Very disappointing to lose some of the momentum that we had bult up, but we were playing very good opposition.
I can only base my comments from the twitter commentary, however; 20 minutes in I feared for the worst and was fully expected a tonking. On the contrary, it sounded like we rallied together and managed to gain a little more strength. It sounds like a poor start really knocked us out of the game.
Perhaps we missed Cousins in the centre, and this weakened our midfield a bit too much. In hindsight maybe a more cautionary formation (4-5-1?) would've been wise, with the aim of keeping the ball and being difficult to breakdown. Without one of our regular midfielders though, making the numbers for 5 would've been difficult!
In conclusion, 2-0 against top of the table opposition after some of the results we've had recently isn't the end of the world, it's disappointing, but semi expected. We can draw a few positives that we didn't crumble as we have before, and that we still summoned up the strength to attack back. On to Saturday when we can go again.
Obviously not nice to lose but there are plenty of positives to take. Diarra and Eagles both looked good. I think 2-0 flattered the league leaders. Had we not rolled over so easily after conceding the first i think we could've got something.
Still, we looked like a midtable team. There is no way we are going to be relegated. Confident for Saturday COYR
2-0 flattered them! Seriously? They didn't need to get out of 1st gear in the second half
Just saying what I saw. I thought we more than matched them apart from those first 20 minutes, which were obviously crucial to the outcome.
I thought Alou for Wilson was a very good change. He helped stabilise the midfield and prevent any further damage. Also made sure to show he appreciated the fans at the end. Good man.
Eagles looked threatening. Can't wait for them to both reach full fitness on the back of their performances so far.
Obviously not nice to lose but there are plenty of positives to take. Diarra and Eagles both looked good. I think 2-0 flattered the league leaders. Had we not rolled over so easily after conceding the first i think we could've got something.
Still, we looked like a midtable team. There is no way we are going to be relegated. Confident for Saturday COYR
2-0 flattered them! Seriously? They didn't need to get out of 1st gear in the second half
Just saying what I saw. I thought we more than matched them apart from those first 20 minutes, which were obviously crucial to the outcome.
There's a fine line between a score flattering a team and a team doing what they need to do, which is a win and to nil in this case even better for them. The game was essentially over from their 2nd goal IF they defended as well as they could and it's natural for teams to play a slightly more defensive game from then on, and that's what they did.
I think Derby did a job on us and we did a job from 2-0 to keep it at that, can't expect too much more really just a shame we couldn't net for a bit of confidence. Hudds now have that 'confidence', not us.
The important thing will be how we deal with the setback now. Hudders is a tough but winnable game. If we bounce back straight away then we'll be looking good for staying up
Obviously not nice to lose but there are plenty of positives to take. Diarra and Eagles both looked good. I think 2-0 flattered the league leaders. Had we not rolled over so easily after conceding the first i think we could've got something.
Still, we looked like a midtable team. There is no way we are going to be relegated. Confident for Saturday COYR
2-0 flattered them! Seriously? They didn't need to get out of 1st gear in the second half
Not fussed about losing 2-0, but if I'm going to be critical I've got to say we bought a load of midfielders and we play a back up Rb in a central 2 away from home to the top team in the league? Strange decision imo. Should have gone 4-5-1. Should have used lepoint, diarra, Eagles etc from the start. Completely different game to the last 2 but we treated it the same. That being said, didn't expect anything and so we move on to sat writing off tonight as experience.
All in all could have been a lot worse for us with most of the teams below us losing including importantly all of the bottom 3. Another 10 or so points should be enough to keep us up, would be nice to get 3 of them on Saturday.
All the results went our way today so I'm not too bothered by the loss. Sounded like a bad first 15 and a good last 75. Charlton twitter said that Cousins should be back for Hudds so there should be no worries there. Would have liked to nick a goal but either way we shouldn't be too bothered by this. I will be shocked if Derby do not go up. Let's enjoy the rest of the week and beat the Hudds!!
I think who ever he played CM, there would have been grumbles, Diarra not fit enough for 90 minutes, who else could he have played in defensive CM?
Cousins. And cousins was gutted not to be playing apparently.
Personally I'm not sure it would have made a difference tonight.
Assumed he was injured, was he "dropped" ?
I imagine he had the sort of minor knock that wouldn't prevent him playing if the game was crucial for us, but as games are coming up thick and fast and tonight's was always going to be the least likely one to pick up points in, I can understand resting him
We beat Brentford who have since won both games , beat Wigan after they had a good win and apart from a poor 17 mins took the leaders all the way tonight and lost 2-0 ......... Not that bad really ??
This. I felt that we'd be on a hiding after the second went in. There was no shape and they over ran us repeatedly, but then suddenly we started to weather the storm and even had a few attacks which could have produced a goal. The second half was mostly even and it showed their soft underbelly, that whenever we ran at them they backed off. They are probably going up but shipping 5 goals against Blackpool and Wednesday sows they aren't that tough at the back. That said our constant plan to lump balls up to their giant back four was never going to threaten. When we put the ball on the ground we gave them a fright. More positives than negatives from tonight.
As others said it was nice to sing Darren Bent, Bent, Bent as he came over after all the other player's were leaving the pitch. A quality player with a touch of class. Another one gone but never forgotten. So on to Saturday and another one gone but not forgotten.
Good to see Buyens made sure he didn't get a yellow by just jogging along side the fella who got the assist for Derbys 2nd
and Solly maybe should have done better for the 2nd goal at least
Shocking player Buyens. Incredibly lazy and clearly doesn't want to be here. Send him back.
On another note Luzon really mustn't rate Lepoint. Why play Wilson in the middle when you have a central midfielder available?
Back home around 30mins ago - journey not helped by M25 being shut at Jct 27 so forced to go down M11 & Blackwall Tunnel.
Quickly scanned the posts on here & agree with RR.
Midfield was seriously lightweight with Buyens & Lawrie, acknowledging the latter was playing in an unfamiliar position. Buyens gives us so little & continued to make the safe, short pass or gave the ball away cheaply. As for tackling.....don't go there.
It badly needed changing at halftime and GL did what the doctor ordered...Diarra looked decent and for the first time in the match, won some headers for us. Look forward to see him start on Saturday & wish we had a suitable replacement for Mr Lazy.
Worried that we might concede a hatful after they scored their second with such ease( knife through butter describes their play directly through our "middle") but we came out after half time and started putting in some serious tackles which surprised them a bit. Unfortunately, we didn't make enough chances to deserve to score & the gulf between last Friday's opponents & tonight's was akin to the Grand Canyon.
Certainly not disgraced but little for the faithful to cheer about tonight. C'est la vie & we move on.
I was told that young Jordan suffered a back injury against Wigan & could be out for 3-4 games but this doesn't seem to be common knowledge so possibly my info is flawed. Rumour also has it that The Point is not thought to be The One for our midfield , hence although on the bench, was not even considered as a replacement for Lawrie. Maybe he wasn't our manager's choice ?
Looking forward to the Huddersfield game with the inclusion of Diarra in the starting line up. It would also be great if Gomez could play his part sooner than later and show GL what he's capable of. Will be a tough game so the 24,000 or so home fans need to make some serious noise & get behind the lads from the first to last whistle. We seriously need to win this one.
As said by Dazzler, this is from OS report: "Lawrie Wilson came into the side in place of Jordan Cousins, who was been rested by Head Coach Guy Luzon to allow him time to recover from an accumulation of knocks."
On another note Luzon really mustn't rate Lepoint. Why play Wilson in the middle when you have a central midfielder available?
Cousins, when played centrally, is a defensive midfielder, whereas LePoint is an attacking midfielder. It wouldn't have been a like-for-like replacement and could've left us quite exposed in midfield in a 4-4-2 formation.
He gave Wilson a chance and he didn't take it (again!)....Alou did by the sounds of it.
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I can only base my comments from the twitter commentary, however; 20 minutes in I feared for the worst and was fully expected a tonking. On the contrary, it sounded like we rallied together and managed to gain a little more strength. It sounds like a poor start really knocked us out of the game.
Perhaps we missed Cousins in the centre, and this weakened our midfield a bit too much. In hindsight maybe a more cautionary formation (4-5-1?) would've been wise, with the aim of keeping the ball and being difficult to breakdown. Without one of our regular midfielders though, making the numbers for 5 would've been difficult!
In conclusion, 2-0 against top of the table opposition after some of the results we've had recently isn't the end of the world, it's disappointing, but semi expected. We can draw a few positives that we didn't crumble as we have before, and that we still summoned up the strength to attack back. On to Saturday when we can go again.
Eagles looked threatening. Can't wait for them to both reach full fitness on the back of their performances so far.
I think Derby did a job on us and we did a job from 2-0 to keep it at that, can't expect too much more really just a shame we couldn't net for a bit of confidence. Hudds now have that 'confidence', not us.
Looks like we've picked up decent signings in those two.
On another note Luzon really mustn't rate Lepoint. Why play Wilson in the middle when you have a central midfielder available?
As others said it was nice to sing Darren Bent, Bent, Bent as he came over after all the other player's were leaving the pitch. A quality player with a touch of class. Another one gone but never forgotten. So on to Saturday and another one gone but not forgotten.
Quickly scanned the posts on here & agree with RR.
Midfield was seriously lightweight with Buyens & Lawrie, acknowledging the latter was playing in an unfamiliar position. Buyens gives us so little & continued to make the safe, short pass or gave the ball away cheaply. As for tackling.....don't go there.
It badly needed changing at halftime and GL did what the doctor ordered...Diarra looked decent and for the first time in the match, won some headers for us. Look forward to see him start on Saturday & wish we had a suitable replacement for Mr Lazy.
Worried that we might concede a hatful after they scored their second with such ease( knife through butter describes their play directly through our "middle") but we came out after half time and started putting in some serious tackles which surprised them a bit. Unfortunately, we didn't make enough chances to deserve to score & the gulf between last Friday's opponents & tonight's was akin to the Grand Canyon.
Certainly not disgraced but little for the faithful to cheer about tonight. C'est la vie & we move on.
I was told that young Jordan suffered a back injury against Wigan & could be out for 3-4 games but this doesn't seem to be common knowledge so possibly my info is flawed. Rumour also has it that The Point is not thought to be The One for our midfield , hence although on the bench, was not even considered as a replacement for Lawrie. Maybe he wasn't our manager's choice ?
Looking forward to the Huddersfield game with the inclusion of Diarra in the starting line up. It would also be great if Gomez could play his part sooner than later and show GL what he's capable of. Will be a tough game so the 24,000 or so home fans need to make some serious noise & get behind the lads from the first to last whistle. We seriously need to win this one.
Keep the faith.
He gave Wilson a chance and he didn't take it (again!)....Alou did by the sounds of it.