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Hamer's distribution

LenGloverLenGlover
edited April 2014 in General Charlton
Is his distribution poor or, rather like throw ins, is it that players don't move and give him options?

My view is the latter. I've seen him place kicks on a sixpence and he always looks, in vain, for the quick throw.

Lots of comments on the marks thread and elsewhere re Hamer's distribution so I thought it worth a thread.
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  • SwisdomSwisdom
    Without Yann we have no target. His kicking is superb. Has anyone here tried passing it 60 or 70 yards to pick someone out? It's bloody difficult!

    Besides - sponge foot up front never wins a header so that makes it look worse
  • LuckyRedsLuckyReds
    The latter I think. If you watch him you can see him get frustrated and try and gesture for players to pick up decent positions.

    When he tries to wait for players to get in position the crowd generally gets on his back and he's forced to punt it over in their general direction. It's a shame as I always felt his distribution was a big part of his game.
  • thenewbiethenewbie
    Definitely the latter, he can't start a move if there is no movement! A few numpties get on his back, and between that and his own understandable frustration his distribution gets more erratic and the vicious circle comes back around.
  • cblockcblock
    edited April 2014
    Full backs don't move for him, no point going through the centre as we have no target man, not a bad thing imho, the options are playing out wide like Deano used to do or using the back four.
  • HuskarisHuskaris
    His distribution is probably the best part of his game to be honest. Every game we haven't had him we've had Thuram (worse all round but also poor distribution) or Alnwick (better with some areas but poor distribution)

    He certainly can as someone said above pass onto a sixpence from a long way, it's the team that are lacking
  • RedChaserRedChaser
    edited April 2014
    Best 'footballing' goalkeeper I have had the pleasure to watch in a Charlton shirt over nearly six decades and if anyone disagrees tell me who was better and we can debate it but you will be wrong :-)
    Edit: before the real oldies dig me out I never saw Bartram who must have been good as he was a converted outfield player.
  • guinnessaddickguinnessaddick
    His distribution is second to none, don't know why we don't keep a couple of players on the half way line when defending corners to him to aim at, when he gets the ball.
  • dizzeedizzee
    Swisdom said:

    Without Yann we have no target. His kicking is superb. Has anyone here tried passing it 60 or 70 yards to pick someone out? It's bloody difficult!

    Besides - sponge foot up front never wins a header so that makes it look worse

    No. But if I was paid 5k a week I would be hitting church's noggin every time that's for sure.
  • 1StevieG1StevieG
    Distribution is superb. He doesn't take unnecessary risks with the quick throw and can pick out a player on the wing quite well with that arrowed low style kick.
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  • rinarina
    RedChaser said:

    Best 'footballing' goalkeeper I have had the pleasure to watch in a Charlton shirt over nearly six decades and if anyone disagrees tell me who was better and we can debate it but you will be wrong :-)
    Edit: before the real oldies dig me out I never saw Bartram who must have been good as he was a converted outfield player.

    Agreed, best distribution of any charlton keeper I've ever seen ainec
  • kentaddickkentaddick
    LenGlover's posts are poor. I've been watching his posts for a while and they seem to have some problems. If I was paid what he's paid I'd be a much better person and poster.
  • cblockcblock
    Maybe he goes to the the valley and watches us
  • Richard JRichard J
    I posted this on the player marks thread

    When the back pass rule came in the 90's it changed the keeper's priorities in my view, I remember hearing Nicky Johns say that this change was the deciding factor in his retirement from Maidstone United because he knew he could not adapt his game.

    The reason I marked Ben down yesterday was that on 2 occasions in the first half he nearly gave away possession in a dangerous area. I agree his general distribution is good I just wish he didn't take those sorts of risks.
  • SimonsenSimonsen
    edited April 2014
    He's one of our quicker thinking and more creative players....and Im not joking!
  • harveys_gardenerharveys_gardener
    At least three sixty yard passes to feet yesterday.
  • The Prince-e-PaulThe Prince-e-Paul
    His distribution against Derby was excellent, but the team were slow to react resulting in 60 yard balls to feet being wasted!
  • Sonicstud85Sonicstud85
    Hamers distribution is his second best attribute behind his beard!
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    His distribution has got quicker and better... Whenever the opposition would get a corner / chance etc... he would hold on to it forever and then simply boot it, now the Centre Backs (Morrison / Dervite) spread out and give him the option to roll to feet so we can start an attack...

    At the same time his kicking has got better... Against Reading I only remember the one kick that went out (in the first half as was slightly to high for Ajdarevic)
  • ElthamaddickElthamaddick
    Wanted by Leicester according to RC from the SLP
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  • PeterGagePeterGage
    Hamer can deliver a ball on the proverbial sixpence.....unfortunately that sixpence is often not placed on the pitch
  • soapy_jonessoapy_jones
    Just got a knock on the door. Fella three doors down.

    Delivery from Hamer apparantley...
  • guinnessaddickguinnessaddick
    PeterGage said:

    Hamer can deliver a ball on the proverbial sixpence.....unfortunately that sixpence is often not placed on the pitch

    I think he must have been told to aim all his goal kicks out towards the touch line, because after the second or third, you would think to change them.
  • Henry IrvingHenry Irving
    Leicester interested in Ben Hamer according to the SLP.

    Agent/paper talk? Who knows?

    Out of contract in the summer though. Brilliant strategy TJ and MS, thanks for everything you did for the club.
  • stonewallpenaltystonewallpenalty
    Henry Irving said:

    Leicester interested in Ben Hamer according to the SLP.

    Agent/paper talk? Who knows?

    Out of contract in the summer though. Brilliant strategy TJ and MS, thanks for everything you did for the club.

    Like sign Hamer?
  • AdamAddickAdamAddick
    If pope was our keeper next season it would not worry me
  • thenewbiethenewbie
    AdamAddick said:

    If pope was our keeper next season it would not worry me

    Nor me, though he is still young and while his performances have been very impressive it is quite a jump up to Championship (which of course we will still be in.) If he and Hamer are here to fight for the keeper's spot I will be a happy man regardless of which gets it. Get them signed up and we have two very good goalkeepers, we don't need to be shipping in any loanees or has beens in that role.
  • Athletico CharltonAthletico Charlton
    I watched the Pope video in his thread. Did nothing wrong but the saves were all relatively straight forward. Nota criticism as he has done what he has needed but I have no idea from that as to whether he is good enough and my guess is most others who post on here are the same.

    Can't see Hamer to Leicester personally, although he may go to another Champ club I guess.
  • HeisenbergHeisenberg
    Hamer is a confidence player. His distribution suffers when he knows he's dropped a clanger. When he's buzzing his kicking is spot on and you can see his frustration when the outfield players fail find space or look for a better position
  • RizzoRizzo
    guinnessaddick said:

    PeterGage said:

    Hamer can deliver a ball on the proverbial sixpence.....unfortunately that sixpence is often not placed on the pitch

    I think he must have been told to aim all his goal kicks out towards the touch line, because after the second or third, you would think to change them.
    This. When two or three opposition players are heading for the exact spot that your goal kick is aimed at before you've even placed the ball then it's probably time to mix it up a bit.

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