I'm, genuinely, grateful that they came in when they did as we were in real trouble - even if they did it for personal gain. I also don't mind people putting a positive spin on things and making themselves out to be the good guy with platitudes towards the fans etc.
However, when they bought the club we were 4th, ten points above the relegation zone and as we'd achieved more points than the three teams (two outside of the relegation zone and one in it) I have no reason to believe that relegation would have followed, even if we'd had to scrap to avoid it.
Changing the story to make him sound more like a savior is rather Machiavellian and completely destroys any credibility he might have achieved with the post.
Having said that it is obviously not aimed at Charlton fans so he doesn't care what we think and can lie all day long if he likes.
We finished 13th in 2010/11 which is probably where he got the stat from, handily overlooking the fact they bought the club mid-season!
Perhaps he viewed that intervening period as being a five-month training programme for Powell which in a sense was implicitly true, even if it wasn't much comfort for those fans who paid good money to watch the garbage on show at the time.
"So, finally, I'd like to thank the fans for their unwavering support of the team and the manager during my time at The Valley, and for all of the kind messages and emails.
I am sure that they will provide the new owners with the same levels of warmth and support that we have received during our tenure. "
Glad they took us over when they did, glad they bought in CP, glad we got out of that poxy league, glad they have bought in a European owner who clearly loves football.
Well written, comes across as if he's done a magic job but to be honest all he's done is get involved, and jump ship when he hit a wall and it was costing him too much. Also trying to make it out as if he's sold it to the best option, when in fact he was struggling to off load us. Atleast we are in the Championship, but our goal has to be back to the Prem long term, not stay in the Championship, you have to have high hopes.
I would believe it slightly more if the bloke had just once in those wonderful three years had the good grace and courtesy to address the fans or shown us anything other than contempt. Bye Tony I'm glad you've gone.
Absolute chancers, clearly bought with the object of a quick profit. glad we have new owners who I hope will bring stability to he club. wonder if they got their money back
Could have had a swipe at some areas of the fanbase, but didn't.
So the 2 sentences below were neither sarcasm or self-serving PR flannel - but sincerely meant?
"So, finally, I'd like to thank the fans for their unwavering support of the team and the manager during my time at The Valley, and for all of the kind messages and emails.
I am sure that they will provide the new owners with the same levels of warmth and support that we have received during our tenure".
Could have had a swipe at some areas of the fanbase, but didn't.
So the 2 sentences below were neither sarcasm or self-serving PR flannel - but sincerely meant?
"So, finally, I'd like to thank the fans for their unwavering support of the team and the manager during my time at The Valley, and for all of the kind messages and emails.
I am sure that they will provide the new owners with the same levels of warmth and support that we have received during our tenure".
So I take it you know the bloke to know that it is sarcasm or self-selving PR flannel?
He may not have received tons of lovely e-mails and kisses from Charlton fans, but maybe he's just trying to be professional in his departure. People leave jobs all the time where they maybe didn't get along with peers or enjoy the work, but they still thank those around them.
shame he couldn't engage the fans while here. No fans meetings, nada in the programme, would rather be at The Bridge than The Valley. Good riddance I say.
Could have had a swipe at some areas of the fanbase, but didn't.
So the 2 sentences below were neither sarcasm or self-serving PR flannel - but sincerely meant?
"So, finally, I'd like to thank the fans for their unwavering support of the team and the manager during my time at The Valley, and for all of the kind messages and emails.
I am sure that they will provide the new owners with the same levels of warmth and support that we have received during our tenure".
So I take it you know the bloke to know that it is sarcasm or self-selving PR flannel?
He may not have received tons of lovely e-mails and kisses from Charlton fans, but maybe he's just trying to be professional in his departure. People leave jobs all the time where they maybe didn't get along with peers or enjoy the work, but they still thank those around them.
I was asking you the question since you said he "Could have had a swipe at some areas of the fanbase, but didn't".
So if someone left your workplace having been the subject of extensive criticism during their time there but then expressed the hope that the person replacing them will receive "the same levels of warmth and support that [they] received during [their] tenure" - you'd think they were just being 'professional'?
And now he decides to communicate with the heartbeat of the club through a website that most of us don't use. I can have some sympathy with his inability to fund the club as it needed over the last 12 months given that it looks like his major financial backer pulled the plug and likely problems with his own financial investments - and I hope it will be possible to thank him in future years for passing the club into a safe pair of hands. The new owner certainly looks to be a more reputable figure than is the norm for UK football clubs nowadays and the involvement of Richard Murray is a very positive sign.
Yes I do thank Slater and Jimenez for what they did for the club over the first 18 months and their continued backing of SCP - what I don't thank them for is the manner in which they handled their departure, the club's loyal employees and the general uncertainty they have created around the club. In a previous blog on HuffPo, Jimenez made disparaging comments about the impact of the uncertainty caused by clubs constantly changing their manager - what he didn't mention, perhaps wisely, that there are many other things that can create uncertainty in a football club (or any other organisation for that matter).
I would believe it slightly more if the bloke had just once in those wonderful three years had the good grace and courtesy to address the fans or shown us anything other than contempt. Bye Tony I'm glad you've gone.
Do you believe we will get more correspondence from the Belgian??
Some people would moan because TJ and MS wouldn't be at the games. The new guy owns about 6 clubs, he can't be at them all.
Could have had a swipe at some areas of the fanbase, but didn't.
So the 2 sentences below were neither sarcasm or self-serving PR flannel - but sincerely meant?
"So, finally, I'd like to thank the fans for their unwavering support of the team and the manager during my time at The Valley, and for all of the kind messages and emails.
I am sure that they will provide the new owners with the same levels of warmth and support that we have received during our tenure".
So I take it you know the bloke to know that it is sarcasm or self-selving PR flannel?
He may not have received tons of lovely e-mails and kisses from Charlton fans, but maybe he's just trying to be professional in his departure. People leave jobs all the time where they maybe didn't get along with peers or enjoy the work, but they still thank those around them.
I was asking you the question since you said he "Could have had a swipe at some areas of the fanbase, but didn't".
So if someone left your workplace having been the subject of extensive criticism during their time there but then expressed the hope that the person replacing them will receive "the same levels of warmth and support that [they] received during [their] tenure" - you'd think they were just being 'professional'?
He's been criticized on a message board. That's about it.
There haven't been anti-Jiminez songs at games, protests, banners or any other kind of public expression is disdain for him by Charlton supporters. Had there been any of those going on and he had then gone on to say the same, then it could maybe be seen as sarcasm.
In this case, I don't think it is. That's not to say I think that he is being 100% sincere about his affection to the fans either. He's posting on the Huffington Post and is probably just trying to word it in a way that comes across at least half classy. Nothing wrong with that.
There has been so much mud slinging on here by people that haven't got a clue just because a few high profile posters/sacked employees have had a moan
I thought it was a dignified post from TJ, it's a done deal now and I think we should all get behind the new regime, even if some have a few reservations
Just read the blog, it appears to be written with rose tinted glasses with hefty spin. It is interesting to read that Tone had received several offers for the club, and decided that the Duchalet club was best for the future for Charlton.
It is doubtful to me that he sold on the best grounds for Charlton. There appeared to be a few decent bids, Josh Harris for instance, that presented a more secure and stable future for Charlton. It appears that they wanted to get back a bit more money and selling to Duchalet allowed him to do that.
I think that the article is less about Charlton but more about TJs own PR image building and his future within the football business. Tone wants to paint a picture that he is able to subordinate / link his interests to the best interest of the clubs he becomes involved with.
The court cases and trouble with Varney and Kavanagh don't look good as Varney and Kavanagh are respected figures within the game. The exposure from the Dennis Wise case was not good for Tone. It is the losses for the Wise case and the other cases that appeared to have triggered the selling of the club.
Like all TJ things it is primarily how he can spin /work things for his own advantage.
TJ will likely want to be involved with other football clubs and he wants to present his time at Charlton as benign, and beneficial so he can be present a nice picture for future football involvements.
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However, when they bought the club we were 4th, ten points above the relegation zone and as we'd achieved more points than the three teams (two outside of the relegation zone and one in it) I have no reason to believe that relegation would have followed, even if we'd had to scrap to avoid it.
Changing the story to make him sound more like a savior is rather Machiavellian and completely destroys any credibility he might have achieved with the post.
Having said that it is obviously not aimed at Charlton fans so he doesn't care what we think and can lie all day long if he likes.
Perhaps he viewed that intervening period as being a five-month training programme for Powell which in a sense was implicitly true, even if it wasn't much comfort for those fans who paid good money to watch the garbage on show at the time.
I am sure that they will provide the new owners with the same levels of warmth and support that we have received during our tenure. "
Sarcasm reaching high levels here!
Glad they took us over when they did, glad they bought in CP, glad we got out of that poxy league, glad they have bought in a European owner who clearly loves football.
Thank you.
Like' you 'had any say in it.
wonder if they got their money back
Could have had a swipe at some areas of the fanbase, but didn't.
"So, finally, I'd like to thank the fans for their unwavering support of the team and the manager during my time at The Valley, and for all of the kind messages and emails.
I am sure that they will provide the new owners with the same levels of warmth and support that we have received during our tenure".
He may not have received tons of lovely e-mails and kisses from Charlton fans, but maybe he's just trying to be professional in his departure. People leave jobs all the time where they maybe didn't get along with peers or enjoy the work, but they still thank those around them.
So if someone left your workplace having been the subject of extensive criticism during their time there but then expressed the hope that the person replacing them will receive "the same levels of warmth and support that [they] received during [their] tenure" - you'd think they were just being 'professional'?
Yes I do thank Slater and Jimenez for what they did for the club over the first 18 months and their continued backing of SCP - what I don't thank them for is the manner in which they handled their departure, the club's loyal employees and the general uncertainty they have created around the club. In a previous blog on HuffPo, Jimenez made disparaging comments about the impact of the uncertainty caused by clubs constantly changing their manager - what he didn't mention, perhaps wisely, that there are many other things that can create uncertainty in a football club (or any other organisation for that matter).
Anyway onwards and upwards - COYR!
Some people would moan because TJ and MS wouldn't be at the games. The new guy owns about 6 clubs, he can't be at them all.
Can see there being plenty of double standards.
There haven't been anti-Jiminez songs at games, protests, banners or any other kind of public expression is disdain for him by Charlton supporters. Had there been any of those going on and he had then gone on to say the same, then it could maybe be seen as sarcasm.
In this case, I don't think it is. That's not to say I think that he is being 100% sincere about his affection to the fans either. He's posting on the Huffington Post and is probably just trying to word it in a way that comes across at least half classy. Nothing wrong with that.
There has been so much mud slinging on here by people that haven't got a clue just because a few high profile posters/sacked employees have had a moan
I thought it was a dignified post from TJ, it's a done deal now and I think we should all get behind the new regime, even if some have a few reservations
Unfortunately, it's a load of old bollocks.
Bare faced liar as proved in court.
We are well rid !
It is doubtful to me that he sold on the best grounds for Charlton. There appeared to be a few decent bids, Josh Harris for instance, that presented a more secure and stable future for Charlton. It appears that they wanted to get back a bit more money and selling to Duchalet allowed him to do that.
I think that the article is less about Charlton but more about TJs own PR image building and his future within the football business. Tone wants to paint a picture that he is able to subordinate / link his interests to the best interest of the clubs he becomes involved with.
The court cases and trouble with Varney and Kavanagh don't look good as Varney and Kavanagh are respected figures within the game. The exposure from the Dennis Wise case was not good for Tone. It is the losses for the Wise case and the other cases that appeared to have triggered the selling of the club.
Like all TJ things it is primarily how he can spin /work things for his own advantage.
TJ will likely want to be involved with other football clubs and he wants to present his time at Charlton as benign, and beneficial so he can be present a nice picture for future football involvements.