They are progressing, academy on track, relegation on track Once they have established the club in League 1 possible even league 2 it should be easier to shop window the academy youngsters and sell them on at a profit. Simple break even. What about the supporters? We are just a nuisance, a footballer factory doesn't need annoying plebs whinging about a once proud club, history blah boring blah. So there you have it folks, now you know your place put or shut up.
That is the way I feel we are valued by these people and it's breaking my heart. I used to have the tingle when a smelt the fried onions and burgers on match day at the valley. Now days I just wonder why I bother, maybe a wont for much longer, we will see.
But being in at least the Championship makes our academy much more attractive to players and parents than being a L1 club. The higher the level a player plays at, the higher the transfer fee as well.
There are also much quicker and cheaper ways to get relegated than the revolving door policy we have had on players and managers since Roland took over.
I'm not sure what the plan is but I'm pretty sure is nothing as clandestine as thickandthin is suggesting.
I honestly do not know where this journey is going to end, not just our league position but the whole fabric of our club. JJ says that keep changing coaches is not helpful; he is right but this man looks out of his depth. We have a world cup winner in our side plus players that could be going to the Euros. They expect and demand to have a coach who knows what he is doing.
I honestly do not know where this journey is going to end, not just our league position but the whole fabric of our club. JJ says that keep changing coaches is not helpful; he is right but this man looks out of his depth. We have a world cup winner in our side plus players that could be going to the Euros. They expect and demand to have a coach who knows what he is doing.
Players at any age and level want a manager/coach who they can look up to, respect and ultimately learn/develop under.
It is no surprise that the whole first team squad have pretty much given up the fight already when they have this inexperienced, clueless clown in charge! How can somebody with his lack of experience and knowledge of football at the top level command the respect needed from professional footballers to succeed???
As I have posted previously, we could buy 4-5 new top level championship players in January to improve the quality of the squad but if you have this clown in charge it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. You need the new additions along with an experienced manager/head coach who will instantly earn the respect of the whole squad,including the likes of JJ, Diarra and JBG as the most experienced members of the squad. This type of appointment would hopefully get the players and fans back on side in the short term and lead the fight for survival for the rest of the season.
This isn't going to happen under RD so we are basically screwed. I have already resigned myself to watching Charlton in league 1 next season.
I honestly do not know where this journey is going to end, not just our league position but the whole fabric of our club. JJ says that keep changing coaches is not helpful; he is right but this man looks out of his depth. We have a world cup winner in our side plus players that could be going to the Euros. They expect and demand to have a coach who knows what he is doing.
Players at any age and level want a manager/coach who they can look up to, respect and ultimately learn/develop under.
It is no surprise that the whole first team squad have pretty much given up the fight already when they have this inexperienced, clueless clown in charge! How can somebody with his lack of experience and knowledge of football at the top level command the respect needed from professional footballers to succeed???
As I have posted previously, we could buy 4-5 new top level championship players in January to improve the quality of the squad but if you have this clown in charge it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. You need the new additions along with an experienced manager/head coach who will instantly earn the respect of the whole squad,including the likes of JJ, Diarra and JBG as the most experienced members of the squad. This type of appointment would hopefully get the players and fans back on side in the short term and lead the fight for survival for the rest of the season.
This isn't going to happen under RD so we are basically screwed. I have already resigned myself to watching Charlton in league 1 next season.
I hope you are wrong; however, I fear you are right
I honestly do not know where this journey is going to end, not just our league position but the whole fabric of our club. JJ says that keep changing coaches is not helpful; he is right but this man looks out of his depth. We have a world cup winner in our side plus players that could be going to the Euros. They expect and demand to have a coach who knows what he is doing.
Players at any age and level want a manager/coach who they can look up to, respect and ultimately learn/develop under.
It is no surprise that the whole first team squad have pretty much given up the fight already when they have this inexperienced, clueless clown in charge! How can somebody with his lack of experience and knowledge of football at the top level command the respect needed from professional footballers to succeed???
As I have posted previously, we could buy 4-5 new top level championship players in January to improve the quality of the squad but if you have this clown in charge it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. You need the new additions along with an experienced manager/head coach who will instantly earn the respect of the whole squad,including the likes of JJ, Diarra and JBG as the most experienced members of the squad. This type of appointment would hopefully get the players and fans back on side in the short term and lead the fight for survival for the rest of the season.
This isn't going to happen under RD so we are basically screwed. I have already resigned myself to watching Charlton in league 1 next season.
I hope you are wrong; however, I fear you are right
I honestly do not know where this journey is going to end, not just our league position but the whole fabric of our club. JJ says that keep changing coaches is not helpful; he is right but this man looks out of his depth. We have a world cup winner in our side plus players that could be going to the Euros. They expect and demand to have a coach who knows what he is doing.
Players at any age and level want a manager/coach who they can look up to, respect and ultimately learn/develop under.
It is no surprise that the whole first team squad have pretty much given up the fight already when they have this inexperienced, clueless clown in charge! How can somebody with his lack of experience and knowledge of football at the top level command the respect needed from professional footballers to succeed???
As I have posted previously, we could buy 4-5 new top level championship players in January to improve the quality of the squad but if you have this clown in charge it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. You need the new additions along with an experienced manager/head coach who will instantly earn the respect of the whole squad,including the likes of JJ, Diarra and JBG as the most experienced members of the squad. This type of appointment would hopefully get the players and fans back on side in the short term and lead the fight for survival for the rest of the season.
This isn't going to happen under RD so we are basically screwed. I have already resigned myself to watching Charlton in league 1 next season.
Para 2 is bang on. Players will soon work out if a coach is talking shite. They are probably waiting for the next one, or a chance to move on. Tony watt has already escaped, and I don't blame him.
Interesting quote from Karren Brady on TV this morning referring to supporters of a football club "if they [supporters] don't feel engaged with the club and don't feel the club is being run the right way and if they don't see the future looking bright then they stop supporting you, so part and parcel of running a successful football club is accepting it is not a monopoly, it's a responsibility". How very true and would love to this quote on a placard on the gates at the Valley for KM to see?
They are progressing, academy on track, relegation on track Once they have established the club in League 1 possible even league 2 it should be easier to shop window the academy youngsters and sell them on at a profit. Simple break even. What about the supporters? We are just a nuisance, a footballer factory doesn't need annoying plebs whinging about a once proud club, history blah boring blah. So there you have it folks, now you know your place put or shut up.
That is the way I feel we are valued by these people and it's breaking my heart. I used to have the tingle when a smelt the fried onions and burgers on match day at the valley. Now days I just wonder why I bother, maybe a wont for much longer, we will see.
But being in at least the Championship makes our academy much more attractive to players and parents than being a L1 club. The higher the level a player plays at, the higher the transfer fee as well.
There are also much quicker and cheaper ways to get relegated than the revolving door policy we have had on players and managers since Roland took over.
I'm not sure what the plan is but I'm pretty sure is nothing as clandestine as thickandthin is suggesting.
TBH neither do I, but the whole situation seems to defy logic to such an extent could you honestly rule anything out?
Like most of us I am so pissed off the only amusement I can get right now is trying to work out the strategy of a bunch of complete idiots
Interesting quote from Karren Brady on TV this morning referring to supporters of a football club "if (supporters) they don't feel engaged with the club and don't feel the club is being run the right way and if they don't see the future looking bright then they stop supporting you, so part and parcel of running a successful football club is accepting it is not a monopoly, it's a responsibility". How very true and would love to this quote on a placard on the gates at the Valley for KM to see?
I saw that. Absolutely that needs to get before KM. Might be something the Trust could communicate effectively.
As Meire reminded us neatly a year ago at the time of the Luzon appointment debacle:
“Of course I can understand their frustration and they have every right to be [frustrated],” she said. “But I hope they understand the owner wants the best for Charlton. He does it his way and they need to accept that.
“They will not always agree with our decisions. No fans in the world will always agree with the decisions of the board. I always try to take into account the fans, but sometimes you have to make hard decisions.
Just opened this thread and this was as far as I needed to go. 'He does it his way, and we need to accept that.'
I would accept it if his way was proving anything like a suitable strategy to run a championship football club. It's laughable. By those very words he should put the club back on the market and cut his losses. It's not working, it's not going to work.
Where are the people who have been defending the owner in the past? I would like to hear their point of view?
@bobcafc7 seems to have disappeared ! Remember him lolling every one of my summer posts when I mentioned that the players coming in were not proven and I thought the squad looked thin! Heyho.
Where are the people who have been defending the owner in the past? I would like to hear their point of view?
@bobcafc7 seems to have disappeared ! Remember him lolling every one of my summer posts when I mentioned that the players coming in were not proven and I thought the squad looked thin! Heyho.
As Meire reminded us neatly a year ago at the time of the Luzon appointment debacle:
“Of course I can understand their frustration and they have every right to be [frustrated],” she said. “But I hope they understand the owner wants the best for Charlton. He does it his way and they need to accept that.
“They will not always agree with our decisions. No fans in the world will always agree with the decisions of the board. I always try to take into account the fans, but sometimes you have to make hard decisions.
Its actually not a bad statement, except if they consistently make bad decisions then it's crap.
I can't come up with any sort of rational explanation for the way RD chooses to run Charlton into the ground, as he has been successful in other areas of life.
So failing a rational explanation, I can only think of an irrational explanation. Perhaps his middle name is Nigel and him buying Charlton was part of a pincer movement for the stripy ones in removing potential competitors? Or maybe he is somehow connected in some arcane way with the ancient Bermondsey curse laid against us that prevents us winning games against the denizens of the Toolbox? Or maybe he is actually an alien and this is part of his Mork and Mindy-style method to learn about the ways of us humans.
I know all these are far-fetched. But just as likely as anything else, no?
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Our only chance is to appoint a manager ASAP with Championship experience, and sign some loan defenders with the same.
Get Watt, Pigott, and Harriot back from loan and man the trenches.
We play Burnley/Brighton/Derby/QPR in our last 6 games - if we are to give ourselves any chance, then the board have to ACT NOW !
Thanks for pointing it out. Amended now.
I'm not sure what the plan is but I'm pretty sure is nothing as clandestine as thickandthin is suggesting.
He stumbled across a Churchill quote and has unfortunately taken it too literally.
JJ says that keep changing coaches is not helpful; he is right but this man looks out of his depth.
We have a world cup winner in our side plus players that could be going to the Euros. They expect and demand to have a coach who knows what he is doing.
I wonder what his definition of failure is.
It is no surprise that the whole first team squad have pretty much given up the fight already when they have this inexperienced, clueless clown in charge! How can somebody with his lack of experience and knowledge of football at the top level command the respect needed from professional footballers to succeed???
As I have posted previously, we could buy 4-5 new top level championship players in January to improve the quality of the squad but if you have this clown in charge it isn't going to make any difference whatsoever. You need the new additions along with an experienced manager/head coach who will instantly earn the respect of the whole squad,including the likes of JJ, Diarra and JBG as the most experienced members of the squad. This type of appointment would hopefully get the players and fans back on side in the short term and lead the fight for survival for the rest of the season.
This isn't going to happen under RD so we are basically screwed. I have already resigned myself to watching Charlton in league 1 next season.
Like most of us I am so pissed off the only amusement I can get right now is trying to work out the strategy of a bunch of complete idiots
I would accept it if his way was proving anything like a suitable strategy to run a championship football club. It's laughable. By those very words he should put the club back on the market and cut his losses. It's not working, it's not going to work.
So failing a rational explanation, I can only think of an irrational explanation. Perhaps his middle name is Nigel and him buying Charlton was part of a pincer movement for the stripy ones in removing potential competitors?
Or maybe he is somehow connected in some arcane way with the ancient Bermondsey curse laid against us that prevents us winning games against the denizens of the Toolbox?
Or maybe he is actually an alien and this is part of his Mork and Mindy-style method to learn about the ways of us humans.
I know all these are far-fetched. But just as likely as anything else, no?
At least we can all unite now with a Fraser-esque 'We're Doomed!'