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ELTHAM ADDICKS MEETING TONIGHT CHANGE OF GUESTS TOBI SHO-SILVA,KURTIS CUMBERBATCH & TERRELL THOMAS

Due to unforeseen circumstances tonight's meeting will now be with 3 players from our under 21 squad.

Tobi Sho-Silva along with Terrel Thomas and kurtis Cumberbatch will now replace Nick Pope and Callum Harriott .

Please come along and support the boys.

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  • So the previous players bailed out and 3 kids were told to attend?
  • Sorry Badger, but I'm bailing out too. I can't be trekking over to New Eltham for some youth teamers, apologies.
  • Really poor form stuff like this.
  • How the hell did you get Sherlock Holmes to attend?
  • The fact that both have bailed makes it sound like it's a club decision rather than one of them not feeling well/fancying it ?
  • se9addick said:

    The fact that both have bailed makes it sound like it's a club decision rather than one of them not feeling well/fancying it ?

    I wonder if both are up for a loan move to accelerate their development? We have cover Left Midfield but would definitely need a back-up keeper coming in on loan to cover Hendo.
  • WSS said:

    How the hell did you get Sherlock Holmes to attend?

    And Terry Thomas....he's been dead 20 odd years.
  • Davo55 said:

    se9addick said:

    The fact that both have bailed makes it sound like it's a club decision rather than one of them not feeling well/fancying it ?

    I wonder if both are up for a loan move to accelerate their development? We have cover Left Midfield but would definitely need a back-up keeper coming in on loan to cover Hendo.
    It's nothing like that.
  • edited September 2014
    Tell all Airman
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  • well i went and enjoyed the evening.
  • That is poor form. No offence to the young lads intended but it's not what most want to travel for. Wonder if all will be revealed
  • edited September 2014

    Tell all Airman

    It's Badger's event and I think it's up to him what he discloses here. But It's nothing important or remarkable - and it's not peculiar to the current regime.
  • Tell all Airman

    It's Badger's event and I think it's up to him what he discloses here. But It's nothing important or remarkable - and it's not peculiar to the current regime.
    So you have nothing to add except your name to the thread?
  • I Shall put up some notes tomorrow.
  • Tell all Airman

    It's Badger's event and I think it's up to him what he discloses here. But It's nothing important or remarkable - and it's not peculiar to the current regime.
    So you have nothing to add except your name to the thread?
    I am adding that players going out on loan is not a factor. Hope that's clear for you.
    It's not clear to be honest, you haven't said anything about why pope and Harriet didn't make it, just insinuated that you know something we dont know ner ner ner ner ner

    its boring now airman.
  • The playing management have been buggering supporters' groups around for years by changing their plans on a whim. This has been true under all managers and owners, so it's not peculiar to Bob Peeters or RD.

    This is another whim and the underlying message is that you the fans don't matter, we'll do what we like - not the individual players, the football management collectively.

    I was involved in what happened today by Badger but I'm not comfortable disclosing what I learned as a result, other than to say it's not transfer related and it's not significant. If he wants to tell you he will.

  • edited September 2014
    Not impressed if that is 'player management' attitude towards fans. I've quite taken to Big Bad Bob up to now, but would be rather disappointed if he had a strop and took it out on Eltham Addicks just because we failed to do any deadline day deals.... someone please reassure me that he is not that shallow.
  • edited September 2014
    1. The boys had been given a few days off at short notice and have jumped on a plane.(not together)
    2.The last two big mistakes were callum at brentford and nick 2nd goal Derby. negative reaction on social media, makes then cry off.
    3.Big bob not keen on his players being put under microscope with Q and A. (why would u21's turn up?)

    Well Badger that's what you get, speculation ?
    when fans don't know the reason why.
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  • Just hoping it is (1), @soapboxsam‌ as that would just about be excusable...
  • edited September 2014

    Not impressed if that is 'player management' attitude towards fans. I've quite taken to Big Bad Bob up to now, but would be rather disappointed if he had a strop and took it out on Eltham Addicks just because we failed to do any deadline day deals.... someone please reassure me that he is not that shallow.

    It's not a strop, just a complete disconnect. The football side of the club doesn't get that there is a problem or if there is that it matters. They never have.

    The point that you can't sensibly send relatively unknown young players out to a public meeting on their own has been made numerous times, but time and again it comes back up.

    We had huge rows internally on this; refusal to name players attending in time that events could be advertised in advance; players just deciding on the day not to bother; and last minute withdrawals - and the group organisers know of some of the problems over the years.

    Of course there were some occasions when problems arose for legitimate reasons, including injuries, loans etc, but there was also an issue that nobody on the football side really gave any weight to the efforts of fans in organising and attending events, because that's not how the game is structured and the power is all with the manager (head coach).

    In the end, Wendy and I refused point blank to be involved any more after fans were let down once too often at short notice - and that was under Chris Powell. The chief exec agreed with us. He couldn't shift the playing side either.

    So no, cafcdave, we didn't keep quiet when employed, we kicked up a stink, but in the end there was nothing we could do to change what seems to be a deep-seated problem of attitude.

    But it wouldn't be fair to pin it on Peeters alone.
  • Just hoping it is (1), @soapboxsam‌ as that would just about be excusable...

    Agree Weegie, (1) would be my choice. if (2) sad. if (3) Very bad PR.

    or another reason ?

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  • There is a Fans Forum meeting tomorrow I expect it will be discussed then
  • Badger said:

    I Shall put up some notes tomorrow.

    Look forward to it, hope the night went well
  • thanks AB, you have been very insightful on this one and I guess this is not a Charlton only problem but a culture that includes most clubs, let's hope that Badger throws a light on the reason behind the last minute change as well as how the evening went.
  • Perhaps if the supporters group/branches came under 1 umbrella and had say 3 q&a nights a year spread around the areas it would be better attended.
    Instead we have eltham addicks, east kent addicks, Bromley addicks, city addicks, the trust, g21, left handed vegan knights that go neee addicks and the rest all wanting meetings.
  • Perhaps if the supporters group/branches came under 1 umbrella and had say 3 q&a nights a year spread around the areas it would be better attended.
    Instead we have eltham addicks, east kent addicks, Bromley addicks, city addicks, the trust, g21, left handed vegan knights that go neee addicks and the rest all wanting meetings.

    Only four of those have regular Q & As (Eltham, Bromley, East Kent and the Trust) to my knowledge. I know you were joking but there really aren't that many groups asking for guests although there are other groups (CADSA is one for example) but they don't have regular meetings.

    Speaking for Bromley we have 6 meetings a year of which one is usually with current players and one with current team management (next week if you care)

    The rest we source ourselves eg Eddie Youds at Christmas.

    So one meeting a year with current players. If that is the same for the others then that is just 4 over a whole season.

    Hardly a huge drain on the Club although they do provide players for other activities such as half-tern courses, sponsors, the Community Trust, Hospital visits at Xmas all of which are good and worthy.

    The Club asks Bromley Addicks to provide dates in the summer and did the same for Eltham Addicks. They will have had this date for some time.

    It is co-ordinated by Club staff at Sparrows Lane.

    So having too many groups or independent groups is not an issue.

    The main impact on attendances are, IMHO, not frequency but uncertainty. Covered End regularly attend such events but decided not to due to the late change.

    If guests were announced (by the Club) earlier and then those people turned up I believe people would be more inclined to attend.

    There has been problems which how this is arranged and enforced at the Club's end for many years and under many managers and owners so this isn't new.
  • Three @Henry Irving‌, three!
    The Trust does not do Q&A evenings with players. Never has done as not part of what it does. It does have a relationship with the club chairman (which is what the large majority of fans want) but events with Richard Murray are not arranged via CAFC.
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