Never gonna happen, and an apology won't do anything for our league position. Don't usually moan about officials but they have cost us points against both Leeds and Reading now.
Absolutely atrocious ref. I counted three times where he got in the way of players, once for them and twice for us. Once you can understand but if you're in the way on three separate occasions you need to sort yourself out. The worst was when we had the free kick on the edge of the box and Stephens played Wiggins in for a shot. The bloke blocked Wiggy's run off so well you'd think he learned to ref under Tony Pulis. Shameful.
He doesn't need to explain it. He obviously doesn't feel it was a penalty. Refs should not be put in front of cameras after the game to explain decisions or why they did or didn't award something. Players don't have to justify why they made mistakes in games in front of the cameras and neither should refs. Imagine a ref making a mistake in a game, coming on TV to accept it and then reffing at Stanford Bridge or Old Trafford the next week. The likes of Mourinho and Moyes would have a field day using mind games. Refs get the large majority of decisions correct...more than any manager or player does.
Plus all the stopping of play whenever there was any injury breaking play up and leading to a drop ball. He must have done this 3 or 4 times last night. I thought refs only did this for head injuries or obviously something serious. Also happened on Saturday when the ball was about to go out for a throw to us when the ref blew for an Ipswich injury and it ended up a drop ball...
Darren Sheldrake is an attrocious referee; after his "whistle, no-goal, oh-alright-then-it's-a-goal" malarkey when we played Colchester a couple of years back, I thought we had seen the last of him, but no...he haunts this game. nearly every match he is put in charge of has controversy (it's not just Charlton). He is so poor that he really should be put out to grass. An embarassment to the league. Get rid!
Trying to look at it without my Charlton head on I think the ref maybe got it right. The defender never really puts his foot in and Church runs across him .
Trying to look at it without my Charlton head on I think the ref maybe got it right. The defender never really puts his foot in and Church runs across him .
It's less clear cut than I expected. But the acid test is, would I be furious at the ref, or the defender, if that was given against us? I'd be furious at the defender and goalkeeper for getting into that position, and the defender for being too slow. I also think church was in a good position and took a controllable touch, so going over was only worth it if he was certain he had been caught.
Although I can't prove it, my guess is that there would be absolutely no evidence to support the 'big clubs win more penalties' theory. Didn't Spurs go nearly an entire year without a penalty? How does that work? Were they only playing the four teams above them?
Although I can't prove it, my guess is that there would be absolutely no evidence to support the 'big clubs win more penalties' theory. Didn't Spurs go nearly an entire year without a penalty? How does that work? Were they only playing the four teams above them?
Palace certainly aren't a big club but they certainly seem to have had their fair share of penalties over the years.
Surely if it's not a penalty then it is a dive, which warrants a free kick and a yellow card.
You can have a "Coming together" ( no jokes please) where neither are at fault.
I don't think you can have a coming together in this case. Yes you can have a coming together if a challenge is a case of shoulders, or just a tangle of arms etc. This was a lot more clear cut than that, and a simple trip, or not a trip. Either Church should have been booked for diving or their player should have been sent off and a pen given.
I was referee for the first time in a 5 a side football tournament recently having played football for 25 years and being a confident lad i thought it would be relatively straight forwards, but wow it was tough.
Since then i have been amazed when watching Match of the Day just how many decisions the refs get right. We all like to moan about the odd bad decision but it really is part and parcel of the game and ultimately the teams at the bottom are there becuase they are the poorest not becuase every ref has it in for them.
I havn't seen this particular incedent but the thought that you bring a ref in front of the cameras to apologise at the end of a game is just rubbish and ridiculous.
Everyone makes mistakes... I simply detest managers like Hughes, Pardew, Poyet and the like who deflect from their own short comings by constantly moaning about refs after each and every game they lose.
Although I can't prove it, my guess is that there would be absolutely no evidence to support the 'big clubs win more penalties' theory. Didn't Spurs go nearly an entire year without a penalty? How does that work? Were they only playing the four teams above them?
Palace certainly aren't a big club but they certainly seem to have had their fair share of penalties over the years.
That's because they had Zaha and Bolashie running at defenders in the box. Most were pens tbf.
Although I can't prove it, my guess is that there would be absolutely no evidence to support the 'big clubs win more penalties' theory. Didn't Spurs go nearly an entire year without a penalty? How does that work? Were they only playing the four teams above them?
Well most times we've played at Old Trafford, Anfield, Highbury/Emirates, Stamford Bridge, White Hart Lane, we've had loads of decent shouts & hardly had a sniff. They get them at the drop of a hat.
Funny how Man U hadn't had a penalty against them at OT for, what was it 1 year, 2 years ?
Although I can't prove it, my guess is that there would be absolutely no evidence to support the 'big clubs win more penalties' theory. Didn't Spurs go nearly an entire year without a penalty? How does that work? Were they only playing the four teams above them?
Palace certainly aren't a big club but they certainly seem to have had their fair share of penalties over the years.
That's because they had Zaha and Bolashie running at defenders in the box. Most were pens tbf.
Ask Paddy Powell, he was the master back in the day - you dribble your way into the box and defenders panic.
Tactically, a player like Stewart should be able to do this.
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It looks a crap decision but doing this wouldn't achieve anything.
that's Churchs job as a forward. He isn't going to let the centre half get to the ball, he put his body in the way.
True but the defender doesn't really trip him either.
Just trying to give a reason why the ref didn't give it. It's by no means clear cut.
So... penalty.
Sometimes they are given (usually if you're a big club) and sometimes not (if you're Charlton).
Church was heading for the corner flag, so he went over. He was never going to score.
I can never get my head around the "he touched me " so it's a penalty.
Yet at a corner you can be wrestled (obviously more than a touch) & apparently that's ok.
Let's be honest if you were awarded a penalty for staying on your feet, Church would have stayed on his feet.
Since then i have been amazed when watching Match of the Day just how many decisions the refs get right. We all like to moan about the odd bad decision but it really is part and parcel of the game and ultimately the teams at the bottom are there becuase they are the poorest not becuase every ref has it in for them.
I havn't seen this particular incedent but the thought that you bring a ref in front of the cameras to apologise at the end of a game is just rubbish and ridiculous.
Everyone makes mistakes... I simply detest managers like Hughes, Pardew, Poyet and the like who deflect from their own short comings by constantly moaning about refs after each and every game they lose.
In that situation the defender can't avoid physical contact.
Deliberate or accidental, the defender has played the man.
Anywhere else on the pitch it would be a direct free kick.
In the box it has to be a penalty kick.
Funny how Man U hadn't had a penalty against them at OT for, what was it 1 year, 2 years ?
Tactically, a player like Stewart should be able to do this.