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  • Good luck to you Cray.

    Sad that people think its funny that slowly but surely the soul and identity of our club seems to be draining away. Some people seem more focused on turning on their own, and those that care, than the bigger picture.

    Thanks mate. Appreciate that.
  • TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
  • When would you say was the last time we played really well in a whole game? Just out of interest. Notts forest at home springs to mind and we didn't even win that game
  • ''Forced to sell the best players who played dog shit in the 3-0 loss to doncaster, and who we were in a relegation battle. Its not as if they were world beaters ffs''

    Would like to ask AdamAddick in the 3-0 loss to Doncaster, perhaps those 3 players knew they were leaving
    anyway. I believe they were all loyal to Chris Powell, and asked if there were assurances that he would be staying. This was not given. Do you think these clowns apart from AA are world beaters. On Wednesday expect they will all be playing!
  • "Football Club Sack Under Performing Manager" shock.

    Seriously - if it wasn't Chris as manager you'd have been calling for his neck months ago.

    Get a grip everyone

    4 games in hand
    forced to sell best players
    one of the lowest budgets in the league
    FA Cup quarter final

    yeah thats a under performing manager
    Forced to sell the best players who played dog shit in the 3-0 loss to doncaster, and who we were in a relegation battle. Its not as if they were world beaters ffs
    Why bring up one game
    Okay off the top of my head..

    Middlesborough loss both games
    Derby loss 2-0
    Burnley 3-0
    Ipswich at home


    All shit and did both play yes and create anything to score? No
    Sorry have you just put derby and Burnley in there

    why not say when we was in the prem we lost to Man Utd and Arsenal lol
  • "Football Club Sack Under Performing Manager" shock.

    Seriously - if it wasn't Chris as manager you'd have been calling for his neck months ago.

    Get a grip everyone

    4 games in hand
    forced to sell best players
    one of the lowest budgets in the league
    FA Cup quarter final

    yeah thats a under performing manager
    We are where we are and whether you feel its right or not some blame must sit with CP. Managers all ways take the blame for clubs who at the bottom of league tables

  • "Football Club Sack Under Performing Manager" shock.

    Seriously - if it wasn't Chris as manager you'd have been calling for his neck months ago.

    Get a grip everyone

    4 games in hand
    forced to sell best players
    one of the lowest budgets in the league
    FA Cup quarter final

    yeah thats a under performing manager
    Forced to sell the best players who played dog shit in the 3-0 loss to doncaster, and who we were in a relegation battle. Its not as if they were world beaters ffs
    Why bring up one game
    Okay off the top of my head..

    Middlesborough loss both games
    Derby loss 2-0
    Burnley 3-0
    Ipswich at home


    All shit and did both play yes and create anything to score? No
    Sorry have you just put derby and Burnley in there

    why not say when we was in the prem we lost to Man Utd and Arsenal lol
    We beat qpr...
  • This decisions was made for the bettering of the "Network"... Not the club.
  • This decisions was made for the bettering of the "Network"... Not the club.

    That's your POV and in no way factual
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  • This decisions was made for the bettering of the "Network"... Not the club.

    That's your POV and in no way factual
    Well done. Thanks for your continuing constructive opinion on this thread.
  • I'm sending a fax
  • Good luck to you Cray.

    Sad that people think its funny that slowly but surely the soul and identity of our club seems to be draining away. Some people seem more focused on turning on their own, and those that care, than the bigger picture.

    I agree with you here. I can't believe some of the flippant posts.
  • Maybe I'm too cynical to bother to contact the Club. I sent an email to Richard Murray many years ago when we sold Carl Leaburn. Got a reply telling me in so many words that he'd put more money into the club than I ever had so he'd make the decisions. Think anyone writing in now will get a similar response - after all, it's what Katrien said when challenged over Kermy at last week's meeting and it's what RD said to the Liege supporters.
  • TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

  • TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    Dan are you happy that we have an owner who wants to pick the team?

    If it was a case of sacking someone because he was not good enough I think i could take that but it is not the case.
  • Paddy7 said:

    I've sent the following:

    Dear Mr. Kensell,

    I understand you are overseeing correspondence relating to today's decision regarding the club's change of manager, and would like to add my views to the many you will doubtless be receiving.

    The decision taken today has robbed the club of a very special person who - unlike some - would never put himself before Charlton Athletic. He has of course made mistakes in his first managerial position but was currently experiencing his first poor season after an exceptional start. On top of managing with the very limited resources offered by the previous owners, he has now had to contend with the sale of three of his key players against his judgement. Whether the replacements he has had foisted on him will prove successful remains to be seen, but they appear increasingly unlikely to save the club's second division status.

    And this appears to be the very issue that has forced his departure. I understand the salary for his new contract was settled almost immediately - itself unusual in the modern game. I also understand that he felt unable to MANAGE the club he cares so passionately for when decisions regarding his playing squad were clearly being taken over his head. Instead of a man of such dignity, passion, and already proven managerial skill, it would appear Mr. Duchatelet would prefer a coach who I presume knows little of English football outside the top tier, and who is happy to have his squad selected for him. Beyond the obvious emotional link many of us have for Mr. Powell after his playing career, we have now lost a universally respected man who has identified realistic targets for a club of our size and means, and developed them into successful players who always gave the club their utmost even in defeat.

    With a realistic level of backing Chris Powell could perhaps have built something very special at Charlton Athletic Football CLUB. Today it feels less of a club, and more of a businessman's plaything. I will always support the club, but will sing passionately at tomorrow's game for a man who made me very very proud to tell people I support Charlton. One day we might regain the identity that sets our club apart.

    Yours sincerely,



    I don't really care if I receive some corporate pre-dictaed generic reply; just wanted to add my voice.

    Genuine question.

    If he get's 500 of these emails do you think he will have time to read them all? Do you think he will bother to read any of them after he has ten?

    I'm not knocking your decision to send it but I wonder if it will have any impact at any level at all.
  • edited March 2014

    TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    An owner who dictates signings and who must play is a necessery evolution? What planet are you on? There isn't a single other club in the football league that runs a similar system, and there isn't a single British manager/coach who would accept it.
  • TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    He clearly didn't have a change of heart as it says in his comments as to why he was sacked.

    Roland Duchatelet: "We could not reach an agreement over the club’s football strategy going forward."

    The fact he brings in a coach with no football league experience is a very daunting prospect... I again echo this is what is best for the network. He clearly is another "Yes Man".
  • Rob62 said:

    TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    An owner who dictates signings and who must play is a necessery evolution? What planet are you on? There isn't a single other club in the football league that runs a similar system, and there isn't a single British manager/coach who would accept it.
    To be fair we don't know what the disagreement about the strategy going forward is so any suggestions as to what was being 'forced' on the manager are just plain guesses!
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  • TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    Dan are you happy that we have an owner who wants to pick the team?

    If it was a case of sacking someone because he was not good enough I think i could take that but it is not the case.
    Until it's 100% confirmed that this is the case @roseandcrown I'll reserve the right to assume its for a mix of footballing issues and not seeing things the same way. If you can demonstrate unequivocally that your POV is the sole reason he was sacked then I'd be happy to change my mind
  • Rob62 said:

    TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    An owner who dictates signings and who must play is a necessery evolution? What planet are you on? There isn't a single other club in the football league that runs a similar system, and there isn't a single British manager/coach who would accept it.
    other than Watford, Blackburn.........

    BTW I didn't say that "an owner who dictates signings and who must play is a necessery evolution" I said the "shared resources approach" was a necessary evolution. Please refrain from trying to put words in my mouth
  • TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    Dan are you happy that we have an owner who wants to pick the team?

    If it was a case of sacking someone because he was not good enough I think i could take that but it is not the case.
    Until it's 100% confirmed that this is the case @roseandcrown I'll reserve the right to assume its for a mix of footballing issues and not seeing things the same way. If you can demonstrate unequivocally that your POV is the sole reason he was sacked then I'd be happy to change my mind
    I respect your right to believe this and your opinion but dont agree.

    I think it is quite clear from the snippets that either Powell was told who to play or that he would have no say on who comes in. I cant prove 100% same as you cant otherwise.
  • Please can anyone who would like to do so direct their emails to supporters@cafc.co.uk rather than to Ben Kensell. The information that it should be sent to him is incorrect.
  • edited March 2014
    Spot on @kings hill addick

  • edited March 2014

    TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    Dan are you happy that we have an owner who wants to pick the team?

    If it was a case of sacking someone because he was not good enough I think i could take that but it is not the case.
    Until it's 100% confirmed that this is the case @roseandcrown I'll reserve the right to assume its for a mix of footballing issues and not seeing things the same way. If you can demonstrate unequivocally that your POV is the sole reason he was sacked then I'd be happy to change my mind
    When is ever 100% Dan? Do you not think it's a bit naive of you to be unable to see this simple point.

    The owner was quoted saying that he offered the manager a new contract. However it was not agreed due to Powell not agreeing to the "network strategy". If you didn't want someone in a job because they didn't perform why offer them a contract?????????

    Clearly the network takes priority and Powell wasn't willing to be the yes man.
  • edited March 2014
    My point exactly @CrayAddick‌. You will never know the whole story and therefore you're simply making assumptions and trying to fill in the gaps based on your slant on things.

    As I've said from the outset I reserve the right to disagree with you and not see it as solely regarding "the network" as you have coined it.

    If we were mid table and safe I'd be far more inclined to believe that a disagreement regarding the short to long term strategy was behind the decision.

    As we're current sitting bottom of the pile, playing with little nor no idea and, from the example on Sunday, lacking passion & a game plan then I'm far less inclined to do so.
  • TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    Dan are you happy that we have an owner who wants to pick the team?

    If it was a case of sacking someone because he was not good enough I think i could take that but it is not the case.
    Until it's 100% confirmed that this is the case @roseandcrown I'll reserve the right to assume its for a mix of footballing issues and not seeing things the same way. If you can demonstrate unequivocally that your POV is the sole reason he was sacked then I'd be happy to change my mind
    What is ever 100% Dan? Do you not think it's a bit naive of you to be unable to see this simple point.

    The owner was quoted saying that he offered the manager a new contract. However it was not agreed due to Powell not agreeing to the "network strategy". If you didn't want someone in a job because they didn't perform why offer them a contract?????????

    Clearly the network takes priority and Powell wasn't willing to be the yes man.
    @CharltonDan And the fact that JR is already down Sparrow's Lane....contract all already signed!!

    Deutch-Doosh-bag wanted Chrissy to play Doosh's players. Chrissy said no.....but JR is a nodding Churchill dog!!
  • Rob62 said:

    TBH @Sidcup_Robin‌ I'd wager money that they got rid of him because "they didn't like that we were playing crap"

    @cCarlton‌Dan Why offer him a new contract then? Look into it, they offered him a new contract. It was the fact that he refused to agree to "The Network" which is why he was subsequently sacked!!
    Or perhaps he had a change of heart given the dire performance & tactics? This coupled with CP's insistence on playing the players who by and large have got us to where we are (Hamer aside) could be the driver behinds RD's realisation that change was required. *I can in no way prove this just as you can in no way prove your assumptions.

    It wouldn't be the 1st time a manager was backed and then sacked.

    I would have loved more than anything to see Powell do well at CAFC (who wouldn't have?) however I want to see Charlton do well no matter who is in charge.

    Let's face it that without a change of focus, and yes that includes the shared resources approach which RD brings, we would struggle. We are not a big club, we don't deserve success we need to earn that right and we need to be pragmatic enough to realise that by running a tight ship we will have a chance for success. Carrying on the status quo and or finding a Sheik will billions to burn just does not work in today's football environment.

    If some people see this as the soul of the club draining away then so be it. I see it as a necessary evolution.

    An owner who dictates signings and who must play is a necessery evolution? What planet are you on? There isn't a single other club in the football league that runs a similar system, and there isn't a single British manager/coach who would accept it.
    other than Watford, Blackburn.........

    BTW I didn't say that "an owner who dictates signings and who must play is a necessery evolution" I said the "shared resources approach" was a necessary evolution. Please refrain from trying to put words in my mouth
    You said what we are seeing now is a necessery evolution. Our manager was sacked for his refusal to play a player. That isn't putting words into your mouth.
  • edited March 2014

    My point exactly @CrayAddick‌. You will never know the whole story and therefore you're simply making assumptions and trying to fill in the gaps based on your slant on things.

    As I've said from the outset I reserve the right to disagree with you and not see it as solely regarding "the network" as you have coined it.

    My opinions are based on the quotes from the owner of the club and the last 3 seasons Chris Powell has been in charge.

    All your adding to this thread is a constant disagreement with no substance being added to it...

    I've got an opinion and I'm trying to make my voice heard. Surely nothing wrong with trying to galvanise support from fellow LIKE minded fans.
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