Quite a sad state of affairs when we're happier with the best of a bad bunch. Why should we accept this? Let's carry on and win this thing by forcing them out.
While I will certainly feel a sense of relief is Riga is replacing Fraeye, i would nevertheless be obliged if you would ask the following questions at his first press conference
1. It appears you wanted to stay at Charlton last time, yet RD let you go. He subsequently brought you back and let you go again from Standard. Why do you feel able to work for him yet again?
2.How do you feel about the suggestions (encouraged by the man himself) that Karel Fraeye was integral to your success here last time. What (if appropriate) will be the division of responsibilities between the two of you this time?
3. How would you summarise your latest spell at Standard? Why did RD bring you in, and did you succeed in the objectives he set you? If so, why did he not retain you?
4. What can you tell us about the criminal investigation involving you and the Standard player Jonathan Legeare?. We don't expect you to comment on the case in detail, but if it is still open, can you understand why people would be nervous about your modus operandi, until such time as the investigation is closed and you are deemed innocent?
Of course the same questions and a shedload more should be asked of KM...
This is something that ought not to be dodged.
Could someone give a bit more detail about this? I tried to Google it, but all I could find was that Legeare had a fondness for driving into buildings whilst drunk.
Beggars belief that during the "interim" period that the best they can come up with is going back to the network.
Unless the intention was to appoint Fraeye full time, and this is a panic decision brought about to end the protests, negative media coverage (including Peter Varney), and as knee jerk to current form?
i would rather go down to league one if it would guarantee the club getting rid of RD,KM and kf rather than for us to scrape survival with Riga and go round and round and round and round like a tumble drier out of control full of crap and going nowhere fast,like a bunch of headless chickens with no direction,panicking every time we get to december awaiting the next quick fix to get us out of the mire or meire !!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAFC FANS DO NOT SETTLE FOR THIS,KEEP UP THE PROTESTS, BOYCOTT THE GAMES IF NECESSARY BUT DO NOT PROVIDE A PLATFORM OF OH WELL THAT WILL DO FOR NOW MEDIOCRITY. WE STARTED A PROTEST, WE HAVE A VOICE, LETS SEE THE JOB THROUGH AND GET THESE TIME WASTERS OUT!!!
i would rather go down to league one if it would guarantee the club getting rid of RD,KM and kf rather than for us to scrape survival with Riga and go round and round and round and round like a tumble drier out of control full of crap and going nowhere fast,like a bunch of headless chickens with no direction,panicking every time we get to december awaiting the next quick fix to get us out of the mire or meire !!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAFC FANS DO NOT SETTLE FOR THIS,KEEP UP THE PROTESTS, BOYCOTT THE GAMES IF NECESSARY BUT DO NOT PROVIDE A PLATFORM OF OH WELL THAT WILL DO FOR NOW MEDIOCRITY. WE STARTED A PROTEST, WE HAVE A VOICE, LETS SEE THE JOB THROUGH AND GET THESE TIME WASTERS OUT!!!
Even if true it solves nothing, Riga worked once but it don't mean he will again, lightening rarely strikes twice, even if he did keep us up hailing him a 2 time club hero he'll be released at the end of the season to be replaced by a permanent Belgian bloke that none of us would have heard of with no backing and no championship experience and we'll be back here in the same position this time next year!
Riga worked once, but lightning doesn't strike twice ?
Sorry but that is absolute bull. On this basis we shouldn't appoint anyone that's ever been successful.
Just appoint failures ?
Did you read it all? Bottom line is I liked Riga, most did but he was lucky when he was appointed he had games in hand too, the lightening striking twice comment was about the luck he had. But as I said even if he succeeds he'd be replaced in the close season anyway.
Ffs, you don't have to be a genius to work out that they are just trying to appease "customers" to stop the protests. They read these boards they know we all loved Riga, hence my whole post which says this solves nothing.
If Riga wasn't deemed good enough before, then why bring him back? Couldn't make it up................................................... oh hang on, we're owned and staffed by Belgian tossers with blinkers on.
Riga better than Fraeye and if that's all we can get, then fine
In the weeks since Luzon went, and in fact back to when the board started to get an itchy trigger finger with him, how can the Network be all we can get?
If Riga comes back then he is an actual moron. He knows that he will have no input in signings and has been screwed over by Duchatelet twice already.
Managers/coaches have an average 12 month in charge.
So you're not secure anywhere, so why not ? He liked it at Charlton and wanted to stay on.
True, sacked by the same owner three times though? Twice by Standard Liege and basically sacked once by us. I can't think of anyone who would come back three times, he's either a mate or very desperate.
The thing that really annoys me is that I can imagine Miere and Murray getting together and deciding how to appease us, the brain dead peasant customers. If Cawley is correct then I think this is their answer.
Riga better than Fraeye and if that's all we can get, then fine
In the weeks since Luzon went, and in fact back to when the board started to get an itchy trigger finger with him, how can the Network be all we can get?
Riga better than Fraeye and if that's all we can get, then fine
In the weeks since Luzon went, and in fact back to when the board started to get an itchy trigger finger with him, how can the Network be all we can get?
So much for "we have made mistakes".
It's all we can get because it's all RD will give ...whilst he is here
I am just tired of all this nonsense, for better or worse, whatever league we are in, I just want a regular football club back to support.
So even if Riga does keep us up, which I hope he does, the battle that really must be won involves getting a new owner, so we must not be placated this time, whatever happens on the pitch.
On the assumption they will not yet appoint a British or Championship experienced manager it has to be a step forward from KF.
A little step forward only but better than nothing if true.
Riga is a Championship experienced manager. He kept us up 2 years ago, with a worse squad and he even had a spell at that other basket case Blackpool.
Yes he has experience as a Championship manager (Les Reed is a Premiership experienced manager) but he hasn't even managed a full season combining his two Championship jobs , he had a worse record than Lee Clark did at Blackpool He done a brilliant job keeping us up and it is open to debate which are better squads because I'm sure we had produced more points per game with the last lot before he arrived .
He is a better option than Fraeye that's about the long and short of it
I BET THOSE THAT STOOD FOR THE PARTY THAT FOUGHT TO GET THE VALLEY BACK IN 1992 DIDNT SETTLE FOR MEDIOCRITY,WHY SHOULD WE!! WE NEED THIS BOARD OUT WE NEED THIS MANAGER OUT WE NEED A PROPER MANAGER IN WE NEED TO KEEP OUR VOICES HEARD UNTIL WE BECOME CHARLTON ATHLETIC AGAIN NOT SOME SUB STANDARD JOKE OF A CLUB!!
So we are back to where we were 2 years ago albeit worse off. No ambition or progress at this club. I can't be the only one fuming at this?
He may keep us up but other than that no Charlton supporter should be happy at this. It is another two fingers up at us and an insistence that their way is best. Riga is not the man to take this club forwards nor are the owners.
They've realised the strong possibility we're going down and have repeated the Riga appointment in the hope it yields the same result....i.e. we just stay up and the fans are so relieved at that they're duped into handing over season ticket money after swallowing the shit that Murray will be peddled out to tell us that they've learned and next season will be different.
I fucking hate this board and we need them gone. This is another sham appointment and unless we want this Groundhog Day every season we need to get them out. Morons.
What we want, is to stay up & survive comfortably in The Championship, without having continual relegation fights.
A realistic shot at The Prem, is a nice to have, probably by way of the play offs.
So yes it's a crazy merry go round, but Riga is the one positive so far, so I'm really pleased if he returns.
i would rather go down to league one if it would guarantee the club getting rid of RD,KM and kf rather than for us to scrape survival with Riga and go round and round and round and round like a tumble drier out of control full of crap and going nowhere fast,like a bunch of headless chickens with no direction,panicking every time we get to december awaiting the next quick fix to get us out of the mire or meire !!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAFC FANS DO NOT SETTLE FOR THIS,KEEP UP THE PROTESTS, BOYCOTT THE GAMES IF NECESSARY BUT DO NOT PROVIDE A PLATFORM OF OH WELL THAT WILL DO FOR NOW MEDIOCRITY. WE STARTED A PROTEST, WE HAVE A VOICE, LETS SEE THE JOB THROUGH AND GET THESE TIME WASTERS OUT!!!
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Unless the intention was to appoint Fraeye full time, and this is a panic decision brought about to end the protests, negative media coverage (including Peter Varney), and as knee jerk to current form?
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CAFC FANS DO NOT SETTLE FOR THIS,KEEP UP THE PROTESTS, BOYCOTT THE GAMES IF NECESSARY BUT DO NOT PROVIDE A PLATFORM OF OH WELL THAT WILL DO FOR NOW MEDIOCRITY.
WE STARTED A PROTEST, WE HAVE A VOICE, LETS SEE THE JOB THROUGH AND GET THESE TIME WASTERS OUT!!!
What gets me is the amount of loyalty all these guys show to RD despite the fact that he treats them like servants - they have no self respect.
The same way we shouldn't be in this mess now, but we are.
Jose Riga is a Roland puppet - he has hired him three times, soon to be four by the sounds of it. On that basis alone he won't be getting my support
Ffs, you don't have to be a genius to work out that they are just trying to appease "customers" to stop the protests. They read these boards they know we all loved Riga, hence my whole post which says this solves nothing.
Was thinking that. But now realise because the people he leans on to help are no marks.
Any person worth their salt wouldn't touch him.
So much for "we have made mistakes".
The thing that really annoys me is that I can imagine Miere and Murray getting together and deciding how to appease us, the brain dead peasant customers. If Cawley is correct then I think this is their answer.
So even if Riga does keep us up, which I hope he does, the battle that really must be won involves getting a new owner, so we must not be placated this time, whatever happens on the pitch.
He done a brilliant job keeping us up and it is open to debate which are better squads because I'm sure we had produced more points per game with the last lot before he arrived .
He is a better option than Fraeye that's about the long and short of it
WE NEED THIS BOARD OUT
WE NEED THIS MANAGER OUT
WE NEED A PROPER MANAGER IN
WE NEED TO KEEP OUR VOICES HEARD UNTIL WE BECOME CHARLTON ATHLETIC AGAIN NOT SOME SUB STANDARD JOKE OF A CLUB!!
Yes.
Sold.
A realistic shot at The Prem, is a nice to have, probably by way of the play offs.
So yes it's a crazy merry go round, but Riga is the one positive so far, so I'm really pleased if he returns.