The special ,never to be for gotten games is what I miss.4-2 at Highbury ,Several away wins at Tottenham.4-4 with west ham and on and on.I hate the current situation and really hope we get one more shot at it .
Personally I think the club lost it's soul in the PL. We had players here just to extract every last penny even though they were millionaires many times over.....I think the wages in the top flight are absurd, the behavior of some of the players questionable and then add on the annual fight to stay up to enable the so called stars to maintain a lifestyle which is way beyond what anyone here will ever achiveve, is a recipe for me to say NO I don't miss the Premier League. Just remember the poor showing by the so called Premier league players when we got relegated.......they couldn't be arsed in the main.
I think Tel nails this one very nicely indeed.
Basically the more we moved away from the Legends of the Curbs era: Kiely, Rufus, Powell, Kinsella, Robinson, Hunt, Jensen, Stuart, Parker then the less enjoyable it got because the new players that came in towards the last two or three years were in many - certainly not all - cases just here for the money.
Sure we brought in guys who really bought into the club like Darren Bent, Luke Young and Herman Hreidarsson but we had so many others like Jerome Thomas, Francis Jeffers, Dennis Rommedahl, Danny Murphy, Marcus Bent, JFH and so many others for whom we were just another club.
In part this is why I do have some concerns about the RD 'network' approach because it might hinder the building of a tight-knit playing group if there are too many transient players in the squad.
After just paying £15 for my ticket and £1 for my 15 year old stepson's ticket for the F A Cup 5th round game at Hillsborough, I can honestly say, no, I don't miss it.
We lived in Eltham (Aug 98 - Dec 2005) this obviously coincided with a very successful period in Charlton's history. Loved being able to walk to the ground in about an hour or so. After we moved things went downhill (not for us but for CAFC). I don't particularly miss the Prem days but do miss living that close to the ground.
Mixed feelings. When I think of winning at Highbury, White Hart Lane and Stamford Bridge, our unbeaten run of about 12 games against London opposition, beating Liverpool at home with relative frequency, being in the top 7 with half the season gone and believing that we had a genuine chance of qualifying for Europe - I certainly miss all that.
I don't miss - deciding not to go to Stamford Bridge because £48 was too much to pay for a near certain defeat, the brave performances at home to Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, etc from the early Prem years being replaced by predictable "roll over and die" 3 and 4 nil defeats in the later years, listening to deluded knobends slagging off Curbs for not being able to take us to the "Next level", the depressing reality that there wasn't really anything to aspire to once we were safe from relegation.
I miss the fact that we are no longer on the football radar.
I liked some aspects of the Premiership but I like some aspects of what is going on now. It can hardly be described as a dull period in our history just now. But I loved the Valley Party campaign and the count in the town hall, I loved the Wemberlee final most of all I loved our promotion season with Andy Nelson in 1976 during my formative years.
I guess that I like the variety and the swinging fortunes that come with supporting Charlton. If we never had rubbish football served up to us we wouldn't appreciate the good stuff when we get it.
Mixed feelings. When I think of winning at Highbury, White Hart Lane and Stamford Bridge, our unbeaten run of about 12 games against London opposition, beating Liverpool at home with relative frequency, being in the top 7 with half the season gone and believing that we had a genuine chance of qualifying for Europe - I certainly miss all that.
I don't miss - deciding not to go to Stamford Bridge because £48 was too much to pay for a near certain defeat, the brave performances at home to Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, etc from the early Prem years being replaced by predictable "roll over and die" 3 and 4 nil defeats in the later years, listening to deluded knobends slagging off Curbs for not being able to take us to the "Next level", the depressing reality that there wasn't really anything to aspire to once we were safe from relegation.
The last two lines are superb, you are really there as fodder, that's it.
Mixed feelings. When I think of winning at Highbury, White Hart Lane and Stamford Bridge, our unbeaten run of about 12 games against London opposition, beating Liverpool at home with relative frequency, being in the top 7 with half the season gone and believing that we had a genuine chance of qualifying for Europe - I certainly miss all that.
I don't miss - deciding not to go to Stamford Bridge because £48 was too much to pay for a near certain defeat, the brave performances at home to Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, etc from the early Prem years being replaced by predictable "roll over and die" 3 and 4 nil defeats in the later years, listening to deluded knobends slagging off Curbs for not being able to take us to the "Next level", the depressing reality that there wasn't really anything to aspire to once we were safe from relegation.
The last two lines are superb, you are really there as fodder, that's it.
Hasn't changed since we departed either. Looking at the current Premier League table, Southampton are the equivalent of us at our peak - they might retain a token interest in the Europa League slots for a few more weeks but, ultimately, that top 7 is impenetrable. The reward for being a well run, successful mid-size club is a big pot of cash so that you can come back next season and have another crack at being top of the also rans.
Not that much to be honest, I don't miss the 27,011 crowd because I feel a lot of them weren't even Charlton fans. I don't miss going away to Man United, Liverpool or Arsenal every season to see a spanking. The Championship is the best league, six new teams every season, 3 small possible new grounds or 3 large ground depending on who comes down.
Curbs managed to turn relatively limited talents of the likes of John Robinson, Steve Brown and Keith Jones in to solid Premiership players.
However when I watch Premiership games today I feel that even in the past 5-10 seasons, the game has moved up another couple of notches and these types simply wouldn't cut it any longer. It almost feels like a different world even from the one we all remember in our own relatively recent memory.
I miss the premiership days now mainly for the lack of coverage especially live games on TV - being abroad you have 0 coverage on charlton nowadays.
It's really hard for my son, he has never seen charlton live, so I don't blame him when he doesn't share the same enthusiasm.
I think it is the same for every Charlton fan outside of England.I started to follow the club in 2004 and almost every Saturday night I would stay up and listen to live commentary on the net.As for TV coverage,we were on TV once every month/two months on average during that time,which I was fairly happy about.I went to university in 2005 and although I didn't have a TV set where I was living,my Dad would record Charlton games off TV for me and I would go home every month to watch games I had missed.It continued until we got relegated.
Nowadays it's totally different.Every Prem game can be found live on the internet.I almost can't imagine how excited I'd be on every match day if we were in the Premier League now.And it's the reason why I'm so dying for our return to the Premier League.For a fan like me,to watch us live on TV is just the most important thing.So I miss the Premier League days,very much.
I miss it to a large certain degree yes. Being in what is known as the best league in the world. There are many reasons to miss the premier league. If you don't miss it, then really, what are you aspiring to in being a Charlton fan? You want to see us do well but you don't want us to get promoted?
I don't miss the plastic fans that just showed up for a cheap premier league game as they can't afford to go Arsenal. Don't miss the strange extreme high expectation of our fans wanting curbs out. I don't miss routinely signing rubbish like Marcus bent just to fill the squad. Don't miss Mark Fish.
If you take out how much tickets cost, and that awful season we got relegated, part from that, the premier league years were great and the positives, highlights and memories, far outweigh the negatives.
I don't get the problem with the so called 'plastic fans'. Now they've long gone the atmosphere hasn't got amazing with the core support only. Now we're just in a half empty stadium playing piss poor football. But hooray...no plastics.
I miss it because, until I come over, I rarely see a game now. We used to be on every week when we were in the premier league.
Apart from that though I don't really miss it. It's all about following Charlton whatever division we're in. The emotions are all the same. We win I'm ecstatic, we lose I'm depressed, we draw I'm not quite so depressed.
I think what a lot of people are missing out on, is the fact that the Premier League attracts new young fans. so you perhaps didnt enjoy the school or youth football team visits as most of the kids turned up in other premier league kits, myself included, I wince at the thought of going to the Valley in a Man United kit but guess what after a few visits it became very clear to me that I no longer cared about United who my family had tried to make me support by buying me kits for my birthday or the other family choice was Aston Villa which admittedly I do like them and go once a season. But no matter what league were playing in, I try to go as often as possible a minimum of 5 times a seasom which is not that easy as a student. I have to say that those trips convinced and even a few others I know to swap there Arsenal,Liverpool, United or Chelsea for Charlton and so in terms of recruiting young fans I think the Premier League years were successful in doing that. That said I enjoyed the games in our league one season a lot more than being spanked by Man United et al.
After just paying £15 for my ticket and £1 for my 15 year old stepson's ticket for the F A Cup 5th round game at Hillsborough, I can honestly say, no, I don't miss it.
I paid £20 & £5. Starting to feel robbed
;-) Bargain, win lose or draw.
£26 at the Keepmoat, now to say that didn't feel like much bang for my buck, is an understatement!
Great memories from that Man Utd video. I had forgotten that game was Bartlett's debut. Other thoughts - how good were those Chris Powell crosses in the early stages of the 1st half, equally for the Graham Stuart crosses for the goals, the guy who named Kishishev as our worst ever player needs to watch that game, what a cracking, never say die team we had that day.
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Basically the more we moved away from the Legends of the Curbs era: Kiely, Rufus, Powell, Kinsella, Robinson, Hunt, Jensen, Stuart, Parker then the less enjoyable it got because the new players that came in towards the last two or three years were in many - certainly not all - cases just here for the money.
Sure we brought in guys who really bought into the club like Darren Bent, Luke Young and Herman Hreidarsson but we had so many others like Jerome Thomas, Francis Jeffers, Dennis Rommedahl, Danny Murphy, Marcus Bent, JFH and so many others for whom we were just another club.
In part this is why I do have some concerns about the RD 'network' approach because it might hinder the building of a tight-knit playing group if there are too many transient players in the squad.
I don't miss - deciding not to go to Stamford Bridge because £48 was too much to pay for a near certain defeat, the brave performances at home to Arsenal, Man U, Chelsea, etc from the early Prem years being replaced by predictable "roll over and die" 3 and 4 nil defeats in the later years, listening to deluded knobends slagging off Curbs for not being able to take us to the "Next level", the depressing reality that there wasn't really anything to aspire to once we were safe from relegation.
I liked some aspects of the Premiership but I like some aspects of what is going on now. It can hardly be described as a dull period in our history just now. But I loved the Valley Party campaign and the count in the town hall, I loved the Wemberlee final most of all I loved our promotion season with Andy Nelson in 1976 during my formative years.
I guess that I like the variety and the swinging fortunes that come with supporting Charlton. If we never had rubbish football served up to us we wouldn't appreciate the good stuff when we get it.
It's really hard for my son, he has never seen charlton live, so I don't blame him when he doesn't share the same enthusiasm.
I don't miss going away to Man United, Liverpool or Arsenal every season to see a spanking.
The Championship is the best league, six new teams every season, 3 small possible new grounds or 3 large ground depending on who comes down.
Curbs managed to turn relatively limited talents of the likes of John Robinson, Steve Brown and Keith Jones in to solid Premiership players.
However when I watch Premiership games today I feel that even in the past 5-10 seasons, the game has moved up another couple of notches and these types simply wouldn't cut it any longer. It almost feels like a different world even from the one we all remember in our own relatively recent memory.
Nowadays it's totally different.Every Prem game can be found live on the internet.I almost can't imagine how excited I'd be on every match day if we were in the Premier League now.And it's the reason why I'm so dying for our return to the Premier League.For a fan like me,to watch us live on TV is just the most important thing.So I miss the Premier League days,very much.
There are many reasons to miss the premier league. If you don't miss it, then really, what are you aspiring to in being a Charlton fan? You want to see us do well but you don't want us to get promoted?
I don't miss the plastic fans that just showed up for a cheap premier league game as they can't afford to go Arsenal. Don't miss the strange extreme high expectation of our fans wanting curbs out.
I don't miss routinely signing rubbish like Marcus bent just to fill the squad.
Don't miss Mark Fish.
If you take out how much tickets cost, and that awful season we got relegated, part from that, the premier league years were great and the positives, highlights and memories, far outweigh the negatives.
Apart from that though I don't really miss it. It's all about following Charlton whatever division we're in. The emotions are all the same. We win I'm ecstatic, we lose I'm depressed, we draw I'm not quite so depressed.
;-) Bargain, win lose or draw.
£26 at the Keepmoat, now to say that didn't feel like much bang for my buck, is an understatement!
Do miss days where it stayed dry.