RD will probably be in Belgium. He couldn't give a toss what the supporters think. At least the lunatics at Cardiff and Hull have put their money into the club. RD wants it to breakeven ( be run on a shoestring) and just provide young players for Standard Liege. The future is not looking bright.
A better question is what if a galvanised team puts in a passionate and skilful shift, brimming with confidence and we win comfortably, what will the reaction be?
Can't see fans gathering to 'protest' though, not the sort of thing Charlton supporters typically do in this day and age. We all just go on Charlton Life!
A better question is what if a galvanised team puts in a passionate and skilful shift, brimming with confidence and we win comfortably, what will the reaction be?
I dont think we'll get 6 points from out 4 games in hand, but if we do I'll be happy to take whatever flack comes my way because we'll be above Millwall and clear of the relegation zone.
Jose has 26 and a bit hours to make sure we win doesn't he? Deliver and there will be no protests, fail to deliver and it will be more and more bad stuff again and again. I feel sorry if families have children with them at matches, and witness the non swearing, non illegal, vitriol that some of us supporters intend to dump at the Valley if we fail to win.
You can protest all you like, RD won't care a jot! He's had exactly the Same at Standard don't forget. He will take the flack, he is also a very successful business man. He is used to 'upsetting people' You don't earn what he has without upsetting a lot of people on the way! I say give the man and his staff a chance, can it really be any worse? Bottom of the league, yes I know we have the 4 games in hand BUT we are really struggling to win, and going out of a quarter final in such a dismal heartless performance. So we can't guarantee anything out of those games. I personally don't think Dyer helped Chris much on our playing style, I think he would have been better off with just Damian Matthew. That's only my opinion. Tomorrow night is a massive night, not for Chris Powell but for CHARLTON ATHLETIC FOOTBALL CLUB and us fans! COYR.......
How would you define 'a chance'? For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath. if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
Pathetic. How can it all be his fault if he doesn't win his first two game? Not his players and he's had next to no time to coach the players.
I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.
If Powell was here most people would take 4 points as a good return from those two games. In fact two points a game is promotion form and most likely would keep us up (32 + 27 = 59 points).
But in your irrational state you are expecting more of Riga than you would of Powell.
How would you define 'a chance'? For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath. if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
Seth ...... don't be a Plum, mate.
Most of us are upset by the way CP has been treated.
Let's see how things unfold on the park with the new bloke. It's not his fault, is it?
Assuming we do scramble our way to safety and stay up. What then? If the best players are offloaded and we get the cast-offs from around the rest of the Belgian's empire, surely all that will happen is that next season will be even more wretched. There is nothing I have read or head which makes me think he will actually put money into new players. But as owner, he can do what he wants and our only option is to vote with our feet. Sad.
My guess is we will sing for Chrissy Powell and RD out and have a love in with the few Huddersfield fans who brave the journey and who will be supportive of us. We want our Charlton back will almost certainly be heard quite a lot!
if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
Pathetic. How can it all be his fault if he doesn't win his first two game? Not his players and he's had next to no time to coach the players.
I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.
If Powell was here most people would take 4 points as a good return from those two games. In fact two points a game is promotion form and most likely would keep us up (32 + 27 = 59 points).
But in your irrational state you are expecting more of Riga than you would of Powell.
Henry, how perceptive of you to come to the conclusion that I am in an irrational state, you could well be right. I don't think you understand that I was responding to charliewright1's exhortation to give the man a 'chance' because I failed to include his post as a quote. Indeed you yourself have failed to include the first part of my post when you quoted me, the bit you left out was:
'How would you define 'a chance'? For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath.'
Was that the most dreadfully irrational part of my post that even you couldn't bring yourself to include it? Probably was in your eyes. In my clumsy and irrational way I was/am pondering the notion of 'a chance'. Maybe we should give Jose a couple of seasons, that would also constitute giving him a chance. If you don't agree with that then we are debating how much constitutes 'a chance', two matches, or two seasons, or somewhere in between.
I have defined a 'chance' from my point of view as tomorrow and Saturday, you don't agree with that clearly. However, true to form you colour your post with bits like:
'I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.'
As a poster not known for vendettas I am surprised you even know what one is, nevertheless you couldn't possibly be including that sentence in order to undermine me as a person rather than to inform the debate could you? You rise above such things.
How would you define 'a chance'? For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath. if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
Seth ...... don't be a Plum, mate.
Most of us are upset by the way CP has been treated.
Let's see how things unfold on the park with the new bloke. It's not his fault, is it?
Oggy I appreciate your post and thank you for it. I will look and see how things unfold on the park tomorrow evening. I think it may well be his fault, even tomorrow, if he simply plays all the new players come what may, and we then lose. However tomorrow has not arrived yet and we have to wait and see.
if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
Pathetic. How can it all be his fault if he doesn't win his first two game? Not his players and he's had next to no time to coach the players.
I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.
If Powell was here most people would take 4 points as a good return from those two games. In fact two points a game is promotion form and most likely would keep us up (32 + 27 = 59 points).
But in your irrational state you are expecting more of Riga than you would of Powell.
Henry, how perceptive of you to come to the conclusion that I am in an irrational state, you could well be right. I don't think you understand that I was responding to charliewright1's exhortation to give the man a 'chance' because I failed to include his post as a quote. Indeed you yourself have failed to include the first part of my post when you quoted me, the bit you left out was:
'How would you define 'a chance'? For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath.'
Was that the most dreadfully irrational part of my post that even you couldn't bring yourself to include it? Probably was in your eyes. In my clumsy and irrational way I was/am pondering the notion of 'a chance'. Maybe we should give Jose a couple of seasons, that would also constitute giving him a chance. If you don't agree with that then we are debating how much constitutes 'a chance', two matches, or two seasons, or somewhere in between.
I have defined a 'chance' from my point of view as tomorrow and Saturday, you don't agree with that clearly. However, true to form you colour your post with bits like:
'I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.'
As a poster not known for vendettas I am surprised you even know what one is, nevertheless you couldn't possibly be including that sentence in order to undermine me as a person rather than to inform the debate could you? You rise above such things.
OK, I'll spell it out. Even when I agree with the general point you are trying to make (ie support for Powell) you take it to such extreme and yes irrational levels that it negates any valid points you might once have had.
if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
Pathetic. How can it all be his fault if he doesn't win his first two game? Not his players and he's had next to no time to coach the players.
I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.
If Powell was here most people would take 4 points as a good return from those two games. In fact two points a game is promotion form and most likely would keep us up (32 + 27 = 59 points).
But in your irrational state you are expecting more of Riga than you would of Powell.
To be fair, Riga might have the inside track on the Liege / network lot as he seems to have been a part of Roland's network himself.
Also, without meaning to draw parallels, Powell's first four games went OK ;-)
if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
Pathetic. How can it all be his fault if he doesn't win his first two game? Not his players and he's had next to no time to coach the players.
I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.
If Powell was here most people would take 4 points as a good return from those two games. In fact two points a game is promotion form and most likely would keep us up (32 + 27 = 59 points).
But in your irrational state you are expecting more of Riga than you would of Powell.
Henry, how perceptive of you to come to the conclusion that I am in an irrational state, you could well be right. I don't think you understand that I was responding to charliewright1's exhortation to give the man a 'chance' because I failed to include his post as a quote. Indeed you yourself have failed to include the first part of my post when you quoted me, the bit you left out was:
'How would you define 'a chance'? For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath.'
Was that the most dreadfully irrational part of my post that even you couldn't bring yourself to include it? Probably was in your eyes. In my clumsy and irrational way I was/am pondering the notion of 'a chance'. Maybe we should give Jose a couple of seasons, that would also constitute giving him a chance. If you don't agree with that then we are debating how much constitutes 'a chance', two matches, or two seasons, or somewhere in between.
I have defined a 'chance' from my point of view as tomorrow and Saturday, you don't agree with that clearly. However, true to form you colour your post with bits like:
'I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.'
As a poster not known for vendettas I am surprised you even know what one is, nevertheless you couldn't possibly be including that sentence in order to undermine me as a person rather than to inform the debate could you? You rise above such things.
OK, I'll spell it out. Even when I agree with the general point you are trying to make (ie support for Powell) you take it to such extreme and yes irrational levels that it negates any valid points you might once have had.
Henry I am sure you speak for everybody, thanks for spelling it out. You can henceforth ignore any general points I make from now on because you say I have invalidated them all by being what you describe as extreme and irrational, and henceforth I can lay awake at night because Henry Irving is not acknowledging me.
Are you satisfied I know my place now?
P.S. While we're on the subject of spelling you might want to check what you wrote above. I think you meant to say 'games' (plural) instead of 'game', and 'every' instead of 'ever'. Do hope that helps when you spell things out in the future.
How would you define 'a chance'? For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath. if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
I think you've lost it mate. Take it out on RD if it makes you happy, as the treatment handed out to CP was crap. But all this 'he's got two games to show he's as good as he thinks he is'? Where are you getting this from. RD offered him a job at our club and he said yes. Why the loathing? Do you want to change manager again in three matches time because he failed to meet your yard stick? That will hardly help the club. Take a deep breath, the rest of the season starts today, and we've got a new manager.
Being sensible - it would be a massive error to play Thuram tomorrow - the crowd will turn as soon as he makes his first punch - not fair on the bloke - Hamer has to start because of the situation. The trick has to be to get the crowd supporting the players so a bright start will also be needed.
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Note that is a question not a prediction.
Can't see fans gathering to 'protest' though, not the sort of thing Charlton supporters typically do in this day and age. We all just go on Charlton Life!
But win, lose or draw I think you can accurately predict that the opinion on Charlton Life will be divided!
I'm also in favour of the suggestion by @Sadiejane1981 - lets not go down the "I told you so" route.
Deliver and there will be no protests, fail to deliver and it will be more and more bad stuff again and again.
I feel sorry if families have children with them at matches, and witness the non swearing, non illegal, vitriol that some of us supporters intend to dump at the Valley if we fail to win.
I say give the man and his staff a chance, can it really be any worse? Bottom of the league, yes I know we have the 4 games in hand BUT we are really struggling to win, and going out of a quarter final in such a dismal heartless performance. So we can't guarantee anything out of those games. I personally don't think Dyer helped Chris much on our playing style, I think he would have been better off with just Damian Matthew. That's only my opinion.
Tomorrow night is a massive night, not for Chris Powell but for CHARLTON ATHLETIC FOOTBALL CLUB and us fans!
COYR.......
For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath.
if Jose Riga fails to seize his 'chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall then he deserves anything that comes his way, if we get less than six points it will be his fault.
I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.
If Powell was here most people would take 4 points as a good return from those two games. In fact two points a game is promotion form and most likely would keep us up (32 + 27 = 59 points).
But in your irrational state you are expecting more of Riga than you would of Powell.
Most of us are upset by the way CP has been treated.
Let's see how things unfold on the park with the new bloke.
It's not his fault, is it?
'How would you define 'a chance'?
For me I will give him 'a chance' to win tomorrow and at Millwall, then we can pause briefly for breath.'
Was that the most dreadfully irrational part of my post that even you couldn't bring yourself to include it? Probably was in your eyes.
In my clumsy and irrational way I was/am pondering the notion of 'a chance'. Maybe we should give Jose a couple of seasons, that would also constitute giving him a chance. If you don't agree with that then we are debating how much constitutes 'a chance', two matches, or two seasons, or somewhere in between.
I have defined a 'chance' from my point of view as tomorrow and Saturday, you don't agree with that clearly. However, true to form you colour your post with bits like:
'I know you have these irrational rants and vendettas ever so often but even for you that is weird.'
As a poster not known for vendettas I am surprised you even know what one is, nevertheless you couldn't possibly be including that sentence in order to undermine me as a person rather than to inform the debate could you? You rise above such things.
Also, without meaning to draw parallels, Powell's first four games went OK ;-)
Are you satisfied I know my place now?
P.S. While we're on the subject of spelling you might want to check what you wrote above. I think you meant to say 'games' (plural) instead of 'game', and 'every' instead of 'ever'. Do hope that helps when you spell things out in the future.
Do you want to change manager again in three matches time because he failed to meet your yard stick? That will hardly help the club. Take a deep breath, the rest of the season starts today, and we've got a new manager.