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Chris Parkes The only CAFC Representative
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Sue feels it deeply, and seems to suggest that the majority of fans are being manipulated by an agenda laden Machiavellian minority.
I don't agree. Let's go back to the start of the season for example, an almost hopeful start, but nearly every supporter recognised how thin we were in central defence, and we needed strengthening. It is not supporters for example that created that problem, or a rabble rousing minority. Nor was it supporters who created the season ticket fiasco. Nor was it me, as an individual who undermined this regime by suggesting to Katrien that the turnover of managers is rather excessive.
It is hard to be on the inside at the moment, dear Olly knows that for sure, but the responsibility for this mess are the regime, not me as a season ticket holder, and the regime ought not to be surprised if their action or inaction gets a reaction.16 -
> (relating to the Sue Parkes some people haven't got a clue comments and are insulting to those that run / own the club)Mackle said:
The unofficial CAFC Facebook page is full of angry comments, all directed at Katrien and Duchatelet. And until recently, Freaye. No-one has ever criticised Chris on there AFAIK, in fact a couple of people claim to know him and view him as a good guy.se9addick said:
We're going to need some quotes guysCardinal Sin said:
And she's blabbing on Facebook like a Fishwife and making her husband look a right Charlie. I have no doubt that Katrien isn't stupid enough to need to be told to stay away she can see and feel it for herself. My money's on her missing next Saturday too as she would be the focal point for some serious outrage.Mackle said:
Some of the tone used on Facebook implied that it was the behaviour of fans that was ruining the club, rather than the owner and CEO.CH4RLTON said:Sues Parke's comments on Facebook were fairy pro regime and anti protest unfortunately as far as I can remember sadly, though I suppose in their positions they have to be really. Chris looked like he is was really biting his lio tbf at the Q & A
Sue was also very unimpressed with Peter Varney for leaking what she felt should have been private and confidential mails.
It's hard to find stuff older than a day because the turnover of new posts is so high, but I've screenshotted one for you SE9.
Straight from the Staprix hymn sheet. So its the 2% argument again, not the absymal strategy of throwing a bunch of players together without consideration to character or whether they will fit the team. I wonder what Sue thinks Curbs would think about the goings on.2 -
Yup, the key word here is fans working within the club. Their employment has to impact on their position. The advantage most of those protesting a fortnight ago has is that they are there because they love the club and all they want in return is to see it succeed and also to be treated with respect. A monthly pay cheque tends to affect your position.WestCountryAddick said:
Clearly some within the club believe all the propaganda fed to them by Meire and Duchatelet. They can't see what's right under their noses. No wonder Roland doesn't want to sell, there are clearly 'fans' working within the club who are telling him what a great job he is doing and his master plan will be all right in the end if those naughty 2% of supporters would just STFU.mogodonman said:
Anyone who seriously believes the problems are caused by the fans is either utterly unaware of the real world or in thrall to RD. The Varney emails needed to be leaked, if only to show to rank arrogance of the same bosses who seem to be rated so highly.Mackle said:
Some of the tone used on Facebook implied that it was the behaviour of fans that was ruining the club, rather than the owner and CEO.CH4RLTON said:Sues Parke's comments on Facebook were fairy pro regime and anti protest unfortunately as far as I can remember sadly, though I suppose in their positions they have to be really. Chris looked like he is was really biting his lio tbf at the Q & A
Sue was also very unimpressed with Peter Varney for leaking what she felt should have been private and confidential.1 -
Absolutely no respect for someone who can post this drivel. The tone reminds me of how someone's mother would react to their daughter or so being criticised. It's patronising, insulting and is almost saying "we know best, go away you common little oiks and be grateful"Mackle said:
The unofficial CAFC Facebook page is full of angry comments, all directed at Katrien and Duchatelet. And until recently, Freaye. No-one has ever criticised Chris on there AFAIK, in fact a couple of people claim to know him and view him as a good guy.se9addick said:
We're going to need some quotes guysCardinal Sin said:
And she's blabbing on Facebook like a Fishwife and making her husband look a right Charlie. I have no doubt that Katrien isn't stupid enough to need to be told to stay away she can see and feel it for herself. My money's on her missing next Saturday too as she would be the focal point for some serious outrage.Mackle said:
Some of the tone used on Facebook implied that it was the behaviour of fans that was ruining the club, rather than the owner and CEO.CH4RLTON said:Sues Parke's comments on Facebook were fairy pro regime and anti protest unfortunately as far as I can remember sadly, though I suppose in their positions they have to be really. Chris looked like he is was really biting his lio tbf at the Q & A
Sue was also very unimpressed with Peter Varney for leaking what she felt should have been private and confidential mails.
It's hard to find stuff older than a day because the turnover of new posts is so high, but I've screenshotted one for you SE9.
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Sue Parkes is a moron.20
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Very very good point.mogodon said:
Yup, the key word here is fans working within the club. Their employment has to impact on their position. The advantage most of those protesting a fortnight ago has is that they are there because they love the club and all they want in return is to see it succeed and also to be treated with respect. A monthly pay cheque tends to affect your position.WestCountryAddick said:
Clearly some within the club believe all the propaganda fed to them by Meire and Duchatelet. They can't see what's right under their noses. No wonder Roland doesn't want to sell, there are clearly 'fans' working within the club who are telling him what a great job he is doing and his master plan will be all right in the end if those naughty 2% of supporters would just STFU.mogodonman said:
Anyone who seriously believes the problems are caused by the fans is either utterly unaware of the real world or in thrall to RD. The Varney emails needed to be leaked, if only to show to rank arrogance of the same bosses who seem to be rated so highly.Mackle said:
Some of the tone used on Facebook implied that it was the behaviour of fans that was ruining the club, rather than the owner and CEO.CH4RLTON said:Sues Parke's comments on Facebook were fairy pro regime and anti protest unfortunately as far as I can remember sadly, though I suppose in their positions they have to be really. Chris looked like he is was really biting his lio tbf at the Q & A
Sue was also very unimpressed with Peter Varney for leaking what she felt should have been private and confidential.
"Turkey's don't vote for Christmas". Not that our fans are turkeys but I don't think anyone would happily do something that gets them sacked for gross misconduct.
A lot of employers take a very dim view of employees putting negative things on social media that have the potential to create a brand issue.0 -
I thought yesterday and Tuesday made my blood boil, but that someone can post such arrogant tripe has tipped me over the edge. So the owner knows best, children, and that nice Mr Murray is nice, and if you are naughty and dare to make noises and be nasty to that nice Mr Roland then he will walk away and you oiks will have no club. So sit down, shut up and enjoy what is being served to you. And, above all, be grateful.
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Woah there people. I might not agree with what this lady has posted, but it's just her view, same as any other. Let's not paint her out to be the enemy here, even if you think she is misguided.
She's just a fan, same as us, and she isn't responsible for the mess we are in.16 -
She's not my enemy, I don't know her. But if that's an indication of the mindset within the club - especially the view of those who protest - then we are on the road to hell.Off_it said:Woah there people. I might not agree with what this lady has posted, but it's just her view, same as any other. Let's not paint her out to be the enemy here, even if you think she is misguided.
She's just a fan, same as us, and she isn't responsible for the mess we are in.7 -
Of course but with the I know best attitude she displays to other fans, she can expect a bit of stick.Off_it said:Woah there people. I might not agree with what this lady has posted, but it's just her view, same as any other. Let's not paint her out to be the enemy here, even if you think she is misguided.
She's just a fan, same as us, and she isn't responsible for the mess we are in.2 -
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Truly idiotic last sentence in that screenshot. But then again when you get a free lunch and travel with the players you're not going to speak out against the regime.Mackle said:
The unofficial CAFC Facebook page is full of angry comments, all directed at Katrien and Duchatelet. And until recently, Freaye. No-one has ever criticised Chris on there AFAIK, in fact a couple of people claim to know him and view him as a good guy.se9addick said:
We're going to need some quotes guysCardinal Sin said:
And she's blabbing on Facebook like a Fishwife and making her husband look a right Charlie. I have no doubt that Katrien isn't stupid enough to need to be told to stay away she can see and feel it for herself. My money's on her missing next Saturday too as she would be the focal point for some serious outrage.Mackle said:
Some of the tone used on Facebook implied that it was the behaviour of fans that was ruining the club, rather than the owner and CEO.CH4RLTON said:Sues Parke's comments on Facebook were fairy pro regime and anti protest unfortunately as far as I can remember sadly, though I suppose in their positions they have to be really. Chris looked like he is was really biting his lio tbf at the Q & A
Sue was also very unimpressed with Peter Varney for leaking what she felt should have been private and confidential mails.
It's hard to find stuff older than a day because the turnover of new posts is so high, but I've screenshotted one for you SE9.4 -
Chris Parkes has been working at Charlton I think the whole time I've supported the club and I have never heard a bad, or even critical word said against him. He has always come across a as fan and an asset to the Club.
I will not criticise his wife (though she has been publicly critical of CL in the past) of her views of being critical of the protests / protesters and how grateful we should all be to have Roland, as she is perfectly intitled to that view.
However, Ive always thought though her leading involvement in a Facebook group was a bit of a conflict of interest, particularly as anyone who has visited it will tell you the boundaries on there are about a thousand times wider than what we moderate to on here. My own view is I don't think it is fitting for a senior employees wife to be as strongly associated to something with such content.
I also think she puts herself in a position where she stresses most of the time that Chris doesn't tell her a thing and she is as in the dark of Charlton news as everyone else, then occasionally slips in retorts like "if the fans knew the truth" etc. As soon as you cross a line where you are publicly critical of supporters when you are associated with the Club or court certain privileges that the average Joe doesn't, you will immediately find you've put people's backs up.
The Parkes though are by no means the enemy in any way, and really should not be the target for any form of abuse regardless of Sue's thoughts or words.52 -
The term 'Ivory Towers' springs to mind.
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Sounds a bitter lady.0
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All Charlton fans are equal but some more equal than others. Hate this sort of snobbery and looking down noses at fellow supporters that seems to exist at our club in abundance.man_at_milletts said:The term 'Ivory Towers' springs to mind.
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Sue Parkes statement looks bad that big. I take what AFKA Bartram has said above but that Facebook statement is really ill judged.
Equating love of the club with love of Meire, Murray & Duchatelet is totally incorrect. Duchatelet, Meire and Murray are not Charlton Athletic, just badly perfoming stewards and guardians mismanaging the club.
Its statements such as Sue's above that misinforms Katrien Meire that she can continue to do what she is doing. It all goes back to treating supporters like children. What are the reasons behind the decisions that we are not grown up enough to understand ?
What about the offer to buy the club then via Peter Varney ? So annoying that those emails were released skewering the argument that Charlton supporters have to feel eternally 'lucky' recipients of Duchatelets' benign charity and genorisity.5 -
Agree with this. Which is why I was very surprised when Sue had a go at Peter Varney over the VOTV article and the email leak, using that Facebook group.AFKABartram said:However, Ive always thought though her leading involvement in a Facebook group was a bit of a conflict of interest, particularly as anyone who has visited it will tell you the boundaries on there are about a thousand times wider than what we moderate to on here. My own view is I don't think it is fitting for a senior employees wife to be as strongly associated to something with such content.
It would have made much more sense to just not comment at all.11 -
That's the Georgio Morodor tune from Neverending Story I think!man_at_milletts said:The term 'Ivory Towers' springs to mind.
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Chris and Sue travel to away games in their own car.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Truly idiotic last sentence in that screenshot. But then again when you get a free lunch and travel with the players you're not going to speak out against the regime.Mackle said:
The unofficial CAFC Facebook page is full of angry comments, all directed at Katrien and Duchatelet. And until recently, Freaye. No-one has ever criticised Chris on there AFAIK, in fact a couple of people claim to know him and view him as a good guy.se9addick said:
We're going to need some quotes guysCardinal Sin said:
And she's blabbing on Facebook like a Fishwife and making her husband look a right Charlie. I have no doubt that Katrien isn't stupid enough to need to be told to stay away she can see and feel it for herself. My money's on her missing next Saturday too as she would be the focal point for some serious outrage.Mackle said:
Some of the tone used on Facebook implied that it was the behaviour of fans that was ruining the club, rather than the owner and CEO.CH4RLTON said:Sues Parke's comments on Facebook were fairy pro regime and anti protest unfortunately as far as I can remember sadly, though I suppose in their positions they have to be really. Chris looked like he is was really biting his lio tbf at the Q & A
Sue was also very unimpressed with Peter Varney for leaking what she felt should have been private and confidential mails.
It's hard to find stuff older than a day because the turnover of new posts is so high, but I've screenshotted one for you SE9.0 -
Wonder what milo rates the club pay?Algarveaddick said:
Chris and Sue travel to away games in their own car.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Truly idiotic last sentence in that screenshot. But then again when you get a free lunch and travel with the players you're not going to speak out against the regime.Mackle said:
The unofficial CAFC Facebook page is full of angry comments, all directed at Katrien and Duchatelet. And until recently, Freaye. No-one has ever criticised Chris on there AFAIK, in fact a couple of people claim to know him and view him as a good guy.se9addick said:
We're going to need some quotes guysCardinal Sin said:
And she's blabbing on Facebook like a Fishwife and making her husband look a right Charlie. I have no doubt that Katrien isn't stupid enough to need to be told to stay away she can see and feel it for herself. My money's on her missing next Saturday too as she would be the focal point for some serious outrage.Mackle said:
Some of the tone used on Facebook implied that it was the behaviour of fans that was ruining the club, rather than the owner and CEO.CH4RLTON said:Sues Parke's comments on Facebook were fairy pro regime and anti protest unfortunately as far as I can remember sadly, though I suppose in their positions they have to be really. Chris looked like he is was really biting his lio tbf at the Q & A
Sue was also very unimpressed with Peter Varney for leaking what she felt should have been private and confidential mails.
It's hard to find stuff older than a day because the turnover of new posts is so high, but I've screenshotted one for you SE9.5 -
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But her view isn't the "same as any other". It's an insight into the thinking of those in senior positions within the football club, especially worrying in this instance as the Parkes are supposed to be supporters. I get that Katrien might not understand why what's going on is so abhorrent to Charlton supporters, but it seems from Sue's (very badly advised) Facebook posts that no one on the payroll gets it.Off_it said:Woah there people. I might not agree with what this lady has posted, but it's just her view, same as any other. Let's not paint her out to be the enemy here, even if you think she is misguided.
She's just a fan, same as us, and she isn't responsible for the mess we are in.5 -
My mistake I thought I'd read it on here or elsewhere about them getting the players' coach. Nothing personal at all against her and vitriol is misplaced if directed at her or any non board members at the club. At the same time I stand by my comment that it's not a very productive comment and shows there is a big divide between some of the fans mentality. Cannot see how anyone can allay ANY blame to our fans for the shite that's being served up or has occurred under these lot and it strikes of delusion. People are turning up to support the team despite feeling furious and utterly humiliated by this regime. The Board does not deserve this club's supporters as fans and to apportion blame to them is ridiculous.Algarveaddick said:
Chris and Sue travel to away games in their own car.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Truly idiotic last sentence in that screenshot. But then again when you get a free lunch and travel with the players you're not going to speak out against the regime.Mackle said:
The unofficial CAFC Facebook page is full of angry comments, all directed at Katrien and Duchatelet. And until recently, Freaye. No-one has ever criticised Chris on there AFAIK, in fact a couple of people claim to know him and view him as a good guy.se9addick said:
We're going to need some quotes guysCardinal Sin said:
And she's blabbing on Facebook like a Fishwife and making her husband look a right Charlie. I have no doubt that Katrien isn't stupid enough to need to be told to stay away she can see and feel it for herself. My money's on her missing next Saturday too as she would be the focal point for some serious outrage.Mackle said:
Some of the tone used on Facebook implied that it was the behaviour of fans that was ruining the club, rather than the owner and CEO.CH4RLTON said:Sues Parke's comments on Facebook were fairy pro regime and anti protest unfortunately as far as I can remember sadly, though I suppose in their positions they have to be really. Chris looked like he is was really biting his lio tbf at the Q & A
Sue was also very unimpressed with Peter Varney for leaking what she felt should have been private and confidential mails.
It's hard to find stuff older than a day because the turnover of new posts is so high, but I've screenshotted one for you SE9.5 -
But she's not on the payroll, is she? She's just a fan, same as any other.1
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Agree mate but from what I recall from when I used to be on facebook the approach of "I know something you don't know so your concerns and points are invalid" was oft adopted which rubs people up the wrong way particularly when moderating the page.Off_it said:But she's not on the payroll, is she? She's just a fan, same as any other.
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If she genuinely thinks the fans are the problem, she can do one6
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If you drip-feed suggestions all the time that you are privy to the way things are happening behind the scenes, and then belittle protesting fans as ignorant and actually harmful to the vision of the owner (which I would suggest a majority of fans, and increasingly the media, think is wrong) then you must expect to be criticised. Were Ms Parkes to offer a view on how Meire/Murray going to ground, why the club refuses to communicate with fans etc and how this is to the greater good of CAFC, then I would be interested to listen.3
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I want to know more about laundry basketgate. What is the fallout, what was the reaction, and if any new more fragrant laundry baskets have been ordered. An insider would know this stuff.3
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Ha ha, agree! I thought that's why you started giving this place a miss?RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
All Charlton fans are equal but some more equal than others. Hate this sort of snobbery and looking down noses at fellow supporters that seems to exist at our club in abundance.man_at_milletts said:The term 'Ivory Towers' springs to mind.
In case you missed it, the Valley Gold thread is a particular CL "classic" that will give you that familiar warm (sickly) feeling back!
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