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Hamer's distribution
LenGlover
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Is his distribution poor or, rather like throw ins, is it that players don't move and give him options?
My view is the latter. I've seen him place kicks on a sixpence and he always looks, in vain, for the quick throw.
Lots of comments on the marks thread and elsewhere re Hamer's distribution so I thought it worth a thread.
My view is the latter. I've seen him place kicks on a sixpence and he always looks, in vain, for the quick throw.
Lots of comments on the marks thread and elsewhere re Hamer's distribution so I thought it worth a thread.
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Without Yann we have no target. His kicking is superb. Has anyone here tried passing it 60 or 70 yards to pick someone out? It's bloody difficult!
Besides - sponge foot up front never wins a header so that makes it look worse1 -
The latter I think. If you watch him you can see him get frustrated and try and gesture for players to pick up decent positions.
When he tries to wait for players to get in position the crowd generally gets on his back and he's forced to punt it over in their general direction. It's a shame as I always felt his distribution was a big part of his game.0 -
Definitely the latter, he can't start a move if there is no movement! A few numpties get on his back, and between that and his own understandable frustration his distribution gets more erratic and the vicious circle comes back around.0
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Full backs don't move for him, no point going through the centre as we have no target man, not a bad thing imho, the options are playing out wide like Deano used to do or using the back four.0
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His distribution is probably the best part of his game to be honest. Every game we haven't had him we've had Thuram (worse all round but also poor distribution) or Alnwick (better with some areas but poor distribution)
He certainly can as someone said above pass onto a sixpence from a long way, it's the team that are lacking0 -
Best 'footballing' goalkeeper I have had the pleasure to watch in a Charlton shirt over nearly six decades and if anyone disagrees tell me who was better and we can debate it but you will be wrong :-)
Edit: before the real oldies dig me out I never saw Bartram who must have been good as he was a converted outfield player.0 -
His distribution is second to none, don't know why we don't keep a couple of players on the half way line when defending corners to him to aim at, when he gets the ball.1
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No. But if I was paid 5k a week I would be hitting church's noggin every time that's for sure.Swisdom said:Without Yann we have no target. His kicking is superb. Has anyone here tried passing it 60 or 70 yards to pick someone out? It's bloody difficult!
Besides - sponge foot up front never wins a header so that makes it look worse0 -
I'd pay you 10k a week if you could hit Church's noggin every week because it is usually level with his shoulders a la Gladstone Small.dizzee said:
No. But if I was paid 5k a week I would be hitting church's noggin every time that's for sure.Swisdom said:Without Yann we have no target. His kicking is superb. Has anyone here tried passing it 60 or 70 yards to pick someone out? It's bloody difficult!
Besides - sponge foot up front never wins a header so that makes it look worse
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Distribution is superb. He doesn't take unnecessary risks with the quick throw and can pick out a player on the wing quite well with that arrowed low style kick.0
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Agreed, best distribution of any charlton keeper I've ever seen ainecRedChaser said:Best 'footballing' goalkeeper I have had the pleasure to watch in a Charlton shirt over nearly six decades and if anyone disagrees tell me who was better and we can debate it but you will be wrong :-)
Edit: before the real oldies dig me out I never saw Bartram who must have been good as he was a converted outfield player.0 -
LenGlover's posts are poor. I've been watching his posts for a while and they seem to have some problems. If I was paid what he's paid I'd be a much better person and poster.4
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Maybe he goes to the the valley and watches us0
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I posted this on the player marks thread
When the back pass rule came in the 90's it changed the keeper's priorities in my view, I remember hearing Nicky Johns say that this change was the deciding factor in his retirement from Maidstone United because he knew he could not adapt his game.
The reason I marked Ben down yesterday was that on 2 occasions in the first half he nearly gave away possession in a dangerous area. I agree his general distribution is good I just wish he didn't take those sorts of risks.
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He's one of our quicker thinking and more creative players....and Im not joking!1
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At least three sixty yard passes to feet yesterday.1
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His distribution against Derby was excellent, but the team were slow to react resulting in 60 yard balls to feet being wasted!0
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Hamers distribution is his second best attribute behind his beard!0
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His distribution has got quicker and better... Whenever the opposition would get a corner / chance etc... he would hold on to it forever and then simply boot it, now the Centre Backs (Morrison / Dervite) spread out and give him the option to roll to feet so we can start an attack...
At the same time his kicking has got better... Against Reading I only remember the one kick that went out (in the first half as was slightly to high for Ajdarevic)0 -
Wanted by Leicester according to RC from the SLP0
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Hamer can deliver a ball on the proverbial sixpence.....unfortunately that sixpence is often not placed on the pitch3
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Just got a knock on the door. Fella three doors down.
Delivery from Hamer apparantley...0 -
I think he must have been told to aim all his goal kicks out towards the touch line, because after the second or third, you would think to change them.PeterGage said:Hamer can deliver a ball on the proverbial sixpence.....unfortunately that sixpence is often not placed on the pitch
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Leicester interested in Ben Hamer according to the SLP.
Agent/paper talk? Who knows?
Out of contract in the summer though. Brilliant strategy TJ and MS, thanks for everything you did for the club.3 -
Like sign Hamer?Henry Irving said:Leicester interested in Ben Hamer according to the SLP.
Agent/paper talk? Who knows?
Out of contract in the summer though. Brilliant strategy TJ and MS, thanks for everything you did for the club.1 -
If pope was our keeper next season it would not worry me0
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Nor me, though he is still young and while his performances have been very impressive it is quite a jump up to Championship (which of course we will still be in.) If he and Hamer are here to fight for the keeper's spot I will be a happy man regardless of which gets it. Get them signed up and we have two very good goalkeepers, we don't need to be shipping in any loanees or has beens in that role.AdamAddick said:If pope was our keeper next season it would not worry me
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I watched the Pope video in his thread. Did nothing wrong but the saves were all relatively straight forward. Nota criticism as he has done what he has needed but I have no idea from that as to whether he is good enough and my guess is most others who post on here are the same.
Can't see Hamer to Leicester personally, although he may go to another Champ club I guess.0 -
Hamer is a confidence player. His distribution suffers when he knows he's dropped a clanger. When he's buzzing his kicking is spot on and you can see his frustration when the outfield players fail find space or look for a better position0
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This. When two or three opposition players are heading for the exact spot that your goal kick is aimed at before you've even placed the ball then it's probably time to mix it up a bit.guinnessaddick said:
I think he must have been told to aim all his goal kicks out towards the touch line, because after the second or third, you would think to change them.PeterGage said:Hamer can deliver a ball on the proverbial sixpence.....unfortunately that sixpence is often not placed on the pitch
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