Match officials are human, and humans make mistakes in all walks of life. This human nature is exacerbated in football by the speed of the game and the need for instant decisions. For more correct decisions, we must start with clubs taking greater responsibility by getting their players to refrain from diving, appealing for decisions which clearly are not theirs and all other forms of conning the officials. If we still have a problem thereafter, I guess we would have to look at more technology or more match officials, such as one referee per half. Sadly, the human error will never be completely eradicated from our beloved game.
Did I read some statistics recently which stated that match officials get 93% of all major decisions right? That to me is pretty impressive.
If I recall, you used to be a ref? I also used to referee (local park standard) for a number of years and through doing so, you appreciate how hard it can actually be. There has been times when I've missed a blatant foul because a player has run across my path of vision at that moment, blocking my view. Although I had strong suspicions of the offence being committed, that's not enough in my book. If I didn't see it, I didn't give it. The main difference between park football and professional is the linesman refs assistant. At park level, these are supplied by the 2 teams and 90% of the time were either clueless or blatant cheats, so would find myself ignoring them for the majority of the time.
However, I've gotta say, I've seen some baffling decisions this season and do think the general standard at championship level if pretty poor...............
Iain Williamson has refereed two Charlton matches...
27.11.2012 - When we beat Peterborough United 2-0 at the Valley 05.05.2012 - When we beat Hartlepool United 3-2 at the Valley and lifted the League One Trophy
Is travelling from Berkshire tonight so thankfully no Northern bloke with a love for Yorkshire
Iain Williamson has refereed two Charlton matches...
27.11.2012 - When we beat Peterborough United 2-0 at the Valley 05.05.2012 - When we beat Hartlepool United 3-2 at the Valley and lifted the League One Trophy
Is travelling from Berkshire tonight so thankfully no Northern bloke with a love for Yorkshire
Yeah, Tango, I agree some baffling decisions FROM MY ANGLE. We all complain about the poor decisions, but there has to be a partnership between clubs and match officials if the level of decision making is going to improve. It is no good manager A complaining when say and opponent has dived, and a penalty wrongly awarded, if that manager does not discourage his players from doing the same thing. What goes round comes around.
Iain Williamson has refereed two Charlton matches...
27.11.2012 - When we beat Peterborough United 2-0 at the Valley 05.05.2012 - When we beat Hartlepool United 3-2 at the Valley and lifted the League One Trophy
Is travelling from Berkshire tonight so thankfully no Northern bloke with a love for Yorkshire
But his mistress is a Millwall fan - allegedly
And he has a signed photo of Dickie Bird on his living room wall
Agree that it's not easy Peter. I'd like to think it evens itself out but we have had some shocking decisions against us this season. Last time out at home the ref missed blatant fouls and pushes and failed to do anything to stop persistent fouling. Linesman also missed them and some blatant handballs - all very obvious. Sadly too often in this season above most that's been the case.
Williamson's record so far this season is games officiated: 22, cards: 64 yellow, with two coming in the same game, for the same player accounting for the only red card he's shown this season.
I can't be the only one who thinks that referees are overly nice to the away team. Time after time after time after time, they're so inconsistent with their decision making and always give the oppo freekicks where we would never get a look in. The prime example when their player pushed into the back of poyet, he waved it away. Literally 20 seconds later at most wiggins did the same thing and he gave them a freekick. Try and defend them all you like, REFS ARE W*NKERS
Match officials are human, and humans make mistakes in all walks of life. This human nature is exacerbated in football by the speed of the game and the need for instant decisions. For more correct decisions, we must start with clubs taking greater responsibility by getting their players to refrain from diving, appealing for decisions which clearly are not theirs and all other forms of conning the officials. If we still have a problem thereafter, I guess we would have to look at more technology or more match officials, such as one referee per half. Sadly, the human error will never be completely eradicated from our beloved game.
Did I read some statistics recently which stated that match officials get 93% of all major decisions right? That to me is pretty impressive.
93% isn't that great. In my job we have SLAs of 99% and if they are missed we are heavily fined. Would like to see a similar system brought in for match officials.
The refs do help themselves though, look at the shoulder barge on Poyet that wasn't given but 2 seconds later, a carbon copy barge and it was given. People just want consistency. I will not talk about the time wasting or the foul on Cousins right the end though
Once Cousins makes the PL he will learn to go down clutching his face when this happens! Glad he didn't today. Their player was booked, it was a outright to me, football has become too sanitised, that really was just handbags.
I was more annoyed the ref let them get away with constant time wasting from very early on without even warning them. No excuses for that.
What did/didn't they do that affected the result today? Serious question....I remember some bad decisions but not of any consequence?
I thought Cousins was fouled right at the end, on the edge of the box (not quite in the penalty area where he fell). He didn't give it.
We got a stingy 5 minutes of stoppage time, considering the number of injuries, substitutions and the fact that Barnsley started timewasting with about 20 minutes to go. That we only got 5 minutes wasn't his decision, but he blew for full time having barely played that five minutes, despite a goal and further timewasting that should have lead to another two minutes.
What did/didn't they do that affected the result today? Serious question....I remember some bad decisions but not of any consequence?
I thought Cousins was fouled right at the end, on the edge of the box (not quite in the penalty area where he fell). He didn't give it.
We got a stingy 5 minutes of stoppage time, considering the number of injuries, substitutions and the fact that Barnsley started timewasting with about 20 minutes to go. That we only got 5 minutes wasn't his decision, but he blew for full time having barely played that five minutes, despite a goal and further timewasting that should have lead to another two minutes.
Or I might just be bitter.
To be fair, I left in disgust in the 89th minute so you could well be right about any late incidents.
Match officials are human, and humans make mistakes in all walks of life. This human nature is exacerbated in football by the speed of the game and the need for instant decisions. For more correct decisions, we must start with clubs taking greater responsibility by getting their players to refrain from diving, appealing for decisions which clearly are not theirs and all other forms of conning the officials. If we still have a problem thereafter, I guess we would have to look at more technology or more match officials, such as one referee per half. Sadly, the human error will never be completely eradicated from our beloved game.
Did I read some statistics recently which stated that match officials get 93% of all major decisions right? That to me is pretty impressive.
Funny that. Players actually have to play the game at speed rather than just run about (Sordell excepted). They also have to make instant decisions. The difference is that, whilst players get yellow and red cards and suspensions for making incorrect decisions (all of which also affect us as supporters), referees carry on regardless. And if they are disciplined its all done in secret.
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Match officials are human, and humans make mistakes in all walks of life. This human nature is exacerbated in football by the speed of the game and the need for instant decisions. For more correct decisions, we must start with clubs taking greater responsibility by getting their players to refrain from diving, appealing for decisions which clearly are not theirs and all other forms of conning the officials. If we still have a problem thereafter, I guess we would have to look at more technology or more match officials, such as one referee per half. Sadly, the human error will never be completely eradicated from our beloved game.
Did I read some statistics recently which stated that match officials get 93% of all major decisions right? That to me is pretty impressive.
linesmanrefs assistant. At park level, these are supplied by the 2 teams and 90% of the time were either clueless or blatant cheats, so would find myself ignoring them for the majority of the time.However, I've gotta say, I've seen some baffling decisions this season and do think the general standard at championship level if pretty poor...............
27.11.2012 - When we beat Peterborough United 2-0 at the Valley
05.05.2012 - When we beat Hartlepool United 3-2 at the Valley and lifted the League One Trophy
Is travelling from Berkshire tonight so thankfully no Northern bloke with a love for Yorkshire
But his mistress is a Millwall fan - allegedly
Worst refereeing so far this season, and that's saying something
No but seriously , He was shite
That the answer, the ref has been so useless we are in this position!!
Let's make a complaint to the FA!
I was more annoyed the ref let them get away with constant time wasting from very early on without even warning them. No excuses for that.
Not sure what we did to upset him, but he didn't like us for some reason.
We got a stingy 5 minutes of stoppage time, considering the number of injuries, substitutions and the fact that Barnsley started timewasting with about 20 minutes to go. That we only got 5 minutes wasn't his decision, but he blew for full time having barely played that five minutes, despite a goal and further timewasting that should have lead to another two minutes.
Or I might just be bitter.