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If we are not playing particularly well how do you explain the fact that we are still undefeated?
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Seems to me from following CL this season a lot of you are very unconvinced by the current Charlton side and (again purely based on what I've read and the odd live stream) we have flattered to deceive on many a occassion.
How, then, does it explain our 11 match unbeaten run and relatively lofty position of sixth in the league? Is it simply due to the fact that BP has got his players extremely well organized or do we have a bit more about us this season and, if so, what is that?
Alternatively is it a fluke that we are unbeaten in the league and a false reflection of our true worth as a side?
Or is BP just a "lucky" manager who seems to have the decisions go his way?
Interested to hear your thoughts.
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How, then, does it explain our 11 match unbeaten run and relatively lofty position of sixth in the league? Is it simply due to the fact that BP has got his players extremely well organized or do we have a bit more about us this season and, if so, what is that?
Alternatively is it a fluke that we are unbeaten in the league and a false reflection of our true worth as a side?
Or is BP just a "lucky" manager who seems to have the decisions go his way?
Interested to hear your thoughts.
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Because we have a very strong defence, play in a defensive way taking very few attacking risks, and are difficult to breakdown.8
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Maybe so but does that alone explain why we are unbeaten? You'd have thought we'd still have lost at least one of those 11 games.AFKABartram said:Because we have a very strong defence, play in a defensive way taking very few attacking risks, and are difficult to breakdown.
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What he said plus we have a striker in Igor who, when given the service, scores more often than not.
Also this is a fairly level division and we're up to the general standard at least, maybe a bit above.0 -
Heard a very strange comment after the game today, and if you are on here you should hang your head in shame
"I really cant cheer for us the way we have been playing this season"
seriously WTF, and you could tell it was not meant as a joke he was being serious5 -
some of you are really embarrassing yourselves right now2
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Bloke behind me in the East Stand was saying similar things today ...he also commented during the Wolves game that charlton and wolves were the worst two teams in the division ...some people are only happy if we are losing as it justifies their criticismpaulie8290 said:Heard a very strange comment after the game today, and if you are on here you should hang your head in shame
"I really cant cheer for us the way we have been playing this season"
seriously WTF, and you could tell it was not meant as a joke he was being serious7 -
Because undefeated and winning don't mean the same thing.
Can't complain where we are in the table compared to last year, but it's disappointing not to win games like today.5 -
It has been a good start to the season make no mistake. Last season we lost at home to Boro and Brum so disappointing though the results against them are I was more disappointed last year against those two.
Maybe what frustrates people is that we have set our stall out to play the way we do, and what you gain in some areas with our style, you lose in other areas of our play. Looking at Birmingham today there were maybe two of their players who would improve our team Cotterill and Arthur.
However we could be improved if we had the wherewithal, especially with regard to helping out Igor a bit more. Believe it or not, Simon Church would buy us more breathing space in forward play than we had today, but we probably still need that available 9 shirt filled.
The football is not at all rubbish in my opinion, I prefer it to constant long balls and aerial battles that we would probably lose.
I am more than happy with 19 points from 11 games, and hope we can push on this season rather than fade away.1 -
Birmingham drew to Norwich last week and beat Millwall on Tuesday, they are not a poor team4
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Some people are just ridiculous. 6th in the leagues unbeaten after 11 games and people seem to be more angry when we draw than when we was constantly losing with Powell last year. I mean ffs, look at the difference of how we were doing last year to how we're doing this year.
I understand it's frustrating, going 1 up at home to a team like Birmingham after 11 minutes, you'd be hoping we could go on and teach them a lesson, that didn't happen and we gave away a lead again, yet we are still in the play offs, still 2 points off being top and still unbeaten, with one of our strikers scoring 6 goals in the first 11 games!
I get the frustration straight after the game, I really do but people are acting like we're bottom of the league.
I think people need to calm down, take a deep breathe and enjoy the season we've had so far. I can't be the only one forgetting what it feels like to lose, can I?19 -
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Who is moaning? We are competing and improving. Amazing 11 game run. Too many draws, but that is the story of this division. Whingers go home ffs...0
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Was it his lack of an apostrophe that bothered you?paulie8290 said:Heard a very strange comment after the game today, and if you are on here you should hang your head in shame
"I really cant cheer for us the way we have been playing this season"
seriously WTF, and you could tell it was not meant as a joke he was being serious
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Defence = Good
Taking chances =OK
Creating chances = Bad0 -
We're painful to watch however you dress it up. I think we've had a lot of luck....7
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A few people around me were saying we are absolutely rubbish. Strange really - perhaps there were happier when Bert and Ernie owned us0
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Aren't you always disappointed not to win games though?se9addick said:Because undefeated and winning don't mean the same thing.
Can't complain where we are in the table compared to last year, but it's disappointing not to win games like today.
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It's amazing that we are still unbeaten - even more so as we are such one man scoring team with only Igor (with six) scoring more than one League goal in open play this season. And he failed to find the net in the whole of September!
Clearly, it is also as much down to our defence and the way the Manager sets the team up.
After 14 games last season, Blackpool had 27 points. They then managed just 19 points from their final 32 matches and avoided relegation by just a couple of points. Let's just hope we are safe before the defence starts going missing and/or Igor runs out of steam.7 -
And if anyone's looking for another parallel with Blackpool then please look no further than the influence of Tom Ince. Six goals in his first 11 matches last season (where have I see that stat before?) he managed just one goal in his next 14 matches before joining Palace.Addick Addict said:It's amazing that we are still unbeaten - even more so as we are such one man scoring team with only Igor (with six) scoring more than one League goal in open play this season. And he failed to find the net in the whole of September!
Clearly, it is also as much down to our defence and the way the Manager sets the team up.
After 14 games last season, Blackpool had 27 points. They then managed just 19 points from their final 32 matches and avoided relegation by just a couple of points. Let's just hope we are safe before the defence starts going missing and/or Igor runs out of steam.
Not saying that the same should or will happen. But it does, perhaps, serve to explain BP's conservative attitude at times. He is just trying to make the most of what he's got and in doing so also building for the future.
And that involves promoting the kids, getting them involved in the match day squad rather than relying on someone like Churchy who really has very little in his locker that the world and his mother (and opposition defences) haven't seen a thousand times before.0 -
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We are definitely better than last year. We have definitely been lucky so far.0
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I can't fathom out how our binary bores are still unbeaten
I've seen Brentford and Wolves on a feed and been to the Watford and brighton games as well as today's and really think we've ridden our luck
We're as dull as we were last year but with better players who get better results (that doesn't make any sense whatsoever but some of you may understand what I mean)
Loving the points return and table position but there is not a hope in hell of us finishing top 8 without some new players because to me we look capable of easily having long winless streaks as it stands
Vetokele is a proper gem for us to have .1 -
With another goal scoring forward and an improved Buyens (and fit Johann) we potentially could remain in and around where we are at the mo. Defence is strong.3
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19 points after 11 league games 2014/2015
10 points after 11 games after 2013/2014
Tomorrow's fish and chip paper does not show points for artistic impression. Just hard graft and a bit of tactical nous.
Admittedly a good start can bite you on the arse when getting results and playing not well. A lovely and wonderful example of this is Scumwall at the beginning of December 1995 being top of the tree and relegated six months later.
Hopefully the latter won't happen.
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It may well bite us on the arseror then again we might start turning draws into wins and run away with the title
Chill out
Enjoy the ride!1 -
I aint seen us yet so can't comment on the style but what it says to me is that we are one or two pieces of the jigsaw missing and neither pieces anything to do with the mgr or owner
Seems a positive situation than negative1 -
Team is set up to not concede, so draws are inevitable.
However, keep them coming and sign some quality at Christmas and we could give it a real go.0 -
Bloody hell, comparisons with Blackpool. I wonder if Forest fans will be doing the same tomorrow should they not win against Ipswich...1
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I was always told that if a team is doing well but not playing well that it was the sign of a good team.
I think what AFKA & Henry said hits the nail on the head really.
Just need a little more depth and above all another striker and who knows what we could achieve.0 -
I think the main reason is Ben Haim Bikey and Henderson, they have been majestic2
