I think they had 1200 tickets and sold just under 1100 before the day. Didn't seem many gaps as I remember. Game was a sell out in home areas and no give aways - all the 4k T40k/Valley express paid the full £20/£15/£10 price.
before people rubbish their turnout let's not forget that our support at Man City isn't much better when you consider our higher home attendances than Wigan. In fact theirs is better. Shame on us. 400 tickets left. Why ffs ??
There were tickets given to a Boys Football club in Clacton. There was about 50-60 of them in the Jimmy Seed stand. Noticed quite a lot of kids in there.
[cite]Posted By: elcafc[/cite]There were tickets given to a Boys Football club in Clacton. There was about 50-60 of them in the Jimmy Seed stand. Noticed quite a lot of kids in there.
Don't think they were "given". They had to be paid for.
[cite]Posted By: LargeAddick[/cite]before people rubbish their turnout let's not forget that our support at Man City isn't much better when you consider our higher home attendances than Wigan. In fact theirs is better. Shame on us. 400 tickets left. Why ffs ??
True but that's 5.15 and it's on TV but people who live in glasses houses will have trouble getting a mortgage.
I was talking to the fella who ran the Football club who said that Charlton had invited them down. That's why I got the impression they were giveaways.
[cite]Posted By: elcafc[/cite]I was talking to the fella who ran the Football club who said that Charlton had invited them down. That's why I got the impression they were giveaways.
Charlton contact a lot of leagues and clubs as well as other youth groups such a cubs/scouts and invite them but they have to pay for the tickets. They do sometimes get a free or cheaper coach if they take 50/60 tickets eg a coachful. We get lots of kids coming from places like Hastings and Dover where there is no league club.
Anyone can contact wendy.perfect@cafc.co.uk if they are interested.
how we can ever take the pee out of any clubs away following baffles me... what did we have at wigan 600? when you compare how many we get at home to how many we bring away it's pathetic... unless it's a freebie/cheapie/or a new ground our away support is f***ing s**t
this is the back end of the season ,there fighting for relegation they bring under 1000 to london,we bring over 2000 to city on a good friday were some people might have to take the day off work,and will have to sit on a coach,fiver or not i would rather be on the train,i rember going to see millwall wigan in that naff cup a few years back,millwall brought over 40000 wigan brought around seven,there a awful supported club.
we have sold 1600 for city. its a bank holiday so 90% of people are off. there is a £5 travel option.
now you mention wembley,
in 1999 wigan had 7000 at wembley, in 2007 they take 1000 to the valley (1 supporter in 7) with no subsidised travel.
in 1998 we took 35000 to wembley and have sold 1600 for city (1 in 22ish) with subsidised travel.
we are in the same relegation fight and we are a club on the ascendency.
[cite]Posted By: paulbaconsarnie[/cite]we have sold 1600 for city. its a bank holiday so 90% of people are off. there is a £5 travel option.
now you mention wembley,
in 1999 wigan had 7000 at wembley, in 2007 they take 1000 to the valley (1 supporter in 7) with no subsidised travel.
in 1998 we took 35000 to wembley and have sold 1600 for city (1 in 22ish) with subsidised travel.
we are in the same relegation fight and we are a club on the ascendency.
We are badly supported away from home due to, I think, our lack of a large core support. Half of the people down The Valley are Premiership fans not real Charlton fans. 75% of the people around me in The east Stand are like damp squibs who clap at best to 'Red Army' and complain that I'm too loud.
These people do not care about going away. The comparison with Wembley '98 is spot on.
Anyway, who cares how much support they Wigan bring. They're just a replacement for Wimbledon - except they play rugby instead of tennis.
[cite]Posted By: jimmymelrose[/cite]We are badly supported away from home due to, I think, our lack of a large core support. Half of the people down The Valley are Premiership fans not real Charlton fans. 75% of the people around me in The east Stand are like damp squibs who clap at best to 'Red Army' and complain that I'm too loud.
These people do not care about going away. The comparison with Wembley '98 is spot on.
Anyway, who cares how much support they Wigan bring. They're just a replacement for Wimbledon - except they play rugby instead of tennis.
I think some of what you say is true but........ what else can we do? If you go back into distant history our support was very fickle. Crowd numbers varied greatly game to game. In the sixties and seventies it dwindled to home averages of somewhere between 7 and 12k. Then we had the years of exile. It wasn't long ago that we had Target 10,000. It takes time to build your home support, let alone the away. Going away is a lot about a shared experience with your mates. This has to be built up. Another thing is we haven't had any semi or finals to go to. If your team has a history of this, and qualification for tickets is an issue, then this drives people to go more to away games.
Yes we have some "fair weather" Premiership supporters but some of those will gradually change to "die hards". The only way is hard work in ticketing initiatives and success on the pitch.
lucy
i only go involved in this thread because i thought calling wigan a 'piss poor club' is unfair.
not long ago they were playing at a sh**hole of a ground, in the bottom tier of english football situated in the heart of rugby league land. they then get a chairman willing to invest in the team and build a ground (albeit shared with egg chasers) then within a few years find themselves rubbing shoulders with some of europes biggest clubs. i think that acheivement has a few similarities to our recent years, yet they have not got the 'history' of having generations that remember 50,000 spectators regularly at home games so it will take a long time for them to build their fanbase. we go on about missing 1 part of 1 generation in our 7 year exile as a possible excuse for losing our supporters.
i just cant understand the logic in singing 'is that all you take away' etc to people who have actually travelled away. it's the ones that are missing that it really should be sung at, but how you do that i don't know.
anyway,
ALAN PARDEW'S RED AND WHITE ARMY
If we were to go down our away support would probably increase. A lot of fans have done the premiership grounds and unless there's something on the game why do they want to pay 46 quid to go to Chelsea or 38 to go to Spurs.
I will agree that i would've thought we'd have sold out Man City though.
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Weren't you there Razil?
Don't think they were "given". They had to be paid for.
True but that's 5.15 and it's on TV but people who live in glasses houses will have trouble getting a mortgage.
Charlton contact a lot of leagues and clubs as well as other youth groups such a cubs/scouts and invite them but they have to pay for the tickets. They do sometimes get a free or cheaper coach if they take 50/60 tickets eg a coachful. We get lots of kids coming from places like Hastings and Dover where there is no league club.
Anyone can contact wendy.perfect@cafc.co.uk if they are interested.
It is therefore easier for other clubs to get a decent away turnout for London games than it is for us travelling north.
if 900 is piss poor, how many did we take to boro???????????????
does that make wigans support 4/5 times better than ours?
now you mention wembley,
in 1999 wigan had 7000 at wembley, in 2007 they take 1000 to the valley (1 supporter in 7) with no subsidised travel.
in 1998 we took 35000 to wembley and have sold 1600 for city (1 in 22ish) with subsidised travel.
we are in the same relegation fight and we are a club on the ascendency.
you crack me up!
About 12-15 thousand (I think).
Attendance on Saturday was 26,500 of which 25,500 were supporting the team in red
These people do not care about going away. The comparison with Wembley '98 is spot on.
Anyway, who cares how much support they Wigan bring. They're just a replacement for Wimbledon - except they play rugby instead of tennis.
I think some of what you say is true but........ what else can we do? If you go back into distant history our support was very fickle. Crowd numbers varied greatly game to game. In the sixties and seventies it dwindled to home averages of somewhere between 7 and 12k. Then we had the years of exile. It wasn't long ago that we had Target 10,000. It takes time to build your home support, let alone the away. Going away is a lot about a shared experience with your mates. This has to be built up. Another thing is we haven't had any semi or finals to go to. If your team has a history of this, and qualification for tickets is an issue, then this drives people to go more to away games.
Yes we have some "fair weather" Premiership supporters but some of those will gradually change to "die hards". The only way is hard work in ticketing initiatives and success on the pitch.
i only go involved in this thread because i thought calling wigan a 'piss poor club' is unfair.
not long ago they were playing at a sh**hole of a ground, in the bottom tier of english football situated in the heart of rugby league land. they then get a chairman willing to invest in the team and build a ground (albeit shared with egg chasers) then within a few years find themselves rubbing shoulders with some of europes biggest clubs. i think that acheivement has a few similarities to our recent years, yet they have not got the 'history' of having generations that remember 50,000 spectators regularly at home games so it will take a long time for them to build their fanbase. we go on about missing 1 part of 1 generation in our 7 year exile as a possible excuse for losing our supporters.
i just cant understand the logic in singing 'is that all you take away' etc to people who have actually travelled away. it's the ones that are missing that it really should be sung at, but how you do that i don't know.
anyway,
ALAN PARDEW'S RED AND WHITE ARMY
I will agree that i would've thought we'd have sold out Man City though.