unlike Jordan Cousins, is a knobhead.
The whole episode from public comments by Gus Poyet and Diego making promises about revelations on twitter when we all knew he was going to go accept a position on much more money than we were ever going to pay, him makes anything he says now look like an excuse - and not terribly reliable.
I didn't have a problem with him moving for more money and/or better opportunities. The thing is that when one does that, they need to prove to have made the correct decision. Based on loan spells with Huddersfield and MK Dons before joining us, and a total of 28 league games played in the last twenty-one months and only five of those for teams that are not likely to be in the third division next season, it does look like it was the wrong decision.
Had he stayed with us and refused to play in Belgium he might have racked up close to three times that number of games by now and might now be in a position to earn a transfer to a Premier League club and get into their side - something that he looks miles away from achieving right now.
The question one needs to ask is 'Is it better to earn £15k a week from 19 to 23 or is it better to earn £80k a week from 23 to 33?'
That's a question that other players in out youth set up need to be considering too. Ironically Poyet had proved to be a role model both for getting into our side, and leaving the club prematurely. Sadly I fear that most 19 year-olds would always take the £15k a week for four years. I probably would have done too, even if I'd have struggled to find a club willing to pay me £15 a week, never mind £15,000!
Confirms if he signed the 2014 contract offered by CAFC, he was probably going on loan to Standard Liege.
Hmmmm.
Just an observation - he could have said no to going to standard
This. And I'm pretty sure it's against eu laws to write in a contract that they can move you abroad at any time... Although I could be wrong on that!
Even if it's not an EU law I doubt that he could be forced to move from Charlton, if that's where his contract is, to another club even if both clubs are owned by the same chap.
The whole episode from public comments by Gus Poyet and Diego making promises about revelations on twitter when we all knew he was going to go accept a position on much more money than we were ever going to pay, him makes anything he says now look like an excuse - and not terribly reliable.
I didn't have a problem with him moving for more money and/or better opportunities. The thing is that when one does that, they need to prove to have made the correct decision. Based on loan spells with Huddersfield and MK Dons before joining us, and a total of 28 league games played in the last twenty-one months and only five of those for teams that are not likely to be in the third division next season, it does look like it was the wrong decision.
Had he stayed with us and refused to play in Belgium he might have racked up close to three times that number of games by now and might now be in a position to earn a transfer to a Premier League club and get into their side - something that he looks miles away from achieving right now.
The question one needs to ask is 'Is it better to earn £15k a week from 19 to 23 or is it better to earn £80k a week from 23 to 33?'
That's a question that other players in out youth set up need to be considering too. Ironically Poyet had proved to be a role model both for getting into our side, and leaving the club prematurely. Sadly I fear that most 19 year-olds would always take the £15k a week for four years. I probably would have done too, even if I'd have struggled to find a club willing to pay me £15 a week, never mind £15,000!
Or he could have stayed with us, earned less, been found out in his second season as an average player who just had a purple patch, never made it to the PL and earned the money he gets now...
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I don't blame him for not signing that, and shows again how the board really don't care about the club.
I am not excusing his performances since rejoining us, they have been awful, but as my girlfriend pointed out last night, he maybe lacking in a lot of confidence. He has moved from us after playing really well, to a premier league club where he would've been hoping to get a lot more game time than he has, so he's been shipped out to a championship club in Huddersfield where he didn't set the world alight. Went back to West Ham where again he didn't play much, to get sent on loan to MK Dons and eventually with us, in a position that's a lot worse than he left us.
We haven't progressed in the time he has gone, and neither has Diego. He probably is a young player lacking in a lot of confidence.
Whether he is with us or not in future, I hope he has a great career because he was top class when he broke on to the scene and again, another player from our fantastic academy.
Well that's what any reasonable people would have tried but knowing this bunch it's quite possible!
When here previously he was everywhere, he wanted the ball the whole time.
Now he's Mr Invisible & hides away and has literally done nothing.
In this case, while I can understand if Diego didn't want to go to SL, and was angry at the suggestion, it's not like being shunted out on loan to one of RD's small clubs, SL would have been a great place for him to learn another style of football, for which he probably would have been suited.
I didn't have a problem with him moving for more money and/or better opportunities. The thing is that when one does that, they need to prove to have made the correct decision. Based on loan spells with Huddersfield and MK Dons before joining us, and a total of 28 league games played in the last twenty-one months and only five of those for teams that are not likely to be in the third division next season, it does look like it was the wrong decision.
Had he stayed with us and refused to play in Belgium he might have racked up close to three times that number of games by now and might now be in a position to earn a transfer to a Premier League club and get into their side - something that he looks miles away from achieving right now.
The question one needs to ask is 'Is it better to earn £15k a week from 19 to 23 or is it better to earn £80k a week from 23 to 33?'
That's a question that other players in out youth set up need to be considering too. Ironically Poyet had proved to be a role model both for getting into our side, and leaving the club prematurely. Sadly I fear that most 19 year-olds would always take the £15k a week for four years. I probably would have done too, even if I'd have struggled to find a club willing to pay me £15 a week, never mind £15,000!
Have also heard that he is not a fan of RD at all apparently.