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My Perspective on the situation

Sorry to sart another thread but need to express my feelings in a way that wont get lost among the numerous threads and posts. That may not mean much to anyone else but will make me feel better. The negativity surrounding this site about Roland/the network i feel is more damaging thann anything the owner is doing!

Fans bemoaning Katriens comment are so 'precious' its untrue. Please grow some balls
Fans bemoaning the Roland way of doing things should remember some of the dark times we've endured. This is hardly the same
Fans bemoaning the influx of 'jonny foreigners' are bordering on xenaphobic
Fans blathering on about "ripping the heart out of our club"...... really are starting to sound like the scousers!
Fans that seem to have an agenda against the owner quote only the negative whilst ignoring the positive

I could go on but to be honest i find it draining and can only think all this negativity is poisoning the atmosphere on here and at the Valley.

Since the takeover we had an upturn in form that saved us from what seemed a very likely relegation. We then in the summer strengthened the squad with some quality like TBH. Bikey, Igor, Hendo and JBG and consequently started thhe season well. The football was different, players happy to take possession and look for a pass, cool and composed at the back and had a threat in Igor up front.

Then as winter approached results started to go a bit wonky and we have slide down the table. The cause could be one or more of many things but im pretty damn sure its not anything RD is doing. Pro foootballers are rarely fazed by things going on in the boardroom but it is unversally accepted that confidence is key! Their confidence is very low, epitomised by our failure to hold the lead yesterday and those 2 points would have lifted us back into the top half of the table. Negaivity and lack of support WILL NOT help the situation!!!

We need to bring in a couple of players before deadline, ideally including a big man upfront ( as i feel much of or forward momentum is lost when we dont have the option of lumping it into the box).

I exepct this will fall on deaf ears but if those complaining could direct their energies into supporting and lifting the atmosphere, the team could find a win andbreak this awful run then things may eem a little brighter.

I may be in the minority but i am pleased to have a wealthy owner after years of being on the proverbial breadline and am happy to allow him to try and make his way of doing things work and judge him at the end. We are nowhere near that point yet and are simply a work in progress
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  • Well said, the anti RD, anti Katrien, anti Foreign players, anti British players, anti Belgium, anti everything brigade need to get a grip.
  • Top post Taxi_Lad
  • It seems you are correct, you are in the minority.

    The majority, however, have had enough. Give it a few weeks and when the minority are scattered around the Valley watching yet another piss poor performance, from a load of players who can't be arsed to be there....they can do so happy in the knowledge they supported those individuals on the pitch ( I won't refer to them as a team), 100%.

    I'm sure GL will appreciate that.
  • braydex said:

    It seems you are correct, you are in the minority.

    The majority, however, have had enough. Give it a few weeks and when the minority are scattered around the Valley watching yet another piss poor performance, from a load of players who can't be arsed to be there....they can do so happy in the knowledge they supported those individuals on the pitch ( I won't refer to them as a team), 100%.

    I'm sure GL will appreciate that.

    So thats what your hoping will happen.
    If this doesn't happen, what will you do?
  • edited February 2015
    evidence to date shows Braydex is likely to be right. The football has been painful to watch all season. The very few games we have won at home (a long time ago) were owing to solid/ very lucky defending and not pleasant to watch. And still some people think everything will be rosy if only we ignore the trends and carry on regardless..
  • Taxi_Lad said:

    Sorry to sart another thread but need to express my feelings in a way that wont get lost among the numerous threads and posts. That may not mean much to anyone else but will make me feel better. The negativity surrounding this site about Roland/the network i feel is more damaging thann anything the owner is doing!

    Fans bemoaning Katriens comment are so 'precious' its untrue. Please grow some balls
    Fans bemoaning the Roland way of doing things should remember some of the dark times we've endured. This is hardly the same
    Fans bemoaning the influx of 'jonny foreigners' are bordering on xenaphobic
    Fans blathering on about "ripping the heart out of our club"...... really are starting to sound like the scousers!
    Fans that seem to have an agenda against the owner quote only the negative whilst ignoring the positive

    I could go on but to be honest i find it draining and can only think all this negativity is poisoning the atmosphere on here and at the Valley.

    Since the takeover we had an upturn in form that saved us from what seemed a very likely relegation. We then in the summer strengthened the squad with some quality like TBH. Bikey, Igor, Hendo and JBG and consequently started thhe season well. The football was different, players happy to take possession and look for a pass, cool and composed at the back and had a threat in Igor up front.

    Then as winter approached results started to go a bit wonky and we have slide down the table. The cause could be one or more of many things but im pretty damn sure its not anything RD is doing. Pro foootballers are rarely fazed by things going on in the boardroom but it is unversally accepted that confidence is key! Their confidence is very low, epitomised by our failure to hold the lead yesterday and those 2 points would have lifted us back into the top half of the table. Negaivity and lack of support WILL NOT help the situation!!!

    We need to bring in a couple of players before deadline, ideally including a big man upfront ( as i feel much of or forward momentum is lost when we dont have the option of lumping it into the box).

    I exepct this will fall on deaf ears but if those complaining could direct their energies into supporting and lifting the atmosphere, the team could find a win andbreak this awful run then things may eem a little brighter.

    I may be in the minority but i am pleased to have a wealthy owner after years of being on the proverbial breadline and am happy to allow him to try and make his way of doing things work and judge him at the end. We are nowhere near that point yet and are simply a work in progress

    I am sorry but I don't really think a couple of hundred supporters venting their spleen on a forum is having more of an effect on the results on the pitch than the hiring and firing of managers willy-nilly, the bringing in of players clearly out of their depth in The Championship, and managers/coaches with little or no experience of English football. I just don't buy it, my opinion is not affecting how badly the team defend set pieces or whether Les from Plumstead is going to turn up to watch the game next Saturday. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.
    Just to let you know that Les has moved from Plumstead. He has upgraded slightly and moved to Abbey Wood.
  • Taxi_Lad said:

    Sorry to sart another thread but need to express my feelings in a way that wont get lost among the numerous threads and posts. That may not mean much to anyone else but will make me feel better. The negativity surrounding this site about Roland/the network i feel is more damaging thann anything the owner is doing!

    Fans bemoaning Katriens comment are so 'precious' its untrue. Please grow some balls
    Fans bemoaning the Roland way of doing things should remember some of the dark times we've endured. This is hardly the same
    Fans bemoaning the influx of 'jonny foreigners' are bordering on xenaphobic
    Fans blathering on about "ripping the heart out of our club"...... really are starting to sound like the scousers!
    Fans that seem to have an agenda against the owner quote only the negative whilst ignoring the positive

    I could go on but to be honest i find it draining and can only think all this negativity is poisoning the atmosphere on here and at the Valley.

    Since the takeover we had an upturn in form that saved us from what seemed a very likely relegation. We then in the summer strengthened the squad with some quality like TBH. Bikey, Igor, Hendo and JBG and consequently started thhe season well. The football was different, players happy to take possession and look for a pass, cool and composed at the back and had a threat in Igor up front.

    Then as winter approached results started to go a bit wonky and we have slide down the table. The cause could be one or more of many things but im pretty damn sure its not anything RD is doing. Pro foootballers are rarely fazed by things going on in the boardroom but it is unversally accepted that confidence is key! Their confidence is very low, epitomised by our failure to hold the lead yesterday and those 2 points would have lifted us back into the top half of the table. Negaivity and lack of support WILL NOT help the situation!!!

    We need to bring in a couple of players before deadline, ideally including a big man upfront ( as i feel much of or forward momentum is lost when we dont have the option of lumping it into the box).

    I exepct this will fall on deaf ears but if those complaining could direct their energies into supporting and lifting the atmosphere, the team could find a win andbreak this awful run then things may eem a little brighter.

    I may be in the minority but i am pleased to have a wealthy owner after years of being on the proverbial breadline and am happy to allow him to try and make his way of doing things work and judge him at the end. We are nowhere near that point yet and are simply a work in progress

    I am sorry but I don't really think a couple of hundred supporters venting their spleen on a forum is having more of an effect on the results on the pitch than the hiring and firing of managers willy-nilly, the bringing in of players clearly out of their depth in The Championship, and managers/coaches with little or no experience of English football. I just don't buy it, my opinion is not affecting how badly the team defend set pieces or whether Les from Plumstead is going to turn up to watch the game next Saturday. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.
    Just to let you know that Les has moved from Plumstead. He has upgraded slightly and moved to Abbey Wood.
    No, not THAT Les RO - the other one...

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  • So it's the fans fault..
    Right
  • So it's the fans fault..
    Right

    That's unfair. How can you blame the fans?
  • The atmosphere doesn't help and i think yesterdays was the worse so far this season but i guess watching two piss poor teams didn't help!
  • The atmosphere means next to big fat nothing.. take Arsenal at home as a key example.

    The problem is players playing for personal reasons, most of them couldn't give a toss if we got relegated - why!? Because they have back up clubs, of which they hold no more love or passion than for us. Loans and network players all included, and our own breeded players aren't happy with it. We're a million miles away from the League One title winning squad, and I'm not talking in quality.
  • Great post TL
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  • Taxi_Lad said:

    So it's the fans fault..
    Right

    at the ground;
    If fans cant support the club through thin times then......yes
    If fans negativity transmits to the players then......yes

    Stick behind the lads, get that win and start to turn things around

    Totally agree. Reckon it's the old self-fulfilling prophecy that's happening at the moment. Being at games at the end of last season seemed very different. We could see the shit that was being loaded onto the team but the difference was the support which spurred them on. They pulled off some brilliant results. The atmosphere now is different and turns toxic quickly. It's bound to transmit to the players and make them nervous. There really are some numpties about the place at the minute.
  • Bloody Millwall can win a match 0-1 away from home.
  • I have been very supportive of Roland, until he appointed Guy Luzon. Which was such a blatant piss take and "jobs for mates" it's genuinely made me feel indifferent to charlton at the moment. I checked the score yesterday and didn't really feel much that we scored in the 80th minute, or they scored a last minute equaliser. RD has a different way of doing things but he seems unwilling to adapt his approach, not to mention he either is horrendous at PR or has a joke of a PR team. I think he probably sees himself as a genius who's plan is still coming together. I wouldn't be surprised if he watched "Moneyball" and fancied being played by Brad Pitt at some point. In the electronics industry, having a completely different approach from the norm makes you successful, it gives your products an edge of your competitors. In football, an incredibly small world (you'll be surprised how small it is), you just have to piss a few people off and you're struggling. People wonder why we're not signing players from the UK, it's because no one would touch us with a barge pole at the moment.

    Like most seriously wealthy football club owners, Roland's a narcissist. I feel sorry for Katrien who, from what i've heard, is a very hard worker and has just got a horrible boss in Roland the douche Duchatelet.

    I feel the same about charlton now as i did when pardew got sacked and replaced by parky. We have a team of players who mostly don't care strongly for the club, and those that do want out. As mentioned earlier, it's toxic, and will only result in relegation.
  • We are only a win away from 12th!
    7-0 would help with the old goal difference.
  • There's nothing quite as unhelpful as an argument that says 'this isn't bad because something was worse once'. What a useless argument. Who cares that things were once worse, that doesn't make this situation good, does it? You're also saying you're happy yo have a wealthy owner - what good is that to us if we still get sent Network chaff? There's a couple of days left in the transfer window and if he brings in two proper strikers for a bit of money we'll be happy, but until then Roland being rich is meaningless as long as he sends the likes of Tucudean and Bulot to solve our problems.

    People are worried because the team are playing crap football and there's not even an identity or a connection with the players. When you get those things together people get unsettled. Not quite sure what you think digging out the fans is going to achieve.

    But like you say, judge it at the end. You let me know what 'the end' is though. Is 'the end' the end of last season when it became obvious that Network signings weren't the answer for this league? Or is it the end of the first half of the season, where it again became clear that the leftovers in the Network weren't good enough and we'd actually need to spend to get goals and points? Maybe it'll be two years down the line when we're still stubbornly making the same mistakes. Let us know, because I'm genuinely interested what you consider as the end of this project.

    Well two games (unbeaten) into GLs reign sure ain't the end is it but don't let that stop the doom merchants.
  • edited February 2015
    What planet are you on.
  • Taxi_Lad said:

    So it's the fans fault..
    Right

    at the ground;
    If fans cant support the club through thin times then......yes
    If fans negativity transmits to the players then......yes

    Stick behind the lads, get that win and start to turn things around

    Totally agree. Reckon it's the old self-fulfilling prophecy that's happening at the moment. Being at games at the end of last season seemed very different. We could see the shit that was being loaded onto the team but the difference was the support which spurred them on. They pulled off some brilliant results. The atmosphere now is different and turns toxic quickly. It's bound to transmit to the players and make them nervous. There really are some numpties about the place at the minute.
    Still don't buy it. The OP was specifically referring to this site at first, and then he clearly stated that he was " pretty damned sure it isn't anything Roland is doing" when talking about the reasons behind the current situation - a ridiculous statement.I stand by my earlier comment that blaming the fans, especially those on an Internet forum is ludicrous.
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