He has never won Player of The Year and he definitely deserves the recognition. The magic moments at home to Fulham, Sheffield Wednesday and the winner at Birmingham.
Not to mention how it was he who grabbed the rest of the team by the scruff of the neck and made them reimburse the fans at Huddersfield away.
In the long run all this stuff might not keep us up, but he is the one person from the current squad who deserves to have this award next to their name at least once.
He has never won Player of The Year and he definitely deserves the recognition. The magic moments at home to Fulham, Sheffield Wednesday and the winner at Birmingham.
Not to mention how it was he who grabbed the rest of the team by the scruff of the neck and made them reimburse the fans at Huddersfield away.
In the long run all this stuff might not keep us up, but he is the one person from the current squad who deserves to have this award next to their name at least once.
Spot on... Fair enough Chris Solly doesnt like speaking to the media anyway as he's quite a shy lad (so is excused) but it should be between Jackson and Henderson for being the two that remember the fans exist when we moan that we're being ignored.
Plus both players will realise that that they're not being given the award for their excellent performances over the course of the season yet because they've always had the decency to remember we're there
Unless a number of us fans do support the POTY do, then we will give KM just the excuse she needs to cancel it. Once it's gone it's gone. Luckily, a few of us still did attned the BTTV do, so that will hopefully continue. We can't demand our Charlton back if we don't support events that have happened, and been enjoyed, for many years. KM doesn't care about our history, I thought we fans did.
This hands down... Fair enough if people dont want to vote or want to take the piss and make a mockery of votes yet dont start moaning when there isnt another POTY dinner. KM has proven that she doesnt give a shit in stopping events / traditions
Disagree - its about protesting against the club owners/CEO - if the Witch does cancel it, then once they have gone the new owners can reinstate it. Its the big picture people.....
Are we getting new owners within the next couple of years?
The club don't organise this event... the likes of @Fanny Fanackapan do, so to protest against POTY is putting down the hard work and effort they put in.
If you want to protest then go and do it just somewhere else, just dont rain on something that an actual fan works so hard for
But you dont get it do you......and yet another reason why we have no solidarity, actual fans work hard supporting the club, actual fans formed a political party to bring us back to the Valley, actual fans run the POTY awards, so if the actual fans cancel it or dont attend and it gets cancelled, it sends a further message to the board and media.........think less selfishly and look at the big picture......
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
should be Ceballos. The corner he took at Derby alone is deserving of the award. If not Sanogo - I'm reliably informed he scored a penalty in training the other day.
Unless a number of us fans do support the POTY do, then we will give KM just the excuse she needs to cancel it. Once it's gone it's gone. Luckily, a few of us still did attned the BTTV do, so that will hopefully continue. We can't demand our Charlton back if we don't support events that have happened, and been enjoyed, for many years. KM doesn't care about our history, I thought we fans did.
This hands down... Fair enough if people dont want to vote or want to take the piss and make a mockery of votes yet dont start moaning when there isnt another POTY dinner. KM has proven that she doesnt give a shit in stopping events / traditions
Disagree - its about protesting against the club owners/CEO - if the Witch does cancel it, then once they have gone the new owners can reinstate it. Its the big picture people.....
Are we getting new owners within the next couple of years?
The club don't organise this event... the likes of @Fanny Fanackapan do, so to protest against POTY is putting down the hard work and effort they put in.
If you want to protest then go and do it just somewhere else, just dont rain on something that an actual fan works so hard for
But you dont get it do you......and yet another reason why we have no solidarity, actual fans work hard supporting the club, actual fans formed a political party to bring us back to the Valley, actual fans run the POTY awards, so if the actual fans cancel it or dont attend and it gets cancelled, it sends a further message to the board and media.........think less selfishly and look at the big picture......
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
How the hell can you say I'm being selfish when I'm saying dont ruin things for fans who want events to go ahead?
Maybe speak with Fanny herself and see how she'd feel about protests at the POTY?
How can any player honestly be voted as POTY, they have all been crap, (apart from an odd game), if they had played to their full potential, we would not be in the mess we are. Guarantee, whoever you vote for will leave in the summer
Unless a number of us fans do support the POTY do, then we will give KM just the excuse she needs to cancel it. Once it's gone it's gone. Luckily, a few of us still did attned the BTTV do, so that will hopefully continue. We can't demand our Charlton back if we don't support events that have happened, and been enjoyed, for many years. KM doesn't care about our history, I thought we fans did.
This hands down... Fair enough if people dont want to vote or want to take the piss and make a mockery of votes yet dont start moaning when there isnt another POTY dinner. KM has proven that she doesnt give a shit in stopping events / traditions
Disagree - its about protesting against the club owners/CEO - if the Witch does cancel it, then once they have gone the new owners can reinstate it. Its the big picture people.....
Are we getting new owners within the next couple of years?
The club don't organise this event... the likes of @Fanny Fanackapan do, so to protest against POTY is putting down the hard work and effort they put in.
If you want to protest then go and do it just somewhere else, just dont rain on something that an actual fan works so hard for
But you dont get it do you......and yet another reason why we have no solidarity, actual fans work hard supporting the club, actual fans formed a political party to bring us back to the Valley, actual fans run the POTY awards, so if the actual fans cancel it or dont attend and it gets cancelled, it sends a further message to the board and media.........think less selfishly and look at the big picture......
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
How the hell can you say I'm being selfish when I'm saying dont ruin things for fans who want events to go ahead?
Maybe speak with Fanny herself and see how she'd feel about protests at the POTY?
Because they are the minority, and it would be a selfish act to keep this event when all the other protests are going on. Like I say its solidarity and the big picture, its not about a few people who want to have a few pics with a team of footballers who have let themselves and us down. FWIW I was going to attend this year, but have decided against it for the reasons above. The impact if this was cancelled within the media and the embarrassment to the club is worth far more than if it went ahead.
For what he has done this season, in fact I guarantee it would be a lot worse if Jacko wasn't there holding the remnants of this squad together.. For reimbursing the fans, that goal at Fulham, the shef wed game, and Birmingham away. For being wheeled out by KM even though we could all yell he knew it was bullshit. For the class with which he has handled himself throughout all of this. But not just for that, also for all he has done for the club over the last 5 years. And for being proper Charlton.
Other candidates, Hendo, Solly, Cousins.
If anyone outside those 4 gets a vote then it is clearly sarcastic and shouldn't be taken seriously.
For what he has done this season, in fact I guarantee it would be a lot worse if Jacko wasn't there holding the remnants of this squad together.. For reimbursing the fans, that goal at Fulham, the shef wed game, and Birmingham away. For being wheeled out by KM even though we could all yell he knew it was bullshit. For the class with which he has handled himself throughout all of this. But not just for that, also for all he has done for the club over the last 5 years. And for being proper Charlton.
Other candidates, Hendo, Solly, Cousins.
If anyone outside those 4 gets a vote then it is clearly sarcastic and shouldn't be taken seriously.
Without a doubt, JJ, Hendo, Solly or Cousins deserve something.
Unless a number of us fans do support the POTY do, then we will give KM just the excuse she needs to cancel it. Once it's gone it's gone. Luckily, a few of us still did attned the BTTV do, so that will hopefully continue. We can't demand our Charlton back if we don't support events that have happened, and been enjoyed, for many years. KM doesn't care about our history, I thought we fans did.
This hands down... Fair enough if people dont want to vote or want to take the piss and make a mockery of votes yet dont start moaning when there isnt another POTY dinner. KM has proven that she doesnt give a shit in stopping events / traditions
Disagree - its about protesting against the club owners/CEO - if the Witch does cancel it, then once they have gone the new owners can reinstate it. Its the big picture people.....
Are we getting new owners within the next couple of years?
The club don't organise this event... the likes of @Fanny Fanackapan do, so to protest against POTY is putting down the hard work and effort they put in.
If you want to protest then go and do it just somewhere else, just dont rain on something that an actual fan works so hard for
But you dont get it do you......and yet another reason why we have no solidarity, actual fans work hard supporting the club, actual fans formed a political party to bring us back to the Valley, actual fans run the POTY awards, so if the actual fans cancel it or dont attend and it gets cancelled, it sends a further message to the board and media.........think less selfishly and look at the big picture......
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
How the hell can you say I'm being selfish when I'm saying dont ruin things for fans who want events to go ahead?
Maybe speak with Fanny herself and see how she'd feel about protests at the POTY?
Because they are the minority, and it would be a selfish act to keep this event when all the other protests are going on. Like I say its solidarity and the big picture, its not about a few people who want to have a few pics with a team of footballers who have let themselves and us down. FWIW I was going to attend this year, but have decided against it for the reasons above. The impact if this was cancelled within the media and the embarrassment to the club is worth far more than if it went ahead.
The point being made is this won't hurt the club but play right into their hands. They want control of the event, and I think you're hugely overstating the media impact - who would care a fan event wasn't well attended? There's also a risk the fans would come out badly in any story.
If your target is the club, POTY isn't a valid target. It's friendly fire.
Unless a number of us fans do support the POTY do, then we will give KM just the excuse she needs to cancel it. Once it's gone it's gone. Luckily, a few of us still did attned the BTTV do, so that will hopefully continue. We can't demand our Charlton back if we don't support events that have happened, and been enjoyed, for many years. KM doesn't care about our history, I thought we fans did.
This hands down... Fair enough if people dont want to vote or want to take the piss and make a mockery of votes yet dont start moaning when there isnt another POTY dinner. KM has proven that she doesnt give a shit in stopping events / traditions
Disagree - its about protesting against the club owners/CEO - if the Witch does cancel it, then once they have gone the new owners can reinstate it. Its the big picture people.....
Are we getting new owners within the next couple of years?
The club don't organise this event... the likes of @Fanny Fanackapan do, so to protest against POTY is putting down the hard work and effort they put in.
If you want to protest then go and do it just somewhere else, just dont rain on something that an actual fan works so hard for
But you dont get it do you......and yet another reason why we have no solidarity, actual fans work hard supporting the club, actual fans formed a political party to bring us back to the Valley, actual fans run the POTY awards, so if the actual fans cancel it or dont attend and it gets cancelled, it sends a further message to the board and media.........think less selfishly and look at the big picture......
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
How the hell can you say I'm being selfish when I'm saying dont ruin things for fans who want events to go ahead?
Maybe speak with Fanny herself and see how she'd feel about protests at the POTY?
Because they are the minority, and it would be a selfish act to keep this event when all the other protests are going on. Like I say its solidarity and the big picture, its not about a few people who want to have a few pics with a team of footballers who have let themselves and us down. FWIW I was going to attend this year, but have decided against it for the reasons above. The impact if this was cancelled within the media and the embarrassment to the club is worth far more than if it went ahead.
The point being made is this won't hurt the club but play right into their hands. They want control of the event, and I think you're hugely overstating the media impact - who would care a fan event wasn't well attended? There's also a risk the fans would come out badly in any story.
If your target is the club, POTY isn't a valid target. It's friendly fire.
You are wrong and clearly don't work in advertising or marketing! It's how you sell/spin it to the media is what counts. As my post above, make the media understand why it's being cancelled, it's more publicity against the club. Sometimes you have to reach deep for your ammunition. Also not many people care if it's organised by the fan, if spun correctly then it shows what sacrifices the fans are willing to give up for the greater cause and this will damage the club. But it won't happen because there are too many people with too many opinions on what we should do next. As I said we don't have enough solidarity and as long as they can have their cosy back slapping event then that's all that matters, an opportunity missed. There's always next year or whenever RD buggers off.
EDIT - I am right in thinking that this is held on premises owned by the club? So surely that is contradictory, we are protesting about the club and boycotts have been mentioned, but its OK if we use the clubs facilities to host the event...can anyone else see the irony in the above?
What's the deal with Diarra? Is he out for the season?
Pretty sure if he plays another 5 games he'll win the CL Statbank
Statbank should be cancelled and boycotted to show our disgust at how the club is run.
That will show RD and KM.
Who cares if it is run by fans not the club it has to be stopped.
Anyone voting in the statbank is saying that the players are good and Roland is right.
So what if it's been going for years and isn't run by the club or even that many fans enjoy it
#boycottstatbank #misguidedprotest
Class comments there Ben, you can do better than that.
Thanks, I know I can but not so early in the morning ; - )
It is a good example of the ancient Greek form of argument "Reductio ad absurdum"
Fact is the POTY dinner is something we should be supporting MORE not less.
KM wanted it changed and to take control, effectively killing it as an event based on the specious argument that the "playing side" didn't want to do it on a Sunday.
Ian Wallis and Jean/Fanny, as well as other fans forum members, stood up to her and said they wouldn't no longer contribute if that was the case.
KM backed down so it was a victory for the fans.
The POTY vote and event is also an example of how fans can contribute and can run a successful event. It shows KM that we do know what we're doing and we can do it better than her and that really, really annoys her. That's why she wanted to take it over, she can't bear being undermined yet again by the fans.
And part of that annoyance is based on last year when Airman Brown was due to speak about the Valley Party 25 years on. KM and RM told Jean and Fanny to stop Rick speaking and they said "no". As it was, and by Rick's own account, nothing controversial was said and RM thanked AB for acknowledging RMs role post 1992.
We also had events and votes in all the other seasons when we've been relegated since the 1970s. The same arguments were trotted out about no one deserving it but Les Berry won in 1980, John Humphrey in 1990, Mark Kinsella in 1999, Scott Carson in 2007, Nicky Bailey in 2009. Not a bad five a side team : - )
Unless a number of us fans do support the POTY do, then we will give KM just the excuse she needs to cancel it. Once it's gone it's gone. Luckily, a few of us still did attned the BTTV do, so that will hopefully continue. We can't demand our Charlton back if we don't support events that have happened, and been enjoyed, for many years. KM doesn't care about our history, I thought we fans did.
This hands down... Fair enough if people dont want to vote or want to take the piss and make a mockery of votes yet dont start moaning when there isnt another POTY dinner. KM has proven that she doesnt give a shit in stopping events / traditions
Disagree - its about protesting against the club owners/CEO - if the Witch does cancel it, then once they have gone the new owners can reinstate it. Its the big picture people.....
Are we getting new owners within the next couple of years?
The club don't organise this event... the likes of @Fanny Fanackapan do, so to protest against POTY is putting down the hard work and effort they put in.
If you want to protest then go and do it just somewhere else, just dont rain on something that an actual fan works so hard for
But you dont get it do you......and yet another reason why we have no solidarity, actual fans work hard supporting the club, actual fans formed a political party to bring us back to the Valley, actual fans run the POTY awards, so if the actual fans cancel it or dont attend and it gets cancelled, it sends a further message to the board and media.........think less selfishly and look at the big picture......
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
How the hell can you say I'm being selfish when I'm saying dont ruin things for fans who want events to go ahead?
Maybe speak with Fanny herself and see how she'd feel about protests at the POTY?
Because they are the minority, and it would be a selfish act to keep this event when all the other protests are going on. Like I say its solidarity and the big picture, its not about a few people who want to have a few pics with a team of footballers who have let themselves and us down. FWIW I was going to attend this year, but have decided against it for the reasons above. The impact if this was cancelled within the media and the embarrassment to the club is worth far more than if it went ahead.
The point being made is this won't hurt the club but play right into their hands. They want control of the event, and I think you're hugely overstating the media impact - who would care a fan event wasn't well attended? There's also a risk the fans would come out badly in any story.
If your target is the club, POTY isn't a valid target. It's friendly fire.
You are wrong and clearly don't work in advertising or marketing! It's how you sell/spin it to the media is what counts. As my post above, make the media understand why it's being cancelled, it's more publicity against the club. Sometimes you have to reach deep for your ammunition. Also not many people care if it's organised by the fan, if spun correctly then it shows what sacrifices the fans are willing to give up for the greater cause and this will damage the club. But it won't happen because there are too many people with too many opinions on what we should do next. As I said we don't have enough solidarity and as long as they can have their cosy back slapping event then that's all that matters, an opportunity missed. There's always next year or whenever RD buggers off.
EDIT - I am right in thinking that this is held on premises owned by the club? So surely that is contradictory, we are protesting about the club and boycotts have been mentioned, but its OK if we use the clubs facilities to host the event...can anyone else see the irony in the above?
Don't agree with you on this at all. Fans boycotting the POTY event in a season when the club goes down without a fight isn't exactly a story. It would have very little media impact.
Unless a number of us fans do support the POTY do, then we will give KM just the excuse she needs to cancel it. Once it's gone it's gone. Luckily, a few of us still did attned the BTTV do, so that will hopefully continue. We can't demand our Charlton back if we don't support events that have happened, and been enjoyed, for many years. KM doesn't care about our history, I thought we fans did.
This hands down... Fair enough if people dont want to vote or want to take the piss and make a mockery of votes yet dont start moaning when there isnt another POTY dinner. KM has proven that she doesnt give a shit in stopping events / traditions
Disagree - its about protesting against the club owners/CEO - if the Witch does cancel it, then once they have gone the new owners can reinstate it. Its the big picture people.....
Are we getting new owners within the next couple of years?
The club don't organise this event... the likes of @Fanny Fanackapan do, so to protest against POTY is putting down the hard work and effort they put in.
If you want to protest then go and do it just somewhere else, just dont rain on something that an actual fan works so hard for
But you dont get it do you......and yet another reason why we have no solidarity, actual fans work hard supporting the club, actual fans formed a political party to bring us back to the Valley, actual fans run the POTY awards, so if the actual fans cancel it or dont attend and it gets cancelled, it sends a further message to the board and media.........think less selfishly and look at the big picture......
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
How the hell can you say I'm being selfish when I'm saying dont ruin things for fans who want events to go ahead?
Maybe speak with Fanny herself and see how she'd feel about protests at the POTY?
Because they are the minority, and it would be a selfish act to keep this event when all the other protests are going on. Like I say its solidarity and the big picture, its not about a few people who want to have a few pics with a team of footballers who have let themselves and us down. FWIW I was going to attend this year, but have decided against it for the reasons above. The impact if this was cancelled within the media and the embarrassment to the club is worth far more than if it went ahead.
The point being made is this won't hurt the club but play right into their hands. They want control of the event, and I think you're hugely overstating the media impact - who would care a fan event wasn't well attended? There's also a risk the fans would come out badly in any story.
If your target is the club, POTY isn't a valid target. It's friendly fire.
You are wrong and clearly don't work in advertising or marketing! It's how you sell/spin it to the media is what counts. As my post above, make the media understand why it's being cancelled, it's more publicity against the club. Sometimes you have to reach deep for your ammunition. Also not many people care if it's organised by the fan, if spun correctly then it shows what sacrifices the fans are willing to give up for the greater cause and this will damage the club. But it won't happen because there are too many people with too many opinions on what we should do next. As I said we don't have enough solidarity and as long as they can have their cosy back slapping event then that's all that matters, an opportunity missed. There's always next year or whenever RD buggers off.
EDIT - I am right in thinking that this is held on premises owned by the club? So surely that is contradictory, we are protesting about the club and boycotts have been mentioned, but its OK if we use the clubs facilities to host the event...can anyone else see the irony in the above?
Don't agree with you on this at all. Fans boycotting the POTY event in a season when the club goes down without a fight isn't exactly a story. It would have very little media impact.
If you really want to make a story (which, at the end of the season and just before the Euros, is probably unlikely), would a better one not be having a massive over-subscription for the PoTY awards event, particularly if, as seems likely, the unofficial individual boycotts decrease the numbers at games?
It would be rubbing KM's nose in it, and there's no better nose....
Unless a number of us fans do support the POTY do, then we will give KM just the excuse she needs to cancel it. Once it's gone it's gone. Luckily, a few of us still did attned the BTTV do, so that will hopefully continue. We can't demand our Charlton back if we don't support events that have happened, and been enjoyed, for many years. KM doesn't care about our history, I thought we fans did.
This hands down... Fair enough if people dont want to vote or want to take the piss and make a mockery of votes yet dont start moaning when there isnt another POTY dinner. KM has proven that she doesnt give a shit in stopping events / traditions
Disagree - its about protesting against the club owners/CEO - if the Witch does cancel it, then once they have gone the new owners can reinstate it. Its the big picture people.....
Are we getting new owners within the next couple of years?
The club don't organise this event... the likes of @Fanny Fanackapan do, so to protest against POTY is putting down the hard work and effort they put in.
If you want to protest then go and do it just somewhere else, just dont rain on something that an actual fan works so hard for
But you dont get it do you......and yet another reason why we have no solidarity, actual fans work hard supporting the club, actual fans formed a political party to bring us back to the Valley, actual fans run the POTY awards, so if the actual fans cancel it or dont attend and it gets cancelled, it sends a further message to the board and media.........think less selfishly and look at the big picture......
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
How the hell can you say I'm being selfish when I'm saying dont ruin things for fans who want events to go ahead?
Maybe speak with Fanny herself and see how she'd feel about protests at the POTY?
Because they are the minority, and it would be a selfish act to keep this event when all the other protests are going on. Like I say its solidarity and the big picture, its not about a few people who want to have a few pics with a team of footballers who have let themselves and us down. FWIW I was going to attend this year, but have decided against it for the reasons above. The impact if this was cancelled within the media and the embarrassment to the club is worth far more than if it went ahead.
The point being made is this won't hurt the club but play right into their hands. They want control of the event, and I think you're hugely overstating the media impact - who would care a fan event wasn't well attended? There's also a risk the fans would come out badly in any story.
If your target is the club, POTY isn't a valid target. It's friendly fire.
You are wrong and clearly don't work in advertising or marketing! It's how you sell/spin it to the media is what counts. As my post above, make the media understand why it's being cancelled, it's more publicity against the club. Sometimes you have to reach deep for your ammunition. Also not many people care if it's organised by the fan, if spun correctly then it shows what sacrifices the fans are willing to give up for the greater cause and this will damage the club. But it won't happen because there are too many people with too many opinions on what we should do next. As I said we don't have enough solidarity and as long as they can have their cosy back slapping event then that's all that matters, an opportunity missed. There's always next year or whenever RD buggers off.
EDIT - I am right in thinking that this is held on premises owned by the club? So surely that is contradictory, we are protesting about the club and boycotts have been mentioned, but its OK if we use the clubs facilities to host the event...can anyone else see the irony in the above?
Don't agree with you on this at all. Fans boycotting the POTY event in a season when the club goes down without a fight isn't exactly a story. It would have very little media impact.
If you really want to make a story (which, at the end of the season and just before the Euros, is probably unlikely), would a better one not be having a massive over-subscription for the PoTY awards event, particularly if, as seems likely, the unofficial individual boycotts decrease the numbers at games?
It would be rubbing KM's nose in it, and there's no better nose....
Spot on. We want to highlight the difference between an event run by "proper" Charlton people, which ideally should have fans fighting for seats, and her attempt at a "matchday experience" where she can't even give seats away at a fiver! Lets rub her nose in it. Should be our slogan for the event.
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He has never won Player of The Year and he definitely deserves the recognition. The magic moments at home to Fulham, Sheffield Wednesday and the winner at Birmingham.
Not to mention how it was he who grabbed the rest of the team by the scruff of the neck and made them reimburse the fans at Huddersfield away.
In the long run all this stuff might not keep us up, but he is the one person from the current squad who deserves to have this award next to their name at least once.
Plus both players will realise that that they're not being given the award for their excellent performances over the course of the season yet because they've always had the decency to remember we're there
Notwithstanding the fact that not one single player deserves to be called 2016 Player of the Year...it would be an insult to previous winners.
Nobody deserves it this season but he is everything that has been good about supporting Charlton the past few years.
Maybe speak with Fanny herself and see how she'd feel about protests at the POTY?
FWIW I was going to attend this year, but have decided against it for the reasons above.
The impact if this was cancelled within the media and the embarrassment to the club is worth far more than if it went ahead.
he has been as shit as anyone and also a mouthpiece for KM, on top of that he was offering out a fan after the team played dogshit at the weekend.
For what he has done this season, in fact I guarantee it would be a lot worse if Jacko wasn't there holding the remnants of this squad together..
For reimbursing the fans, that goal at Fulham, the shef wed game, and Birmingham away. For being wheeled out by KM even though we could all yell he knew it was bullshit. For the class with which he has handled himself throughout all of this.
But not just for that, also for all he has done for the club over the last 5 years. And for being proper Charlton.
Other candidates, Hendo, Solly, Cousins.
If anyone outside those 4 gets a vote then it is clearly sarcastic and shouldn't be taken seriously.
If your target is the club, POTY isn't a valid target. It's friendly fire.
It's how you sell/spin it to the media is what counts.
As my post above, make the media understand why it's being cancelled, it's more publicity against the club. Sometimes you have to reach deep for your ammunition.
Also not many people care if it's organised by the fan, if spun correctly then it shows what sacrifices the fans are willing to give up for the greater cause and this will damage the club.
But it won't happen because there are too many people with too many opinions on what we should do next. As I said we don't have enough solidarity and as long as they can have their cosy back slapping event then that's all that matters, an opportunity missed.
There's always next year or whenever RD buggers off.
EDIT - I am right in thinking that this is held on premises owned by the club? So surely that is contradictory, we are protesting about the club and boycotts have been mentioned, but its OK if we use the clubs facilities to host the event...can anyone else see the irony in the above?
Pretty sure if he plays another 5 games he'll win the CL Statbank
That will show RD and KM.
Who cares if it is run by fans not the club it has to be stopped.
Anyone voting in the statbank is saying that the players are good and Roland is right.
So what if it's been going for years and isn't run by the club or even that many fans enjoy it
#boycottstatbank
#misguidedprotest
It is a good example of the ancient Greek form of argument "Reductio ad absurdum"
Fact is the POTY dinner is something we should be supporting MORE not less.
KM wanted it changed and to take control, effectively killing it as an event based on the specious argument that the "playing side" didn't want to do it on a Sunday.
Ian Wallis and Jean/Fanny, as well as other fans forum members, stood up to her and said they wouldn't no longer contribute if that was the case.
KM backed down so it was a victory for the fans.
The POTY vote and event is also an example of how fans can contribute and can run a successful event. It shows KM that we do know what we're doing and we can do it better than her and that really, really annoys her. That's why she wanted to take it over, she can't bear being undermined yet again by the fans.
And part of that annoyance is based on last year when Airman Brown was due to speak about the Valley Party 25 years on. KM and RM told Jean and Fanny to stop Rick speaking and they said "no". As it was, and by Rick's own account, nothing controversial was said and RM thanked AB for acknowledging RMs role post 1992.
We also had events and votes in all the other seasons when we've been relegated since the 1970s. The same arguments were trotted out about no one deserving it but Les Berry won in 1980, John Humphrey in 1990, Mark Kinsella in 1999, Scott Carson in 2007, Nicky Bailey in 2009. Not a bad five a side team : - )
It would be rubbing KM's nose in it, and there's no better nose....