Read all on this thread and still confused. How many charges, why admit/plead guilty to two. What other charges are being contested.......If he said he knew she was underage and "groomed" her, what else is there ?
Read all on this thread and still confused. How many charges, why admit/plead guilty to two. What other charges are being contested.......If he said he knew she was underage and "groomed" her, what else is there ?
i believe there is a separate charge of sexual activity with a minor for each act so i think he is contesting how many time he did it rather than that he did it.
This is like when you all thought I was in favour of terrorism...
I like your posts Leuth, and at the risk of being patronising, you appear to have a great education....but sometimes you dont do your self any favours. 2 ears one mouth etc....
I find it utterly bizarre how in this day and age he didn't think about everything being saved for posterity, texts, internet searches etc.
I suppose it's a case of an "When the balls are full, the mind is empty". But disturbingly as an overpaid young bloke with an underage girl.
Can't believe he claimed innocence for so long.
Wasn't it about a year ago that he was accused of getting off with the girl in the nightclub? Why has it taken so long for the trial to actually begin, and taken so long for the actual details of it all to emerge?
Of course it's indefensible. Where have I defended it? I'm making a wider point about exploitation and privilege. This goes beyond paedophilia.
Yes privilege can and does enable exploitation of less privileged people.
Adam Johnson is not an example of that though. He is a paedophile by the definition of the law of the land in that he KNOWINGLY (key word) sexually exploited a starry eyed 15 year old girl with an adolescent crush on him for his own gratification.
By all means discuss privilege and exploitation but don't link it with a calculating, paedophile scumbag like Johnson
Does anyone know if he would have been breaking the law in other countries in the world. (DEFINITELY not trying to defend him - just interested!)
"In Europe, countries who have the age of consent set at 16 include Cyprus, Finland, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland.
For Austria, Germany, Portugal and Italy it is 14, and in France, the Czech Republic, Denmark, and Greece it is 15."
These last 2 pages have been great for potential argument alert, and as a thread don't forget I posted very early on my fact about a cat's happiness if they're grooming and washing themselves. It's a winner all round
A Paedophile is someone who's attracted to pre pubescent children, so this doesn't make him a Paedophile a sex offender though he is.
Correct, though the other two scientific terms aren't generally used. From wiki...
Hebephilia is the strong and persistent adult sexual interest in pubescent (early adolescent) individuals, typically ages 11–14 Ephebophilia, which is the strong and persistent sexual interest to those in later adolescence, approximately 15–19 years old
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How many charges, why admit/plead guilty to two.
What other charges are being contested.......If he said he knew she was underage and "groomed" her, what else is there ?
As Katrien needs to learn, if everyone misunderstands you then it's your fault and not everybody else's.
Frankly, I think you just want to be on the other side of the coin so that you seem profound ... again.
I find it utterly bizarre how in this day and age he didn't think about everything being saved for posterity, texts, internet searches etc.
I suppose it's a case of an "When the balls are full, the mind is empty". But disturbingly as an overpaid young bloke with an underage girl.
Can't believe he claimed innocence for so long.
By coincidence Rolf Harris faces more charges...
Adam Johnson is not an example of that though. He is a paedophile by the definition of the law of the land in that he KNOWINGLY (key word) sexually exploited a starry eyed 15 year old girl with an adolescent crush on him for his own gratification.
By all means discuss privilege and exploitation but don't link it with a calculating, paedophile scumbag like Johnson
I think he's suggesting that even if he couldn't get any girl in the world it's absolutely revolting to be saying those things to a 15 year old...
"In Europe, countries who have the age of consent set at 16 include Cyprus, Finland, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, the Netherlands, Norway, and Switzerland.
For Austria, Germany, Portugal and Italy it is 14, and in France, the Czech Republic, Denmark, and Greece it is 15."
There is no 'other side'. He is awful and deserves punishment. But there is a wider point here, think.
Hebephilia is the strong and persistent adult sexual interest in pubescent (early adolescent) individuals, typically ages 11–14
Ephebophilia, which is the strong and persistent sexual interest to those in later adolescence, approximately 15–19 years old