Sport of Kings discussion thread
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Why just the Arc? If the argument is sound then all Group 1's would be appropriate.Lincsaddick said:about time that the Prix de l'arc did away with weight allowances for fillies & mares .. if they're good enough to start favourite against the colts and stallions, they are good enough not to need a big advantage .. this is a good article
https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/why-fillies-mares dont-need-weight-allowance-highest-level/
Not that losing the 3lb allowance Enable got would have made a blind bit of difference!0 -
bobmunro said:
Why just the Arc? If the argument is sound then all Group 1's would be appropriate.Lincsaddick said:about time that the Prix de l'arc did away with weight allowances for fillies & mares .. if they're good enough to start favourite against the colts and stallions, they are good enough not to need a big advantage .. this is a good article
https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/why-fillies-mares dont-need-weight-allowance-highest-level/
Not that losing the 3lb allowance Enable got would have made a blind bit of difference!
Agrred .. I was really using the arc just as an example .. the article that I found after I typed my post reinforces your point
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Agreed.Lincsaddick said:bobmunro said:
Why just the Arc? If the argument is sound then all Group 1's would be appropriate.Lincsaddick said:about time that the Prix de l'arc did away with weight allowances for fillies & mares .. if they're good enough to start favourite against the colts and stallions, they are good enough not to need a big advantage .. this is a good article
https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/articles/why-fillies-mares dont-need-weight-allowance-highest-level/
Not that losing the 3lb allowance Enable got would have made a blind bit of difference!
Agrred .. I was really using the arc just as an example .. the article that I found after I typed my post reinforces your point
Weight for age I haven't got a problem with - a four year old colt or filly is much bigger and stronger than a three year old. But not weight for sex.
It won't change though - the rules of racing very rarely do!!1 -
An interesting article here, which I suppose suggests there's not much of a discrepancy, but male horses generally tend to be ever so slightly better: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/28/sport/horse-racing-male-female/index.html
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Geraghty over for one ride at Warwick.... 2,15.4
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Francis Xavier - Lingfield 4.000
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thanks for the spot .. nice little earner albeit at 5/6 ((:>) .. yet another JPMc hurdler to watch out for this coming seasonsralan said:Geraghty over for one ride at Warwick.... 2,15.
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Third - sorry if anyone got on!Addickted2TheReds said:Francis Xavier - Lingfield 4.00
Slow out of the stalls, was chasing from there, did well to mount a challenge and just didn't have it in the final furlong.
Slow start killed it.0 -
Here are four horses to put in your tracker for upcoming jumps season,I'm involved in the ownership of all four.We expect all four to win races and hopefully at least one of them will make the Cheltenham Festival next year
Duhallow Gesture (A.Honeyball)
East Wing (A.Honeyball)
My Dance (A.Honeyball)
Oxford Blu (O.Murphy)4 - Sponsored links:
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Best of luck with these four KK - a dream of mine is to have a runner at Cheltenham.killer kish said:Here are four horses to put in your tracker for upcoming jumps season,I'm involved in the ownership of all four.We expect all four to win races and hopefully at least one of them will make the Cheltenham Festival next year
Duhallow Gesture (A.Honeyball)
East Wing (A.Honeyball)
My Dance (A.Honeyball)
Oxford Blu (O.Murphy)0 -
Cheers Bob and yes a dream of mine too
Duhallow is being aimed at the bumper at the Open meeting in November all being well0 -
Warwick is a decent little course. I'd definitely return.0
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Austrian School...... 1.55 Pontefract.4
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Great news that Enable is going to be kept in training next year. Be interesting to see if they will still try to keep her and Cracksman apart. I can't see how they can, as they're likely to have similar targets (1m 4f group 1 contests) up to next year's Arc.1
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nice drift aswell, cheerssralan said:Austrian School...... 1.55 Pontefract.
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decent card today at newmarket skybet go money back as a free bet if horse you back comes 2nd or 3rd, the fave should go well i think.0
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Backed Laurens at 10/1 (which won), but had it in a double with Dabyah (which came last).
Didn't do singles either.0 -
hard afternoon's reading and comparing form for a £3 profit, (I won't spend it all at once) .. and that was from an E/W punt on Gordon Lord Byron at 66/1 .. any horse at that price with Atzeni on board has to be worth a small wager0
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Expert Eye in The Dewhurst tomorrow is a cast iron certainty. Best price 8/13 (yes, anyone can tip odds on!!) but best priced 4/1 for next year's 2000 Guineas will disappear after tomorrow's race.0
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Each to their own obviously but 4/1 about a horse 6/7 months out doesn't strike me as that appealing! Part of the bet involves him just getting there and already had some time off for niggling issues this year1
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Atzeni (again) .. Laws of Spin .. 3.40 NewMk ... E/W0
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Well that didn't go to plan for Expert Eye0
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One of those bookies 'cast iron certainty' eh bob ;-)bobmunro said:Expert Eye in The Dewhurst tomorrow is a cast iron certainty. Best price 8/13 (yes, anyone can tip odds on!!) but best priced 4/1 for next year's 2000 Guineas will disappear after tomorrow's race.
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I'll stick to being a layer!!ValleyGary said:
One of those bookies 'cast iron certainty' eh bob ;-)bobmunro said:Expert Eye in The Dewhurst tomorrow is a cast iron certainty. Best price 8/13 (yes, anyone can tip odds on!!) but best priced 4/1 for next year's 2000 Guineas will disappear after tomorrow's race.
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Any advice on the Cheltenham festival? Group of about 6 of us want to do it this year. Where to stay, go out, what enclosure etc?
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We always go to the Club Enclosure as it has the best view. Early bird price now on sale. We prefer to go and return on the day by train. Most accommodation will already be sold out, so get cracking if you want to stay within 30 miles.Cafc95 said:Any advice on the Cheltenham festival? Group of about 6 of us want to do it this year. Where to stay, go out, what enclosure etc?
Any advice appreciated
Everywhere is packed in the evenings, but I can't say we've ever found anywhere memorable, which is why we now prefer to return on the day. Tuesday-Thursday will be rammed and Friday you can barely move.
It's possibly the best day/week of the year.
http://cheltenham.thejockeyclub.co.uk/events-tickets/whats-on/the-festival-st-patricks-day0 -
@cafc95 we go every year doing weds and Thursday this year
Weds - club enclosure
Thursday - Guiness village
We always stay in Birmingham about 40 mins on train from Cheltenham0 -
thanks for the help!Covered End said:
We always go to the Club Enclosure as it has the best view. Early bird price now on sale. We prefer to go and return on the day by train. Most accommodation will already be sold out, so get cracking if you want to stay within 30 miles.Cafc95 said:Any advice on the Cheltenham festival? Group of about 6 of us want to do it this year. Where to stay, go out, what enclosure etc?
Any advice appreciated
Everywhere is packed in the evenings, but I can't say we've ever found anywhere memorable, which is why we now prefer to return on the day. Tuesday-Thursday will be rammed and Friday you can barely move.
It's possibly the best day/week of the year.
http://cheltenham.thejockeyclub.co.uk/events-tickets/whats-on/the-festival-st-patricks-day1
