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  • Hal1x said:
    I doubt we will be seeing Haas for too much longer
    Yes, they probably hoped that as a US team, they would get more backing from US based companies. But the US has a tradition of having its own version of sports. That way they can be the best in the world at them (by default) I suppose! 
  • All set to go, spending the weekend at a mate's apartment just up the road...  :)  

      
    Nice one, am very jealous 
  • €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
  • Looks like Haas are going for Mick Schumacher and Nikita Mazepin. Bit of a surprise but Mazepin brings big money. 
  • MarcusH26 said:
    Looks like Haas are going for Mick Schumacher and Nikita Mazepin. Bit of a surprise but Mazepin brings big money. 
    That driver line up will struggle big time. Schumacher isn’t good enough to do a Verstappen or Hamilton and be quick out the box. He needs someone to learn from. Then again - wouldn’t surprise me if this has been done to give him a weak team mate...... make him look better than he is to give them an excuse to put him in a Ferrari seat.
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    Hmmm... I wonder who'll get the other Alfa seat then?

    Giovinazzi hasnt really impressed me
  • Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    Maybe a lot if you’re spending it every year but absolutely worth it to go at least once 
  • cafc-west said:
    Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    You need to go, at least once then.  Totally different.  The noise, smell of the cars, the atmosphere.  And seeing them go into bends at 150mph sticking to the track, brakes glowing white hot, is unreal.  Unfortunately its really hard to get that 'feel' or experience watching on the TV.
    I’ve always agreed with the spectacle aspect - but it was so much more prominent with the old V8s which made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.

    These cars are just not as ‘wow’ for me in the flesh.
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  • cafc-west said:
    Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    You need to go, at least once then.  Totally different.  The noise, smell of the cars, the atmosphere.  And seeing them go into bends at 150mph sticking to the track, brakes glowing white hot, is unreal.  Unfortunately its really hard to get that 'feel' or experience watching on the TV.
    I’ve always agreed with the spectacle aspect - but it was so much more prominent with the old V8s which made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.

    These cars are just not as ‘wow’ for me in the flesh.

    I remember watching F1 cars at Brands in the late 70s/early 80s and the noise made the ground shake as they went past.

    But it's still an incredible experience even with the cars now.
  • cafc-west said:
    Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    You need to go, at least once then.  Totally different.  The noise, smell of the cars, the atmosphere.  And seeing them go into bends at 150mph sticking to the track, brakes glowing white hot, is unreal.  Unfortunately its really hard to get that 'feel' or experience watching on the TV.
    I’ve always agreed with the spectacle aspect - but it was so much more prominent with the old V8s which made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.

    These cars are just not as ‘wow’ for me in the flesh.
    Yep - do agree.  The hybrids are not the same.  I remember first time at Barcelona - the Mclarens flying out the pit lane - they sounded like jet turbines but deafening...took your breath away.  Have been lots of times since the late 80's but not now for 10 years.  When we are sort of back-to-normal will go again if I can.
  • cafc-west said:
    Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    You need to go, at least once then.  Totally different.  The noise, smell of the cars, the atmosphere.  And seeing them go into bends at 150mph sticking to the track, brakes glowing white hot, is unreal.  Unfortunately its really hard to get that 'feel' or experience watching on the TV.
    Not a die hard fan of F1 but do enjoy watching it as something different. Got two tickets for this years British Grand Prix as birthday present for my son. Disappointed we couldn't go this year, but thought we would just roll over to this year. Except they have scheduled it for the same day as the Euros final for which we also have tickets if England get there....You have to wonder who schedules these after last year's treble fixture congestion with Cricket and Wimbledon finals.
  • Hmmm... I wonder who'll get the other Alfa seat then?

    Giovinazzi hasnt really impressed me
    Looks like it's going to be Giovinazzi for another year , then I would expect they'll promote Robert Shwartzman off a second year of F2 and a fresh set of regulations.
  • cafc-west said:
    Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    You need to go, at least once then.  Totally different.  The noise, smell of the cars, the atmosphere.  And seeing them go into bends at 150mph sticking to the track, brakes glowing white hot, is unreal.  Unfortunately its really hard to get that 'feel' or experience watching on the TV.
    I’ve always agreed with the spectacle aspect - but it was so much more prominent with the old V8s which made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.

    These cars are just not as ‘wow’ for me in the flesh.
    The current cars are much better, noise-wise, than the early hybrid cars but cannot compare to the live experience that you got with the V12/V10/V8 cars. 
  • edited October 2020
    cafc-west said:
    Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    You need to go, at least once then.  Totally different.  The noise, smell of the cars, the atmosphere.  And seeing them go into bends at 150mph sticking to the track, brakes glowing white hot, is unreal.  Unfortunately its really hard to get that 'feel' or experience watching on the TV.
    I’ve always agreed with the spectacle aspect - but it was so much more prominent with the old V8s which made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.

    These cars are just not as ‘wow’ for me in the flesh.
    The current cars are much better, noise-wise, than the early hybrid cars but cannot compare to the live experience that you got with the V12/V10/V8 cars. 
    I remember when I went to the Italian Grand Prix (we were on holiday in Italy at the same time so went mostly for something to do and because we were staying nearby). We were walking through the park to get into the track complex. There were loads of vendors selling t-shirts, hats etc., which made sense, but also quite a few people selling ear plugs. This seemed odd to my wife and I. We didn’t buy any but we didn’t really think too much of it either. 

    We carried on walking and found an excellent spot just at the first corner on the Ascari chicane, underneath some mad Ferrari fans who were sitting in a tree hurling abuse about Alonso through a loud haler at anyone who walked past in Renault merch (Schumacher was still at Ferrari at this time and it was pre Hamilton). I think they were still V10s in those days. 

    Anyway we settled in and the buzz started to go around the that race was about to start. And then we heard the noise of the cars starting up. They were very loud. Very loud. Even where we were on the opposite side of the track they honestly sound louder than if I’d been standing next to my own car while someone revved the engine. We both immediately thought back to the ear plugs and realized we shouldn’t have been quite so dismissive! By the time the cars got to our side of the track they were deafening, even at the three quarters pace of the warm up lap. 

    But what a spectacle it was. At full tilt they were like standing next the speakers at an Iron Maiden concert. And the cornering ability as the cars tore through the chicane was breath taking. You do get to see much less of the race and as we weren’t in a grand stand we didn’t even get a big screen to get info from, but the sights and sounds don’t come across nearly so well on TV. We got to see two crashes at our corner, and Schumacher overtake to take the lead in his Ferrari in Italy. And then walk the track once the race had finished. It was a sensational day out, and something I might never have done if we hadn’t just happened to realize the Grand Prix was on at the same time as our holiday. 

    It was a lot less than 129 euros, but I’d have happily paid that if I’d known what great day I’d have. It totally rekindled my interest in a sport I’d loved as a kid but lost interest in a bit through the early 00s. 
  • Too true Exiled, it is quite an experience. 

    I have always had an interest in F1 but i ain't a nut over it. Just happened to be on a family holiday in Canada and a cousin of the wife, a mad F1 fan booked a trip (me, him and the father in law) for us to do the Montreal GP.

    Firstly there was the flight out from Toronto in a plane full of crazy Ferrari fans, we couldn't of looked more out of place if we had tried.  Then the tube to the island on a blisteringly hot day, but then when those engines started up!  The hairs stood up on the back of my sunburnt neck.  What an experience.

    As i type my memory of the year has failed me. I do remember that Jaguar had a team as i brought her cousin a baseball hat as a thankyou.
  • Another great performance from Lewis today. 
    Loved reading @Exiled_Addick's post. It is so difficult to make people that have never attended a grand prix understand what it's like. I'd compare it to watching a music gig live as opposed to watching a video.
    Attending a GP in the pre-hybrid era was something else. One of my favourite memories was sitting on the Kemmel Straight at the Belgian GP. The noise from the engines at the start (from about 3/4 mile away) was deafening. Also, as the cars blasted past you at full throttle it could be felt in your chest let alone your ears.

  • Another great performance from Lewis today. 
    Loved reading @Exiled_Addick's post. It is so difficult to make people that have never attended a grand prix understand what it's like. I'd compare it to watching a music gig live as opposed to watching a video.
    Attending a GP in the pre-hybrid era was something else. One of my favourite memories was sitting on the Kemmel Straight at the Belgian GP. The noise from the engines at the start (from about 3/4 mile away) was deafening. Also, as the cars blasted past you at full throttle it could be felt in your chest let alone your ears.

    The first time I went to a GP was at Silverstone. Wore earplugs but took them off to speak to my mate for a couple of seconds and the noise was incredible, my ears were hurting.

    The loudest car I can remember hearing though is the Brabham V16 from the 50’s. Saw it do demo laps at Goodwood, it was like a banshee.

    Don’t even need earplugs for the modern hybrids, definitely takes something away from the experience 
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  • Back in about 2000, I went to the Hungarian GP with my mate and his missus. Wandering around the campsite between sessions, we walked past a campervan with about three big fat German chaps sitting outside wearing nothing but their underpants, pissed out of their heads.
    As we passed, it was impossible not to notice an enormous poster stuck to the campervan - it was a close up shot of a scene from a hard core porn movie. When you see something like this unexpectedly, it’s hard not to do a double-take. One of the Germans noticed my surprised look and, delighted to have caught my attention, ran over to us, pointing at it and bellowed “LOOK! LOOK! HIS COCK IS RIGHT UP HER ARSE!” He either didn’t notice one of us was female or didn’t care.
    All three of us carried on our way, pissing ourselves laughing at this ludicrous exchange.

    This moment has always (probably unfairly) summed up petrolheads at f1 races to me, but particularly the German ones, who seem to view it as an opportunity to become über-laddy and idiotic with their mates.

    😂

    Mate, if you want drunken idiots at racing, go to Le Mans. Wouldn’t surprise me if a lot of the blokes there aren’t aware there’s a race on! 
  • I’ve only been to three, maybe 4. Silverstone 88 or 89 or both. And Brands Hatch 85 & 86, I think one was the European Grand Prix.

    I remember a Minardi breaking down near where I was standing around the back of Brands

    Like soapy, not a massive fan and don’t see many of the races even though I have Sky. 

    I like to watch the start and quite like Ted’s notebook. Also quite interested in technical stuff and the history and how the teams evolve. Like Minardi now being Alpha Tauri, Jaguar Red Bul and Jordan Racing Point.

  • We lived in Germany from 64 to 72 and lived about an hour from the HockenheimRing. My Dad was friendly with the sport journalist on the paper they both worked for and we got to see a lot of races (F1, F2 and sports cars), including pit and paddock passes. things were a lot more relaxed in those days (we had lunch with Emmerson Fittipaldi in the paddocks when he was being interviewed). Nothing beats the smell of hot racing oil. 
    Thankfully there are still places like the Goodwood Festivals and the Historic Grand Prix races at the Nürburgring, where you can still the F1 cars of the 60s to the 00s as well as CanAm cars and others.
    The smell and sounds are unforgettable!
  • bobmunro said:
    cafc-west said:
    Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    You need to go, at least once then.  Totally different.  The noise, smell of the cars, the atmosphere.  And seeing them go into bends at 150mph sticking to the track, brakes glowing white hot, is unreal.  Unfortunately its really hard to get that 'feel' or experience watching on the TV.
    I’ve always agreed with the spectacle aspect - but it was so much more prominent with the old V8s which made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.

    These cars are just not as ‘wow’ for me in the flesh.

    I remember watching F1 cars at Brands in the late 70s/early 80s and the noise made the ground shake as they went past.

    But it's still an incredible experience even with the cars now.
    I wish they'd bring back the Race Of The Champions 
  • edited October 2020
    Only ever been to one F1 race live: The Australian grand prix in 2014, where they introduced the new, quieter cars. Before the race, they ran the previous season's cars around (I think David Coulthard was in one) and the sound was so powerful, so quintessentially F1 - when the newer models rolled out, it was rather disappointing!

    Would love to go back - being there was so much better than watching it on the box and, like most sports over there, it was so easy to get tickets and very reasonably priced. 
  • Less than zero interest in Formula 1 up till my 2nd son got in to it (milkman likes cars 🤷‍♂️) and we went to the Canadian Grand Prix last year and I really enjoyed it , obviously he loved it ,  definitely an experience to behold .
    Will try another one when life returns to normal .
  • Less than zero interest in Formula 1 up till my 2nd son got in to it (milkman likes cars 🤷‍♂️) and we went to the Canadian Grand Prix last year and I really enjoyed it , obviously he loved it ,  definitely an experience to behold .
    Will try another one when life returns to normal .
    If he’s got a souped up milk float you should probably be suspicious. 😉
  • Less than zero interest in Formula 1 up till my 2nd son got in to it (milkman likes cars 🤷‍♂️) and we went to the Canadian Grand Prix last year and I really enjoyed it , obviously he loved it ,  definitely an experience to behold .
    Will try another one when life returns to normal .
    If he’s got a souped up milk float you should probably be suspicious. 😉
    Well I wish Ernie good luck, tough sport!
  • Chizz said:
    bobmunro said:
    cafc-west said:
    Solidgone said:
    €190 a ticket seems a bit steep to watch cars whizzing past. Me thinks it’s much better watching on the box. 
    You need to go, at least once then.  Totally different.  The noise, smell of the cars, the atmosphere.  And seeing them go into bends at 150mph sticking to the track, brakes glowing white hot, is unreal.  Unfortunately its really hard to get that 'feel' or experience watching on the TV.
    I’ve always agreed with the spectacle aspect - but it was so much more prominent with the old V8s which made the hairs stand up on the back of your neck.

    These cars are just not as ‘wow’ for me in the flesh.

    I remember watching F1 cars at Brands in the late 70s/early 80s and the noise made the ground shake as they went past.

    But it's still an incredible experience even with the cars now.
    I wish they'd bring back the Race Of The Champions 
    My dad used to take me to Brands midweek a lot when I was a kid to watch cars practicing. I think it was free to get in so was a cheap day out as all I knew was that I was watching racing cars.

    He surprised me in the early 80’s by taking me to the qualifying day for the ROC. Was one of the best days out I ever had with him. 
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