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  • The British Legion, Wokingham?
  • Who would claim that now? Palace, Stoke, West Brom, Saints, Norwich?
  • Who would claim that now? Palace, Stoke, West Brom, Saints, Norwich?

    Stoke - definitely. And it's all down to the HR Director!!
  • Who would claim that now? Palace, Stoke, West Brom, Saints, Norwich?

    Arsenal?
  • Who would claim that now? Palace, Stoke, West Brom, Saints, Norwich?

    West Ham obviously
  • iainment said:

    shirty5 said:
    That should be forwarded to the CEO
    She doesn't care about our history or the past though.
  • iainment said:

    shirty5 said:
    That should be forwarded to the CEO
    To be fair the rot set in years before RD and KM got involved, starting with the appointment of Dowie...

    These things tend to be transient. Ipswich were fêted at the same time that we were, excellent Chairman (Sheepshanks) and respected young manager (Burley) but after a UEFA cup run they got relegated and eventually ended up in administration...
  • edited December 2015
    What a terrible decision appointing Dowie was, but giving him so much money to spend unchecked was even worse .... true we had been firmly mired in relegation form for half a season before he arrived, but a half-decent new manager would probably have kept us up, and hopefully not have signed Traore and Faye. And the incredible contracts given to the likes of Moutaouakil did for us for several seasons after.
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  • That is a sad read.............we're light-years away from being half as good as back then :(
  • iainment said:

    shirty5 said:
    That should be forwarded to the CEO
    To be fair the rot set in years before RD and KM got involved, starting with the appointment of Dowie...

    These things tend to be transient. Ipswich were fêted at the same time that we were, excellent Chairman (Sheepshanks) and respected young manager (Burley) but after a UEFA cup run they got relegated and eventually ended up in administration...
    Agree, clubs run in cycles. You can win best run club of the year, then a few years later go into administration. All it takes is a bad season or two, or a change of owner....
  • Who would claim that now? Palace, Stoke, West Brom, Saints, Norwich?

    Southampton, Stoke and Swansea are all very well run.
  • Who would claim that now? Palace, Stoke, West Brom, Saints, Norwich?

    Southampton, Stoke and Swansea are all very well run.
    So are Palace, they always get run
  • The Gin Palace
  • Last 5 years must be Swansea or Southampton. Of the big boys it's Arsenal by a long distance
  • Last 5 years must be Swansea or Southampton. Of the big boys it's Arsenal by a long distance

    Seeing how well run Swansea, Southampton and Palace are at the moment, maybe the key thing is to go into administration...
  • Last 5 years must be Swansea or Southampton. Of the big boys it's Arsenal by a long distance

    Interesting that the two clubs that are mentioned were allowed to build their Stadia with someone else's money. Southampton knocked the mortgage on St Mary's when they came out of Administration and Swansea had their stadium build by the Tax Payer didn't they?
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    Can somebody send this to RD and KM?
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  • Last 5 years must be Swansea or Southampton. Of the big boys it's Arsenal by a long distance

    Interesting that the two clubs that are mentioned were allowed to build their Stadia with someone else's money. Southampton knocked the mortgage on St Mary's when they came out of Administration and Swansea had their stadium build by the Tax Payer didn't they?
    Didn't Palace knock the banks when they took over Selhurst from its separate administration too?

    The real advantage Palace got was their exemption from having a proper stadium.
  • Last 5 years must be Swansea or Southampton. Of the big boys it's Arsenal by a long distance

    Interesting that the two clubs that are mentioned were allowed to build their Stadia with someone else's money. Southampton knocked the mortgage on St Mary's when they came out of Administration and Swansea had their stadium build by the Tax Payer didn't they?

    Its not their stadium. They share it with the Ospreys. And they had already completed their fan-led recovery from closure by the time the possibility of a new stadium appeared.

    They should get everyone's vote by a country mile because they show not just that fan ownership is possible in the top flight, but they actually have been more consistently profitable over the last 3 years than virtually any other FAPL club.

  • Who would claim that now? Palace, Stoke, West Brom, Saints, Norwich?

    Charlton!
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  • You have me worried when i saw the title. I thought it was a KM quote!
  • iainment said:

    shirty5 said:
    That should be forwarded to the CEO
    To be fair the rot set in years before RD and KM got involved, starting with the appointment of Dowie...

    These things tend to be transient. Ipswich were fêted at the same time that we were, excellent Chairman (Sheepshanks) and respected young manager (Burley) but after a UEFA cup run they got relegated and eventually ended up in administration...
    You can only judge RD/KM on what's been achieved since they arrived. We've yet to look like threatening Powell's 9th place despite arguably better players, Charlton home support has dropped to below 9000 in the ground, our debt has risen significantly with no prospect of it falling, the relationship between the club and supporters is at its lowest at any point in the last 20 years...

    And now we find ourselves glancing towards Selhurst Park with an envious eye. Ironically Palace's success is built on similar principles to those that served out club for so long.

    It could be so different.
  • And we do have special fans. Just use them for you rather than against you! That might be a good first step.
  • Who would claim that now? Palace, Stoke, West Brom, Saints, Norwich?

    Charlton!
    Best run electronics subsidiary maybe?
  • rikofold said:

    iainment said:

    shirty5 said:
    That should be forwarded to the CEO
    To be fair the rot set in years before RD and KM got involved, starting with the appointment of Dowie...

    These things tend to be transient. Ipswich were fêted at the same time that we were, excellent Chairman (Sheepshanks) and respected young manager (Burley) but after a UEFA cup run they got relegated and eventually ended up in administration...
    You can only judge RD/KM on what's been achieved since they arrived. We've yet to look like threatening Powell's 9th place despite arguably better players, Charlton home support has dropped to below 9000 in the ground, our debt has risen significantly with no prospect of it falling, the relationship between the club and supporters is at its lowest at any point in the last 20 years...

    And now we find ourselves glancing towards Selhurst Park with an envious eye. Ironically Palace's success is built on similar principles to those that served out club for so long.

    It could be so different.
    Not defending RD/KM, but if Jimenez/Slater had still been in charge, things might easily have been worse! We could easily have gone into administration that season, which would have almost certainly meant relegation back to L1. At least we're not having to postpone or abandon home games now due to our pitch. Having a game postponed an hour or so before kickoff due to rain, when Conference teams were able to play that day was truly dreadful.
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