NEW Charlton head coach Jose Riga has revealed he has yet to sign a contract at the club following his appointment on Tuesday
OS lying to us about him being a permanent manager then? Zzzzz... not believing a word coming out of the club at the moment, we are being told what we want to hear, not the truth.
Sacking Chris Powell and appointing some foreign nobody certainly wasn't what I wanted to hear.
Interesting that Dyer picked the team, as the formation/approach was extremely different to what a typical Powell side would look like.
Was it?! Defence identical, midfield identical with the exception of maybe tudgay for reza (but possibly not after Sunday). Adjarevic has played off the forward previously, at SW.
Good point. Except the defence was different (Dervitte), the midfield was different and the attack was different. Apart from that - and the bench - it was identical to the side Powell put out last.
Someone's lying, yet there are many lies involved in the circus of the RD takeover,
The picture they paint is:
RD: Jose, my old friend, the Belgium special one huh huh huh. What are you doing right at this minute?
JR: watching Italian computer science programme and having a glass of wine yah, why you call?
RD: we'll I've just sacked the manager, at, if you heard, my new club, Sharlton. I liked the manager very much but he didnt like me, and trashed my office and called me a waffle head so I...
JR: whoa, stop! I love Sharlton even though I've never heard of them, a source tells me there is a lovely cafe round the corner. il get my coat we can discuss contract agreement when I arrive, f**k it! screw that il manage for free without any prior arrangement and bring my funny little specialised training book.
RD: excellent
JR: Milan to stansted baby! Aahhh!
Having said that, I do hope this guy is good and becomes our permanent boss.
Get real chaps - R.D. stated in his o.s. presentation that they had looked at Charlton and decided we needed new investment. Now the first question should be when - and the answer would be before they decided to purchase the club. the second question would be who was assessing the team. Certainly not Roland because he is a businessman and not a football manager. It was most probably JR or someone from Rd's extensive network of football people (remember he owns several clubs). JR was most probably on Rolands radar to manage one of his clubs long before CP departed Charlton. Some believe that CP was sacked on Sunday before the cup tie, JR could have been at the game aware that he was going to replace CP. When asked about the timing of RD's approach, JR was never going to say it was last week or last month was he, not because it wasn't true, but the resultant arguments would have continued long beyond the end of the season. Get real chaps.The truth in these situations is often not as we would wish or hope for.
Why does every word and statement have to be dissected into a thousand pieces?
Because it is CL. In the Crossroads soap of my youth there used to be a character called Amy Turtle, bit of a busy body, liked to know the ins and outs of ducks arse about everything. If old Amy had survived into the internet age she would be on CL and a fully paid member of the Sir Chrissy Powell appreciation society.
Because this is a forum with thousands of members, all with their own view and take on things. There is no constant stream of new stories to discuss in football so when an announcement is made it gets disected and twisted adinfinitum.
That is just part and parcel of a successful forum in this IT mad world I guess.
NEW Charlton head coach Jose Riga has revealed he has yet to sign a contract at the club following his appointment on Tuesday
OS lying to us about him being a permanent manager then? Zzzzz... not believing a word coming out of the club at the moment, we are being told what we want to hear, not the truth.
Sacking Chris Powell and appointing some foreign nobody certainly wasn't what I wanted to hear.
Interesting that Dyer picked the team, as the formation/approach was extremely different to what a typical Powell side would look like.
Was it?! Defence identical, midfield identical with the exception of maybe tudgay for reza (but possibly not after Sunday). Adjarevic has played off the forward previously, at SW.
Good point. Except the defence was different (Dervitte), the midfield was different and the attack was different. Apart from that - and the bench - it was identical to the side Powell put out last.
Dervite is his player and he has often played him this season rather than Wood (most recently two weeks ago against QPR), and may well have dropped Wood himself after his performance on Sunday. The midfield was the same midfield he played at Sheffield Wednesday, with the exception of Reza for Cousins. He has also swapped Sordell and Church around on occasion.
The team was essentially a Powell team. To suggest that it was "extremely different" is ludicrous.
Riga was a consultant to the Academy at Milan so could easily drop that role and take on this one.
Was he contacted before Powell was told? more than likely. Does that matter? Not really IMO. Not very nice for CP but it makes sense to have a replacement lined up and ready to start straight away.
Some people seem very sure that Riga is going in the summer or will take over the academy. We shall see.
Since when has lying been anything new from those in football... " I don't know whether eet was a dive because I did not see eet", "i think millwall are as good as safe with Holloway in charge" etc etc. Authority figures in football continuously lie to protect their own interests. RD and JR are merely playing the game. There are enough clues out there to deduce that JR knew he'd be here before Sunday, so why do you need to hear him say it? (Andy Ansah's tweet being the clearest)
We have a foreign coach who will do what he is told by RD.
what i dont understand is that everyone is taking this BBC interview as gospel
BUT why has noone stated that RD said and i quote
'the children (clubs) need to take care of themselves, just because i am a shareholder this does not mean that i am going to play a big role in deciding all of things, the management is responsible of the success of the club and not me'
also the guy that said we might become a feeder club works for standard, he doesnt have an input into charlton i think hes just saying what the standard fans want to hear.
After that interview on the Monday, and I sort of remember the Belgium bloke mentioning it, there was a meeting for the networked clubs (representatives) regarding I assume the football policy in the future. Then we had the events surrounding Sheffield United. Then the change of manager.
Everything could have been pink and fluffy over those days I am curious to know.
Possibly the pecking order, and how it is managed, became more established and solid. It could be, that judging by the Standard Liege guy in the interview, that he repeated the line that not good enough players get experience at Charlton etc and it got voted in as it were.
This may have caused an irreconcilable rift between Chris Powell and the network, and it ended messily. There is also the curious absence of Chris Powell on the season ticket stuff to weigh up too.
Either way what has happened has happened, but on the balance of probabilities it seems to me that Jose Riga was being approached much more than two or three days ago. Given the changes, again on the balance of probabilities, there is more evidence to suggest that we are the feeder club to Standard Liege, (or their reserves) than that we maintain autonomy and self determination in a manner that is equal to each club in the network.
Why does every word and statement have to be dissected into a thousand pieces?
This exactly! I remember, a few weeks ago, CP being asked whether he alone picked the team, he looked offended that the question had even been asked and insisted bluntly that of course he did. Now people seem to be assuming that this was not true, but (quite rightly) there is no great cry that CP was a liar and obviously deceitful because (again, quite rightly) it was understood that there were certain things that it was right and suitable for him to say at the time.
2. All that season ticket renewal glossy bollox that came round to us all on Tuesday had no pictures of Powell anywhere.
3. Last nights match day programme had Riga takes charge all over the front cover
This has been planned for yonks. The print deadlines on the ST stuff must have been last week. None of us recognised Riga. He could have been watching games at the valley for the last two months for all we know.
I'm not reopening any of the debate about CP going. What's done is done and we move on. But I do feel a bit pissed having forked out time and money to go to Sheffield knowing now that we were playing with our legs tied together. And much as I love CP he should have told Roland where to shove it way before the weekend. Ho hum.
2. All that season ticket renewal glossy bollox that came round to us all on Tuesday had no pictures of Powell anywhere.
3. Last nights match day programme had Riga takes charge all over the front cover
This has been planned for yonks. The print deadlines on the ST stuff must have been last week. None of us recognised Riga. He could have been watching games at the valley for the last two months for all we know.
I'm not reopening any of the debate about CP going. What's done is done and we move on. But I do feel a bit pissed having forked out time and money to go to Sheffield knowing that we were playing with our legs tied together. And much as I love CP he should have told Roland where to shove it way before the weekend. Ho hum.
Yes 5500 of us had the piss taken out of us for the QF.
We have a foreign coach who will do what he is told by RD.
what i dont understand is that everyone is taking this BBC interview as gospel
BUT why has noone stated that RD said and i quote
'the children (clubs) need to take care of themselves, just because i am a shareholder this does not mean that i am going to play a big role in deciding all of things, the management is responsible of the success of the club and not me'
also the guy that said we might become a feeder club works for standard, he doesnt have an input into charlton i think hes just saying what the standard fans want to hear.
After that interview on the Monday, and I sort of remember the Belgium bloke mentioning it, there was a meeting for the networked clubs (representatives) regarding I assume the football policy in the future. Then we had the events surrounding Sheffield United. Then the change of manager.
Everything could have been pink and fluffy over those days I am curious to know.
Possibly the pecking order, and how it is managed, became more established and solid. It could be, that judging by the Standard Liege guy in the interview, that he repeated the line that not good enough players get experience at Charlton etc and it got voted in as it were.
This may have caused an irreconcilable rift between Chris Powell and the network, and it ended messily. There is also the curious absence of Chris Powell on the season ticket stuff to weigh up too.
Either way what has happened has happened, but on the balance of probabilities it seems to me that Jose Riga was being approached much more than two or three days ago. Given the changes, again on the balance of probabilities, there is more evidence to suggest that we are the feeder club to Standard Liege, (or their reserves) than that we maintain autonomy and self determination in a manner that is equal to each club in the network.
It's an insult beyond magnitude! I watched that interview and it was disgusting. They want to freely move players between clubs.
But news flash, the SL crap will come to us and then anyone coming up through our academy with half a brain should clear off.
That's exactly why Chrissy Powell told Roland to do one!!
2. All that season ticket renewal glossy bollox that came round to us all on Tuesday had no pictures of Powell anywhere.
3. Last nights match day programme had Riga takes charge all over the front cover
This has been planned for yonks. The print deadlines on the ST stuff must have been last week. None of us recognised Riga. He could have been watching games at the valley for the last two months for all we know.
I'm not reopening any of the debate about CP going. What's done is done and we move on. But I do feel a bit pissed having forked out time and money to go to Sheffield knowing that we were playing with our legs tied together. And much as I love CP he should have told Roland where to shove it way before the weekend. Ho hum.
I totally agree with this. Although I disagree with the sacking of Powell for the apparent reasons, I don't believe Powell played his strongest side in protest at RD, therefore mugging off 5500 addicks. I don't really want to believe that but I can't help but do.
2. All that season ticket renewal glossy bollox that came round to us all on Tuesday had no pictures of Powell anywhere.
3. Last nights match day programme had Riga takes charge all over the front cover
This has been planned for yonks. The print deadlines on the ST stuff must have been last week. None of us recognised Riga. He could have been watching games at the valley for the last two months for all we know.
I'm not reopening any of the debate about CP going. What's done is done and we move on. But I do feel a bit pissed having forked out time and money to go to Sheffield knowing that we were playing with our legs tied together. And much as I love CP he should have told Roland where to shove it way before the weekend. Ho hum.
I totally agree with this. Although I disagree with the sacking of Powell for the apparent reasons, I don't believe Powell played his strongest side in protest at RD, therefore mugging off 5500 addicks. I don't really want to believe that but I can't help but do.
What! Who else could have played apart from perhaps AA. The players were affected badly by TD's sacking of their manager on the eve of only Charlton's sixth cup quarter final!
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Someone's lying, yet there are many lies involved in the circus of the RD takeover,
The picture they paint is:
RD: Jose, my old friend, the Belgium special one huh huh huh. What are you doing right at this minute?
JR: watching Italian computer science programme and having a glass of wine yah, why you call?
RD: we'll I've just sacked the manager, at, if you heard, my new club, Sharlton. I liked the manager very much but he didnt like me, and trashed my office and called me a waffle head so I...
JR: whoa, stop! I love Sharlton even though I've never heard of them, a source tells me there is a lovely cafe round the corner. il get my coat we can discuss contract agreement when I arrive, f**k it! screw that il manage for free without any prior arrangement and bring my funny little specialised training book.
RD: excellent
JR: Milan to stansted baby! Aahhh!
Having said that, I do hope this guy is good and becomes our permanent boss.
Ten blocks of flats and a small supermarket.
That is just part and parcel of a successful forum in this IT mad world I guess.
The team was essentially a Powell team. To suggest that it was "extremely different" is ludicrous.
Was he contacted before Powell was told? more than likely. Does that matter? Not really IMO. Not very nice for CP but it makes sense to have a replacement lined up and ready to start straight away.
Some people seem very sure that Riga is going in the summer or will take over the academy. We shall see.
Everything could have been pink and fluffy over those days I am curious to know.
Possibly the pecking order, and how it is managed, became more established and solid. It could be, that judging by the Standard Liege guy in the interview, that he repeated the line that not good enough players get experience at Charlton etc and it got voted in as it were.
This may have caused an irreconcilable rift between Chris Powell and the network, and it ended messily. There is also the curious absence of Chris Powell on the season ticket stuff to weigh up too.
Either way what has happened has happened, but on the balance of probabilities it seems to me that Jose Riga was being approached much more than two or three days ago. Given the changes, again on the balance of probabilities, there is more evidence to suggest that we are the feeder club to Standard Liege, (or their reserves) than that we maintain autonomy and self determination in a manner that is equal to each club in the network.
Now people seem to be assuming that this was not true, but (quite rightly) there is no great cry that CP was a liar and obviously deceitful because (again, quite rightly) it was understood that there were certain things that it was right and suitable for him to say at the time.
1. Something was badly amiss at Sheffield.
2. All that season ticket renewal glossy bollox that came round to us all on Tuesday had no pictures of Powell anywhere.
3. Last nights match day programme had Riga takes charge all over the front cover
This has been planned for yonks. The print deadlines on the ST stuff must have been last week. None of us recognised Riga. He could have been watching games at the valley for the last two months for all we know.
I'm not reopening any of the debate about CP going. What's done is done and we move on. But I do feel a bit pissed having forked out time and money to go to Sheffield knowing now that we were playing with our legs tied together. And much as I love CP he should have told Roland where to shove it way before the weekend. Ho hum.
But news flash, the SL crap will come to us and then anyone coming up through our academy with half a brain should clear off.
That's exactly why Chrissy Powell told Roland to do one!!
He works for the network, not Charlton.