it shows that if we improved the commercial side we could be a top end club.
I am not sure that it is that simple. You will have several clubs, at least six, maybe more, who get vastly more TV money than us. It's impossible to address that imbalance through "commercial revenue".
Nevertheless the figures are interesting. For example I am baffled as to how Watford can earn so much more than us on every parameter. Watford????
it shows that if we improved the commercial side we could be a top end club.
I am not sure that it is that simple. You will have several clubs, at least six, maybe more, who get vastly more TV money than us. It's impossible to address that imbalance through "commercial revenue".
Nevertheless the figures are interesting. For example I am baffled as to how Watford can earn so much more than us on every parameter. Watford????
Bear in mind they got to Wembley last season whilst they featured quite heavily on TV too as the season drew to a close.
Also until Feb 2013, Saracens were playing at Vicarage Rd and the rent and share of matchday revenue (especially beer!) may have been quite generous in Watford's favour.
Interesting stuff. What it does show is that our matchday revenue - that is tickets, including season tickets, programmes and catering - is/was pretty good, even though our STs were very cheap by Championship standards in 2012/13. It also suggests that Millwall's pricing model isn't as daft as it seems. They appear to be doing relatively well by driving revenue from their hard core, the only strategy really available to them, whereas Palace weren't (as a caveat there is some estimation in the figures here) - even though my guess is that Palace's attendance was higher than ours once you strip out comps.
Their advantage over us is all commercial - sponsorship, hospitality, etc - and TV which we can't really control, but don't forget that our retail turnover (such as it is) has been stripped out of commercial by the club shop deal, which won't be the case elsewhere. I don't know much about commercial areas as I have never been involved in them, but I would say that 1) the club has never invested enough in them to maximise the return and 2) related to this, it's always been my view that there is a structural obstacle caused by our location and dispersed catchment.
it shows that if we improved the commercial side we could be a top end club.
I am not sure that it is that simple. You will have several clubs, at least six, maybe more, who get vastly more TV money than us. It's impossible to address that imbalance through "commercial revenue".
Nevertheless the figures are interesting. For example I am baffled as to how Watford can earn so much more than us on every parameter. Watford????
Seven clubs received parachute payments last season but only one (Hull City) was promoted and one (Wolves) was relegated. Charlton finished higher than five of the seven clubs with parachute monies. And this season the three relegated clubs are doing much better but none will secure automatic promotion. Only Watford and Charlton have sister clubs in Europe and this may prove just as valuable as parachute monies? What is fascinating is that there is a very weak correlation between league position and salaries - Clubs like Burnley and Derby with a 20m cost base (a shade higher than CAFC) can compete at the top. As I have posted before, if we can re-sign the best out of contract players and fully utilise duchatelet's Liege scouting network then I would expect to see us top half again next season!
it shows that if we improved the commercial side we could be a top end club.
I am not sure that it is that simple. You will have several clubs, at least six, maybe more, who get vastly more TV money than us. It's impossible to address that imbalance through "commercial revenue".
Nevertheless the figures are interesting. For example I am baffled as to how Watford can earn so much more than us on every parameter. Watford????
Seven clubs received parachute payments last season but only one (Hull City) was promoted and one (Wolves) was relegated. Charlton finished higher than five of the seven clubs with parachute monies. And this season the three relegated clubs are doing much better but none will secure automatic promotion. Only Watford and Charlton have sister clubs in Europe and this may prove just as valuable as parachute monies? What is fascinating is that there is a very weak correlation between league position and salaries - Clubs like Burnley and Derby with a 20m cost base (a shade higher than CAFC) can compete at the top. As I have posted before, if we can re-sign the best out of contract players and fully utilise duchatelet's Liege scouting network then I would expect to see us top half again next season!
Can you expand on this please? Getting in some sub standard loans from sister clubs better than x million pounds to invest in our own players?
I see your point but don't see it as either / or. It would be good if we van have both Liege and other players to add to what is a half decent squad once ten (?) players are released in the summer. Six players came across to SE7 very rapidly after the takeover. We have seen two of them become first team regulars. The arrival of Ajdarevic (and Poyet) has ensured that the sale of Stephens had no impact on the team. So four of the players are not in the team and it is very clear that Duchatelet and whoever makes player acquisition decisions needs to up their game this summer else they will be wasting time and money...his and ours! The most effective way to raise CAFC revenues is for the team to deliver better performances and results. Fixing the weakest parts of the squad using Liege players or acquiring players from Europe and Africa scouted by Liege is the advantage I can see in theory. However it's all about the execution. As others have posted on here I would prefer to see a group wide director of football - we certainly need some clarification on who is making decisions... For instance who will decide which club in the group will acquire a particular player and who sets the wage and acquisition budget. If it is Metre, Riga and Duchatelet then I question whether this is a strong enough team to get it right over the summer.
eloquently put as usual - hopefully they have learnt more about the standard of player required for this league (refuse to consider type of player needed for League 1 !!!!)
it shows that if we improved the commercial side we could be a top end club.
I am not sure that it is that simple. You will have several clubs, at least six, maybe more, who get vastly more TV money than us. It's impossible to address that imbalance through "commercial revenue".
Nevertheless the figures are interesting. For example I am baffled as to how Watford can earn so much more than us on every parameter. Watford????
Bear in mind they got to Wembley last season whilst they featured quite heavily on TV too as the season drew to a close.
Also until Feb 2013, Saracens were playing at Vicarage Rd and the rent and share of matchday revenue (especially beer!) may have been quite generous in Watford's favour.
Yes it subsequently occurred to me that Saracens earnings would be in there. Has it stopped now, as you indicate? I would imagine RD would look for a similar arrangement once he has installed a hybrid pitch, and indeed why not?
Thank you! I have put a fair bit of time into understanding the championship numbers. The fastest way for CAFC to break even is to become a yo-yo club and this was why I showed Karel Fraeye the play off trophy in the directors area when we met in February. At the time I thought he was a football analyst and had no idea he was being lined up to join CAFC coaching set up. I really hope he, Riga and the others are given the resources this summer. I know nothing of what makes a good academy prospect into a pro but I hear that Cousins and Poyet are only the first of a whole batch to break through... So I expect to see a big drop in the average age of the squad and I hope additional players are brought in where necessary.
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Nevertheless the figures are interesting. For example I am baffled as to how Watford can earn so much more than us on every parameter. Watford????
Also until Feb 2013, Saracens were playing at Vicarage Rd and the rent and share of matchday revenue (especially beer!) may have been quite generous in Watford's favour.
Their advantage over us is all commercial - sponsorship, hospitality, etc - and TV which we can't really control, but don't forget that our retail turnover (such as it is) has been stripped out of commercial by the club shop deal, which won't be the case elsewhere. I don't know much about commercial areas as I have never been involved in them, but I would say that 1) the club has never invested enough in them to maximise the return and 2) related to this, it's always been my view that there is a structural obstacle caused by our location and dispersed catchment.
Charlton finished higher than five of the seven clubs with parachute monies.
And this season the three relegated clubs are doing much better but none will secure automatic promotion. Only Watford and Charlton have sister clubs in Europe and this may prove just as valuable as parachute monies?
What is fascinating is that there is a very weak correlation between league position and salaries - Clubs like Burnley and Derby with a 20m cost base (a shade higher than CAFC) can compete at the top.
As I have posted before, if we can re-sign the best out of contract players and fully utilise duchatelet's Liege scouting network then I would expect to see us top half again next season!
Getting in some sub standard loans from sister clubs better than x million pounds to invest in our own players?
So four of the players are not in the team and it is very clear that Duchatelet and whoever makes player acquisition decisions needs to up their game this summer else they will be wasting time and money...his and ours!
The most effective way to raise CAFC revenues is for the team to deliver better performances and results. Fixing the weakest parts of the squad using Liege players or acquiring players from Europe and Africa scouted by Liege is the advantage I can see in theory. However it's all about the execution.
As others have posted on here I would prefer to see a group wide director of football - we certainly need some clarification on who is making decisions... For instance who will decide which club in the group will acquire a particular player and who sets the wage and acquisition budget. If it is Metre, Riga and Duchatelet then I question whether this is a strong enough team to get it right over the summer.
eloquently put as usual - hopefully they have learnt more about the standard of player required for this league (refuse to consider type of player needed for League 1 !!!!)
I would imagine RD would look for a similar arrangement once he has installed a hybrid pitch, and indeed why not?
I really hope he, Riga and the others are given the resources this summer. I know nothing of what makes a good academy prospect into a pro but I hear that Cousins and Poyet are only the first of a whole batch to break through...
So I expect to see a big drop in the average age of the squad and I hope additional players are brought in where necessary.