How many games have we won thus far, how many goals have we scored thus far, I believe the fewest in our league thus far. Forget the 101 points of 2 years ago facts are facts we are the worst team in our league, if we were not we would not be bottom. I am not digging Powell out, but we surely must play with a more attacking style, to continue as we are will result in only one certainty - relegation. If I am wrong pray tell me, there's only a few games to go now and the form book does not look promising. We might beat Huddersfield on Wednesday, we might have a leap in the tunnel, what we need is a great 6 game spell, if not we are gone.
One serious shot in anger over 90 shite minutes, if that's you are willing to accept, then it's Crewe away next season.
We played Sunderland in the prem years. I think we finished around 12th. Neither team had a shot. Worst game of football I've ever seen on tv. Don't think they made us play Crewe the following year.
One serious shot in anger over 90 shite minutes, if that's you are willing to accept, then it's Crewe away next season.
We played Sunderland in the prem years. I think we finished around 12th. Neither team had a shot. Worst game of football I've ever seen on tv. Don't think they made us play Crewe the following year.
It isnt the first time this season though is it, our stats have been woeful many times
One serious shot in anger over 90 shite minutes, if that's you are willing to accept, then it's Crewe away next season.
We played Sunderland in the prem years. I think we finished around 12th. Neither team had a shot. Worst game of football I've ever seen on tv. Don't think they made us play Crewe the following year.
QPR are deep in debt and will be royally screwed without propmotion. Does anyone really believe that they are going to go for a manager who has only a season and half of championship experience and who's current team are bottom of the league?
I can't really believe that any top or progressing club would want to employ Powell right now. He is still an apprentice manager with much to learn about tactics and (I am sure) man management. Perhaps in two or three years after some (we hope) success he might be a wanted man. A winning smile and personality alone do not a good manager make
I think a lot of people in football know more about what is going on at our club than us and hence will understand and sympathise with Powell's position.
I have genuine concerns re the Belgian owners plans and I wouldn't be surprised at all if CP left at the end of the season, if not before. Something is seriously wrong behind the scenes and that sort of thing quickly gets picked up by players. I am trying to remain positive but looking at the run in and the fact we couldn't score in a brothel my head is resigned to relegation. Now this may not be the financial disaster as would have been pre-Belgium, but we would lose all our best players and would be forced to play kids and Carlos Kickaball's from the owners menagerie of sub-standard clubs. Please, someone post something positive on here!!
I think a lot of people in football know more about what is going on at our club than us and hence will understand and sympathise with Powell's position.
They might, but if I were interviewing Powell for the job my first question would be to ask him to explain how he had envisged the team he picked yesterday functioning.
With Diego Poyet playing very deep, with Jackson lacking pace and not being renowned as a "picker of a pass", with Cousins a battler but not a wide player and with Harriott, potentially dangerous, but a maverick, how exactly did he expect to get the ball into Tudgay and Church? I'd be intrigued to hear the answer, but my expectations would not be high. All I know is that neither of our strikers got any service yesterday, but nor did I expect them to having seen the team selected. Extraordinary really.
My follow up question would then be to ask why, when a 4-5-1 system worked well in a similar game against Sheffield Wednesday, he did not go with a similar approach against United. If the interview was still "live" after that I might then ask whether he'd thought about playing Nego at RB (or even Morrison with Dervite joining Wood in the middle), allowing Wilson to step into midfield. If the answer was yes I'd then ask why he chose not to go this route.
If he gets the job at QPR (which I doubt) it will be because whoever is making the decision knows even less about football than I do and can't even muster trivial yet potentially revealing questions like these.
By the way, these are the sort of questions journalists should be asking rather than the anodyne " ... you must be very disappointed .... Yes, if Callum had taken that chance ... " blather.
All well and good Mundell... but who else would you put in the midfield?
Adjarevic perhaps should have started but given Tudgay's record against sheff u I would've started him. Sure, it didn't work out, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Nego is an unknown quantity, at least wilson has some experience of playing RB rather than putting morrison there!
I think a lot of people in football know more about what is going on at our club than us and hence will understand and sympathise with Powell's position.
They might, but if I were interviewing Powell for the job my first question would be to ask him to explain how he had envisged the team he picked yesterday functioning.
With Diego Poyet playing very deep, with Jackson lacking pace and not being renowned as a "picker of a pass", with Cousins a battler but not a wide player and with Harriott, potentially dangerous, but a maverick, how exactly did he expect to get the ball into Tudgay and Church? I'd be intrigued to hear the answer, but my expectations would not be high. All I know is that neither of our strikers got any service yesterday, but nor did I expect them to having seen the team selected. Extraordinary really.
My follow up question would then be to ask why, when a 4-5-1 system worked well in a similar game against Sheffield Wednesday, he did not go with a similar approach against United. If the interview was still "live" after that I might then ask whether he'd thought about playing Nego at RB (or even Morrison with Dervite joining Wood in the middle), allowing Wilson to step into midfield. If the answer was yes I'd then ask why he chose not to go this route.
If he gets the job at QPR (which I doubt) it will be because whoever is making the decision knows even less about football than I do and can't even muster trivial yet potentially revealing questions like these.
By the way, these are the sort of questions journalists should be asking rather than the anodyne " ... you must be very disappointed .... Yes, if Callum had taken that chance ... " blather.
Morrison really is not a right back. Has been tried before and failed.
Nego has clearly not impressed as he would have played there with Wilson ahead of him as Powell prefers him at right midfield.
I think it is very easy to sit and question tactics and formations without knowing the real reasons why certain choices are made.
I'm sure whoever is doing the QPR or any other interview would not focus on this one game. All managers get things wrong.
My questions would focus more on all the successes he has had in his first three years of management and how he could apply this approach at a club where he will be given backing and funding.
All well and good Mundell... but who else would you put in the midfield?
Adjarevic perhaps should have started but given Tudgay's record against sheff u I would've started him. Sure, it didn't work out, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Nego is an unknown quantity, at least wilson has some experience of playing RB rather than putting morrison there!
That's fair enough and I agree entirely that hindsight is a wonderful thing. Hence, anything I say now is somewhat empty.
However, I really don't see how that set up was going to work. For what its worth, and I'm not claiming to be an expert, I'd have gone for a 4-5-1 or a variant thereof because I feel we always look more solid set up that way. Perhaps Poyet could then have anchored with Jackson and Cousins either side with a brief to push on when they could. Harriott then plays wide left leaving wide right the problem position. We need a loan signing for that role for sure. In the meantime, I'd try to find a way to accommodate Wilson, but I accept that may not be possible, especially given United's threat down the flanks.
All that having been said there are no easy answers. I'd just don't think the team selection yesterday helped. If there was a logic to it. Great. Let's hear it. I'm doubtful, but I'm also still raw. It'll no doubt pass.
PS Morrison has played right back. Powell even made the point that he could play there on the Tactics discussion programme he did several weeks ago.
Fair enough, I think we all agree for whatever reason it clearly didn't work on sunday - we so desperately need another option at RM.
I'd love us to have a team where there's no weak point, or even every player in their preferred position (!) but we just can't do that with the players we've got at the moment.
For what it's worth, perhaps a more experienced manager would've set up differently, but I guess we'll never know. One thing for sure is cousins cannot start RM on wednesday!
As to who does... i'm glad it's not my job to decide that.
Fair enough, I think we all agree for whatever reason it clearly didn't work on sunday - we so desperately need another option at RM.
I'd love us to have a team where there's no weak point, or even every player in their preferred position (!) but we just can't do that with the players we've got at the moment.
For what it's worth, perhaps a more experienced manager would've set up differently, but I guess we'll never know. One thing for sure is cousins cannot start RM on wednesday!
As to who does... i'm glad it's not my job to decide that.
I'd love us, and hence the gaffer, to have additional players of his choice so that he wouldn't have to gamble on playing lads out of position in a vain effort to give us, the fans, the kind of balanced team we "demand".
Maybe then he 'd be in a stronger position to show just what he can achieve with a set of players he chose....
...but of course he's already shown that in the promotion season !
I think a lot of people in football know more about what is going on at our club than us and hence will understand and sympathise with Powell's position.
They might, but if I were interviewing Powell for the job my first question would be to ask him to explain how he had envisged the team he picked yesterday functioning.
With Diego Poyet playing very deep, with Jackson lacking pace and not being renowned as a "picker of a pass", with Cousins a battler but not a wide player and with Harriott, potentially dangerous, but a maverick, how exactly did he expect to get the ball into Tudgay and Church? I'd be intrigued to hear the answer, but my expectations would not be high. All I know is that neither of our strikers got any service yesterday, but nor did I expect them to having seen the team selected. Extraordinary really.
My follow up question would then be to ask why, when a 4-5-1 system worked well in a similar game against Sheffield Wednesday, he did not go with a similar approach against United. If the interview was still "live" after that I might then ask whether he'd thought about playing Nego at RB (or even Morrison with Dervite joining Wood in the middle), allowing Wilson to step into midfield. If the answer was yes I'd then ask why he chose not to go this route.
If he gets the job at QPR (which I doubt) it will be because whoever is making the decision knows even less about football than I do and can't even muster trivial yet potentially revealing questions like these.
By the way, these are the sort of questions journalists should be asking rather than the anodyne " ... you must be very disappointed .... Yes, if Callum had taken that chance ... " blather.
I think it is very easy to sit and question tactics and formations without knowing the real reasons why certain choices are made.
This. This, this this this this.
This.
This is why this forum can be so irritating. The experts. So many experts.
I know what I want, what I'd like, and what works on video games. But I'll be damned if I'll ever claim to know better than any manager. Anywhere. I remember Curbs' point about Parker, I think it was, when we were half-booing when he got subbed regularly. "He's always knackered after 60 minutes, he can't run any more. His legs go dead! The fans don't get it" Or words to that effect. Yet still the fans booed Curbs through a lack of knowledge.
When I read posts about what a manager should've done, posts that are so certain in their conviction, I picture what the poster would be like if they were suddenly thrust into the dressing room and made manager for the day.
Would they be so bold then? Or would they freeze, suddenly aware of so much more, realising that they can't actually muster the bluster to order professional footballers around and deal with the 15k opinions shouted at them from the stands?
I know I'd struggle. So I'll rarely say what our manager, Powell or otherwise, should have done. I don't reckon there's many on here qualified to either. I'm glad I'm not the manager, and I hope I never contribute to making his job harder than it already is.
I think a lot of people in football know more about what is going on at our club than us and hence will understand and sympathise with Powell's position.
They might, but if I were interviewing Powell for the job my first question would be to ask him to explain how he had envisged the team he picked yesterday functioning.
With Diego Poyet playing very deep, with Jackson lacking pace and not being renowned as a "picker of a pass", with Cousins a battler but not a wide player and with Harriott, potentially dangerous, but a maverick, how exactly did he expect to get the ball into Tudgay and Church? I'd be intrigued to hear the answer, but my expectations would not be high. All I know is that neither of our strikers got any service yesterday, but nor did I expect them to having seen the team selected. Extraordinary really.
My follow up question would then be to ask why, when a 4-5-1 system worked well in a similar game against Sheffield Wednesday, he did not go with a similar approach against United. If the interview was still "live" after that I might then ask whether he'd thought about playing Nego at RB (or even Morrison with Dervite joining Wood in the middle), allowing Wilson to step into midfield. If the answer was yes I'd then ask why he chose not to go this route.
If he gets the job at QPR (which I doubt) it will be because whoever is making the decision knows even less about football than I do and can't even muster trivial yet potentially revealing questions like these.
By the way, these are the sort of questions journalists should be asking rather than the anodyne " ... you must be very disappointed .... Yes, if Callum had taken that chance ... " blather.
I think it is very easy to sit and question tactics and formations without knowing the real reasons why certain choices are made.
This. This, this this this this.
This.
This is why this forum can be so irritating. The experts. So many experts.
I know what I want, what I'd like, and what works on video games. But I'll be damned if I'll ever claim to know better than any manager. Anywhere. I remember Curbs' point about Parker, I think it was, when we were half-booing when he got subbed regularly. "He's always knackered after 60 minutes, he can't run any more. His legs go dead! The fans don't get it" Or words to that effect. Yet still the fans booed Curbs through a lack of knowledge.
When I read posts about what a manager should've done, posts that are so certain in their conviction, I picture what the poster would be like if they were suddenly thrust into the dressing room and made manager for the day.
Would they be so bold then? Or would they freeze, suddenly aware of so much more, realising that they can't actually muster the bluster to order professional footballers around and deal with the 15k opinions shouted at them from the stands?
I know I'd struggle. So I'll rarely say what our manager, Powell or otherwise, should have done. I don't reckon there's many on here qualified to either. I'm glad I'm not the manager, and I hope I never contribute to making his job harder than it already is.
But then to take a simple example from another club, Adebayor is completely frozen out under AVB, training with the kids. AVB is sacked, new manager comes in and plays Adebayor, who's been Tottenham's best player since. All managers have blind spots, closer to home, Colin Walsh was out of the cold under Lennie, Gritt and Curbs take over and he becomes a key player. Just because Powell knows 1000 times as much about football as I do, it doesn't mean that everything he does is correct.
All well and good Mundell... but who else would you put in the midfield?
Adjarevic perhaps should have started but given Tudgay's record against sheff u I would've started him. Sure, it didn't work out, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Nego is an unknown quantity, at least wilson has some experience of playing RB rather than putting morrison there!
That's fair enough and I agree entirely that hindsight is a wonderful thing. Hence, anything I say now is somewhat empty.
However, I really don't see how that set up was going to work. For what its worth, and I'm not claiming to be an expert, I'd have gone for a 4-5-1 or a variant thereof because I feel we always look more solid set up that way. Perhaps Poyet could then have anchored with Jackson and Cousins either side with a brief to push on when they could. Harriott then plays wide left leaving wide right the problem position. We need a loan signing for that role for sure. In the meantime, I'd try to find a way to accommodate Wilson, but I accept that may not be possible, especially given United's threat down the flanks.
All that having been said there are no easy answers. I'd just don't think the team selection yesterday helped. If there was a logic to it. Great. Let's hear it. I'm doubtful, but I'm also still raw. It'll no doubt pass.
PS Morrison has played right back. Powell even made the point that he could play there on the Tactics discussion programme he did several weeks ago.
Morrison played at right back in the game at Stevenage in 2011. It was one of the reasons we lost. He's too slow to play there in the Championship, in my opinion.
I never once suggested everything he does is correct. I said I don't know any better, and won't post on a forum telling him how wrong he has been, and how wrong he is. Of course he makes mistakes, but none of us are in full possession of the facts enough to be so certain that we are right.
A forum like this would be a strange place if we were not allowed our opinion's. I criticise and make known my views but I never claim to be right. Very, very occasionally I might be but the majority of the time I'm not. The same applies to everyone on here. Most of the time there is no right or wrong, just opinions.
I never once suggested everything he does is correct. I said I don't know any better, and won't post on a forum telling him how wrong he has been, and how wrong he is. Of course he makes mistakes, but none of us are in full possession of the facts enough to be so certain that we are right.
Of course everything we say has to be prefaced with IMHO :-) As I am a long way clear in the Fantasy Premier League Charlton Life mini league, I like to think this gives my views extra weight!
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Get Kiely in goal, Powelly at LB, Matty Holland in the middle, and Jase up front. We will probably have more chance of staying up with that lot.
Get Paul Hart managing it too.
The story is laughable!
With Diego Poyet playing very deep, with Jackson lacking pace and not being renowned as a "picker of a pass", with Cousins a battler but not a wide player and with Harriott, potentially dangerous, but a maverick, how exactly did he expect to get the ball into Tudgay and Church? I'd be intrigued to hear the answer, but my expectations would not be high. All I know is that neither of our strikers got any service yesterday, but nor did I expect them to having seen the team selected. Extraordinary really.
My follow up question would then be to ask why, when a 4-5-1 system worked well in a similar game against Sheffield Wednesday, he did not go with a similar approach against United. If the interview was still "live" after that I might then ask whether he'd thought about playing Nego at RB (or even Morrison with Dervite joining Wood in the middle), allowing Wilson to step into midfield. If the answer was yes I'd then ask why he chose not to go this route.
If he gets the job at QPR (which I doubt) it will be because whoever is making the decision knows even less about football than I do and can't even muster trivial yet potentially revealing questions like these.
By the way, these are the sort of questions journalists should be asking rather than the anodyne " ... you must be very disappointed .... Yes, if Callum had taken that chance ... " blather.
Adjarevic perhaps should have started but given Tudgay's record against sheff u I would've started him. Sure, it didn't work out, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Nego is an unknown quantity, at least wilson has some experience of playing RB rather than putting morrison there!
Nego has clearly not impressed as he would have played there with Wilson ahead of him as Powell prefers him at right midfield.
I think it is very easy to sit and question tactics and formations without knowing the real reasons why certain choices are made.
I'm sure whoever is doing the QPR or any other interview would not focus on this one game. All managers get things wrong.
My questions would focus more on all the successes he has had in his first three years of management and how he could apply this approach at a club where he will be given backing and funding.
However, I really don't see how that set up was going to work. For what its worth, and I'm not claiming to be an expert, I'd have gone for a 4-5-1 or a variant thereof because I feel we always look more solid set up that way. Perhaps Poyet could then have anchored with Jackson and Cousins either side with a brief to push on when they could. Harriott then plays wide left leaving wide right the problem position. We need a loan signing for that role for sure. In the meantime, I'd try to find a way to accommodate Wilson, but I accept that may not be possible, especially given United's threat down the flanks.
All that having been said there are no easy answers. I'd just don't think the team selection yesterday helped. If there was a logic to it. Great. Let's hear it. I'm doubtful, but I'm also still raw. It'll no doubt pass.
PS Morrison has played right back. Powell even made the point that he could play there on the Tactics discussion programme he did several weeks ago.
I'd love us to have a team where there's no weak point, or even every player in their preferred position (!) but we just can't do that with the players we've got at the moment.
For what it's worth, perhaps a more experienced manager would've set up differently, but I guess we'll never know. One thing for sure is cousins cannot start RM on wednesday!
As to who does... i'm glad it's not my job to decide that.
Maybe then he 'd be in a stronger position to show just what he can achieve with a set of players he chose....
...but of course he's already shown that in the promotion season !
What short memories some of "us" have !
This.
This is why this forum can be so irritating. The experts. So many experts.
I know what I want, what I'd like, and what works on video games. But I'll be damned if I'll ever claim to know better than any manager. Anywhere. I remember Curbs' point about Parker, I think it was, when we were half-booing when he got subbed regularly. "He's always knackered after 60 minutes, he can't run any more. His legs go dead! The fans don't get it" Or words to that effect. Yet still the fans booed Curbs through a lack of knowledge.
When I read posts about what a manager should've done, posts that are so certain in their conviction, I picture what the poster would be like if they were suddenly thrust into the dressing room and made manager for the day.
Would they be so bold then? Or would they freeze, suddenly aware of so much more, realising that they can't actually muster the bluster to order professional footballers around and deal with the 15k opinions shouted at them from the stands?
I know I'd struggle. So I'll rarely say what our manager, Powell or otherwise, should have done. I don't reckon there's many on here qualified to either. I'm glad I'm not the manager, and I hope I never contribute to making his job harder than it already is.
I meant that I agreed with you about loving to have a team with no weak links .
Seems like I'm the weakest link...goodbye !
:-)
As I am a long way clear in the Fantasy Premier League Charlton Life mini league, I like to think this gives my views extra weight!