Good to see you making such a fuss over what is our cup final. Nice little video.
Thats nothing, the away end will have 3200 pairs of disposable pants on the seats for you to change in to after you see what the east stand A block have in store for you. (:
Ok, three days to go, by now they will slowly be draining away any footballing ability they ever had, by Saturday they will come out like 11 girls on a daisy picking day out ! We will then see 90 minutes of humiliation, as they fall over , send passes 10 metres away from the intended recipient and that's 10 metres behind, never in front. They will be unable to jump more than 2 inches off the ground, and Bikey will look like Mr Bean ! Any shortage of millwall talent will be ignored, as we give them every loose ball, refuse to tackle, get booked, get send off, look gormless and pretend to be injured to just get the hell outa there !
Good to see you making such a fuss over what is our cup final. Nice little video.
Thats nothing, the away end will have 3200 pairs of disposable pants on the seats for you to change in to after you see what the east stand A block have in store for you. (:
Ooo, what are they planning? Normally empty in that area isn't it?
At least the club is trying something. I'm surprised they still think the game matters to the fans when half won't even turn up on saturday, and then we won't even sell 3k for the away fixture next year.
The video is embarrassing but, as you say, so are our turnouts. Quite enjoyed the games at the Den the last couple of seasons, but the home games have been awful in the stands as well as on the pitch. The players have let us down badly in the last two home games, but it's not as if they emerge from the tunnel into an inspiring cauldron of noise.
The turnouts (at home) simply reflect that a lot of people want nothing to do with this fixture, not just because of Millwall's reputation - justified or otherwise - but because of the hassle they get around attending the game, including from the police. The arrangements in 2012/13 did a lot of damage on that score. If it was an important match in the context of the season, albeit it will never be played at a crunch time, I have no doubt Charlton fans would turn out. As it is, it is perceived to be potential grief for no reward. I don't know why we should be embarrassed that some of our fans choose to stay away or leave their kids at home. The embarrassment down the years has all been on the pitch. But it does make 1976, 1978, 1995 and 1996 all the sweeter. And we didn't even play them from 1996 to 2009.
The 4-4 draw in 2009 was a proper local derby and despite being in League One recorded just under 16,000 home supporters. The figure in March 2013 (the next Valley meeting) was 15,300, but for the televised September game it was down to 13,000. In each 2013 case about 2-2,500 home ticket holders didn't turn up, which is not untypical regardless of opposition, except that with Millwall it won't be accounted for by comps. It will largely be season ticket holders.
With no live TV coverage on Saturday, decent form going into the game and the events of March 2013 fading, we ought to see some recovery in the home numbers, notwithstanding we have 1,000-plus fewer season tickets than in 2012/13. I would guess 14,000-plus officially and 12,000 in reality.
After reading the comments I feel like there must be something wrong with me, as I quite enjoyed the video.
I think for some reason, and as much as I have tried not to, I am really pumped for this game. 2 - 0 win, Vetokele and the skipper with the goals. Hopefully there's a bit of an atmosphere at the Valley and we can drown out the continuous 'miiiiiiiii' drone.
At least the club is trying something. I'm surprised they still think the game matters to the fans when half won't even turn up on saturday, and then we won't even sell 3k for the away fixture next year.
The video is embarrassing but, as you say, so are our turnouts. Quite enjoyed the games at the Den the last couple of seasons, but the home games have been awful in the stands as well as on the pitch. The players have let us down badly in the last two home games, but it's not as if they emerge from the tunnel into an inspiring cauldron of noise.
The turnouts (at home) simply reflect that a lot of people want nothing to do with this fixture, not just because of Millwall's reputation - justified or otherwise - but because of the hassle they get around attending the game, including from the police. The arrangements in 2012/13 did a lot of damage on that score. If it was an important match in the context of the season, albeit it will never be played at a crunch time, I have no doubt Charlton fans would turn out. As it is, it is perceived to be potential grief for no reward. I don't know why we should be embarrassed that some of our fans choose to stay away or leave their kids at home. The embarrassment down the years has all been on the pitch. But it does make 1976, 1978, 1995 and 1996 all the sweeter. And we didn't even play them from 1996 to 2009.
The 4-4 draw in 2009 was a proper local derby and despite being in League One recorded just under 16,000 home supporters. The figure in March 2013 (the next Valley meeting) was 15,300, but for the televised September game it was down to 13,000. In each 2013 case about 2-2,500 home ticket holders didn't turn up, which is not untypical regardless of opposition, except that with Millwall it won't be accounted for by comps. It will largely be season ticket holders.
With no live TV coverage on Saturday, decent form going into the game and the events of March 2013 fading, we ought to see some recovery in the home numbers, notwithstanding we have 1,000-plus fewer season tickets than in 2012/13. I would guess 14,000-plus officially and 12,000 in reality.
At least the club is trying something. I'm surprised they still think the game matters to the fans when half won't even turn up on saturday, and then we won't even sell 3k for the away fixture next year.
The video is embarrassing but, as you say, so are our turnouts. Quite enjoyed the games at the Den the last couple of seasons, but the home games have been awful in the stands as well as on the pitch. The players have let us down badly in the last two home games, but it's not as if they emerge from the tunnel into an inspiring cauldron of noise.
The turnouts (at home) simply reflect that a lot of people want nothing to do with this fixture, not just because of Millwall's reputation - justified or otherwise - but because of the hassle they get around attending the game, including from the police. The arrangements in 2012/13 did a lot of damage on that score. If it was an important match in the context of the season, albeit it will never be played at a crunch time, I have no doubt Charlton fans would turn out. As it is, it is perceived to be potential grief for no reward. I don't know why we should be embarrassed that some of our fans choose to stay away or leave their kids at home. The embarrassment down the years has all been on the pitch. But it does make 1976, 1978, 1995 and 1996 all the sweeter. And we didn't even play them from 1996 to 2009.
The 4-4 draw in 2009 was a proper local derby and despite being in League One recorded just under 16,000 home supporters. The figure in March 2013 (the next Valley meeting) was 15,300, but for the televised September game it was down to 13,000. In each 2013 case about 2-2,500 home ticket holders didn't turn up, which is not untypical regardless of opposition, except that with Millwall it won't be accounted for by comps. It will largely be season ticket holders.
With no live TV coverage on Saturday, decent form going into the game and the events of March 2013 fading, we ought to see some recovery in the home numbers, notwithstanding we have 1,000-plus fewer season tickets than in 2012/13. I would guess 14,000-plus officially and 12,000 in reality.
At least the club is trying something. I'm surprised they still think the game matters to the fans when half won't even turn up on saturday, and then we won't even sell 3k for the away fixture next year.
The video is embarrassing but, as you say, so are our turnouts. Quite enjoyed the games at the Den the last couple of seasons, but the home games have been awful in the stands as well as on the pitch. The players have let us down badly in the last two home games, but it's not as if they emerge from the tunnel into an inspiring cauldron of noise.
The turnouts (at home) simply reflect that a lot of people want nothing to do with this fixture, not just because of Millwall's reputation - justified or otherwise - but because of the hassle they get around attending the game, including from the police. The arrangements in 2012/13 did a lot of damage on that score. If it was an important match in the context of the season, albeit it will never be played at a crunch time, I have no doubt Charlton fans would turn out. As it is, it is perceived to be potential grief for no reward. I don't know why we should be embarrassed that some of our fans choose to stay away or leave their kids at home. The embarrassment down the years has all been on the pitch. But it does make 1976, 1978, 1995 and 1996 all the sweeter. And we didn't even play them from 1996 to 2009.
The 4-4 draw in 2009 was a proper local derby and despite being in League One recorded just under 16,000 home supporters. The figure in March 2013 (the next Valley meeting) was 15,300, but for the televised September game it was down to 13,000. In each 2013 case about 2-2,500 home ticket holders didn't turn up, which is not untypical regardless of opposition, except that with Millwall it won't be accounted for by comps. It will largely be season ticket holders.
With no live TV coverage on Saturday, decent form going into the game and the events of March 2013 fading, we ought to see some recovery in the home numbers, notwithstanding we have 1,000-plus fewer season tickets than in 2012/13. I would guess 14,000-plus officially and 12,000 in reality.
Every other derby in the top 2 divisions has grief, hassle and inconvenience.
I feel uncomfortable opposing your reasoning without the numbers and knowledge you clearly demonstrate, but Charlton fans simply don't have much go in them whether it is a derby or not. Many young fans were spoilt by growing up with a team in the Premier League and lost interest in matchdays when it became abundantly clear we wasn't going to get back there any time soon circa 2009.
I liked it. Some people just like having something to moan about. What's the term..... 'wingeing poms'. That's it. It's good that we live up to our name.
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Any shortage of millwall talent will be ignored, as we give them every loose ball, refuse to tackle, get booked, get send off, look gormless and pretend to be injured to just get the hell outa there !
Yes it's Millwall time !
The 4-4 draw in 2009 was a proper local derby and despite being in League One recorded just under 16,000 home supporters. The figure in March 2013 (the next Valley meeting) was 15,300, but for the televised September game it was down to 13,000. In each 2013 case about 2-2,500 home ticket holders didn't turn up, which is not untypical regardless of opposition, except that with Millwall it won't be accounted for by comps. It will largely be season ticket holders.
With no live TV coverage on Saturday, decent form going into the game and the events of March 2013 fading, we ought to see some recovery in the home numbers, notwithstanding we have 1,000-plus fewer season tickets than in 2012/13. I would guess 14,000-plus officially and 12,000 in reality.
TBF it smelled, was consistent as a fixture goes and once flushed forgotten about. Just like Millwall really....
I think for some reason, and as much as I have tried not to, I am really pumped for this game. 2 - 0 win, Vetokele and the skipper with the goals. Hopefully there's a bit of an atmosphere at the Valley and we can drown out the continuous 'miiiiiiiii' drone.
It's the hope that kills!
The goal scored by John Hendry.
PS I never realised his career went nowhere.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hendry_(footballer)
I feel uncomfortable opposing your reasoning without the numbers and knowledge you clearly demonstrate, but Charlton fans simply don't have much go in them whether it is a derby or not. Many young fans were spoilt by growing up with a team in the Premier League and lost interest in matchdays when it became abundantly clear we wasn't going to get back there any time soon circa 2009.
I'm never confident playing the bermondsey bumholes but we will do it this year. Igor and jacko the scorers. 2-0.