A) never been asked to renew. Is this just Henry's way of starting a thread?? ;-)
Nor have I ...always need to send them a reminder rather than the correct way round
I think Henry might pay yearly and not monthly.
Indeed I do hence the reminder.
Aha! Next question then should be do you win more statistically if you pay yearly and are asked to confirm payment...or if you pay monthly and no-one ever calls you to confirm they still have your ball in the draw!! ;-)
I suspect, on a personal level alone...the former!! :-)
If the supporters trust was to absorb Valley Gold (?) How would members feel? And let's assume that all member benefits remain the same!
Valley Gold has been going for 25 years and raised £2.5m
What have the Trust done to presume that that could or should "absorb" Valley Gold.
Unbelievable arrogance and yet another example of the Trust wanting to not just have a finger in every pie but to claim the whole pie.
Who said anything about could or should? The question was "how would members feel" and that is very important.
FROM VALLEY GOLD Valley Gold enables fans to support the club in unearthing the talents of tomorrow.
FROM CASTRUST To actively support Charlton Athletic Football Club in achieving success both on and off the pitch. To assist in preserving the long term future of the Club, it’s history, culture, values and identity in our Community.
They share common genders and that is a fact.
Its a shame that you have turned one mans thought into a vindictive and spiteful jibe towards the CASTrust
A trust board member floats the idea of "absorbing" a much bigger, much more successful and far longer running organisation and the response from that Trust board member is to pretend that it is OK as the two organisations have similar "genders" (sic) and then launch a personal attack on me.
No doubt the rest of the groupthinkers will be wading in over the course of the next few days.
But nowhere do you answer the questions of why a Trust board member would even consider "absorbing " (Trust language for takeover and claim all the credit) another organisation.
Yet again the Trust board shows that it speaks before it thinks and that it is totally unable to deal with or listen to the slightest bit of criticism.
If it could the first response would have been "Sorry, absorb was a silly word to use, apologies to Valley Gold, we have no plans to takeover Valley Gold or any other supporters organisation".
That even the thought of such a clarification didn't even figure in your attack shows just how the Trust board thinks and how far off course it is.
I would have thought the question (I assume it hasn't) should have first been directed at the organisers of Valley Gold. If both parties agree a merger would be mutually beneficial and there would be no change in the distribution of monies raised by both parties then it might make sense.
A trust board member floats the idea of "absorbing" a much bigger, much more successful and far longer running organisation and the response from another Trust board member is to pretend that it is OK as the two organisations have similar "genders" (sic) and then launch a personal attack on me.
No doubt the rest of the groupthinkers will be wading in over the course of the next few days.
But nowhere do you answer the questions of why a Trust board member would even consider "absorbing " (Trust language for takeover and claim all the credit) another organisation.
Yet again the Trust board shows that it speaks before it thinks and that it is totally unable to deal with or listen to the slightest bit of criticism.
If it could the first response would have been "Sorry, absorb was a silly word to use, apologies to Valley Gold, we have no plans to takeover Valley Gold or any other supporters organisation".
That even the thought of such a clarification didn't even figure in your attack shows just how the Trust board thinks and how far off course it is.
But your criticism is aimed at me, this is nothing to do with CASTRUST. Its feels like you are trying to censor me, but you aren't going to belittle me.
I am both a huge fan of Valley Gold and the Supporters Trust, but foremost like you, I am a Charlton supporter.
Are you saying that they do not share some of the same agendas? You could put it the other way around Valley Gold absorbing the TRUST.
If the supporters trust was to absorb Valley Gold (?) How would members feel? And let's assume that all member benefits remain the same!
Valley Gold has been going for 25 years and raised £2.5m
What have the Trust done to presume that that could or should "absorb" Valley Gold.
Unbelievable arrogance and yet another example of the Trust wanting to not just have a finger in every pie but to claim the whole pie.
FYI: This isn't a Trust policy, but how dare anyone on the board have any independent thought, please take your groupthink tablets everyone and repeat the secret mantra ten times...
A trust board member floats the idea of "absorbing" a much bigger, much more successful and far longer running organisation and the response from another Trust board member is to pretend that it is OK as the two organisations have similar "genders" (sic) and then launch a personal attack on me.
No doubt the rest of the groupthinkers will be wading in over the course of the next few days.
But nowhere do you answer the questions of why a Trust board member would even consider "absorbing " (Trust language for takeover and claim all the credit) another organisation.
Yet again the Trust board shows that it speaks before it thinks and that it is totally unable to deal with or listen to the slightest bit of criticism.
If it could the first response would have been "Sorry, absorb was a silly word to use, apologies to Valley Gold, we have no plans to takeover Valley Gold or any other supporters organisation".
That even the thought of such a clarification didn't even figure in your attack shows just how the Trust board thinks and how far off course it is.
But your criticism is aimed at me, this is nothing to do with CASTRUST.
You could put it the other way around Valley Gold absorbing the TRUST.
So when a Trust board member floats the idea of the Trust taking over another organisation that is nothing to do with the Trust. How do you work that out? Really, just how do you not see that it IS to do with the Trust as you, and no one else, raised the issue of the Trust and you are on the Trust board.
"You could put it the other way around Valley Gold absorbing the Trust"
But you didn't, you raised the issue of the Trust absorbing VG, not merging, not working together, not learning from their vastly greater experience but you "absorbing" them.
A) Been in from the start, have supported all the reasons it's existed and am proud of the contribution it's made to the youth setup. I renew automatically thanks to DD but would do anyway. Plus they put a grand in my account a couple of years ago, which was nice.
A trust board member floats the idea of "absorbing" a much bigger, much more successful and far longer running organisation and the response from another Trust board member is to pretend that it is OK as the two organisations have similar "genders" (sic) and then launch a personal attack on me.
No doubt the rest of the groupthinkers will be wading in over the course of the next few days.
But nowhere do you answer the questions of why a Trust board member would even consider "absorbing " (Trust language for takeover and claim all the credit) another organisation.
Yet again the Trust board shows that it speaks before it thinks and that it is totally unable to deal with or listen to the slightest bit of criticism.
If it could the first response would have been "Sorry, absorb was a silly word to use, apologies to Valley Gold, we have no plans to takeover Valley Gold or any other supporters organisation".
That even the thought of such a clarification didn't even figure in your attack shows just how the Trust board thinks and how far off course it is.
But your criticism is aimed at me, this is nothing to do with CASTRUST.
You could put it the other way around Valley Gold absorbing the TRUST.
So when a Trust board member floats the idea of the Trust taking over another organisation that is nothing to do with the Trust. How do you work that out? Really, just how do you not see that it IS to do with the Trust as you, and no one else, raised the issue of the Trust and you are on the Trust board.
"You could put it the other way around Valley Gold absorbing the Trust"
But you didn't, you raised the issue of the Trust absorbing VG, not merging, not working together, not learning from their vastly greater experience but you "absorbing" them.
And still no apology to VG.
An apology for what exactly? The audacity for you even ask me is beyond belief.
As Barnie has already stated, this is not in the Trust Policy.
I personally think that The Trust and Valley Gold would be stronger united as one. My opinions are not always reflected by the Trust, but of course that goes both ways. Now how about you apologise to me?
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I like to see our player make through to the prem.
I suspect, on a personal level alone...the former!! :-)
And let's assume that all member benefits remain the same!
Learn to walk before you start running
What have the Trust done to presume that that could or should "absorb" Valley Gold.
Unbelievable arrogance and yet another example of the Trust wanting to not just have a finger in every pie but to claim the whole pie.
FROM VALLEY GOLD
Valley Gold enables fans to support the club in unearthing the talents of tomorrow.
FROM CASTRUST
To actively support Charlton Athletic Football Club in achieving success both on and off the pitch.
To assist in preserving the long term future of the Club, it’s history, culture, values and identity in our Community.
They share common genders and that is a fact.
Its a shame that you have turned one mans thought into a vindictive and spiteful jibe towards the CASTrust
A trust board member floats the idea of "absorbing" a much bigger, much more successful and far longer running organisation and the response from that Trust board member is to pretend that it is OK as the two organisations have similar "genders" (sic) and then launch a personal attack on me.
No doubt the rest of the groupthinkers will be wading in over the course of the next few days.
But nowhere do you answer the questions of why a Trust board member would even consider "absorbing " (Trust language for takeover and claim all the credit) another organisation.
Yet again the Trust board shows that it speaks before it thinks and that it is totally unable to deal with or listen to the slightest bit of criticism.
If it could the first response would have been "Sorry, absorb was a silly word to use, apologies to Valley Gold, we have no plans to takeover Valley Gold or any other supporters organisation".
That even the thought of such a clarification didn't even figure in your attack shows just how the Trust board thinks and how far off course it is.
But your criticism is aimed at me, this is nothing to do with CASTRUST. Its feels like you are trying to censor me, but you aren't going to belittle me.
I am both a huge fan of Valley Gold and the Supporters Trust, but foremost like you, I am a Charlton supporter.
Are you saying that they do not share some of the same agendas? You could put it the other way around Valley Gold absorbing the TRUST.
"You could put it the other way around Valley Gold absorbing the Trust"
But you didn't, you raised the issue of the Trust absorbing VG, not merging, not working together, not learning from their vastly greater experience but you "absorbing" them.
And still no apology to VG.
As Barnie has already stated, this is not in the Trust Policy.
I personally think that The Trust and Valley Gold would be stronger united as one. My opinions are not always reflected by the Trust, but of course that goes both ways. Now how about you apologise to me?