Annual report for agm, transparency, etc. formality hopefully and no issue that i am aware of. Spectacular achievement by those who have joined and donated. Hopefully we are justifying that faith and delivering, but we are still learning believe me
Comes from squeezing more out of the resources you have. Think of it in terms of cutting costs, maximising the capabilities of your current systems and fully utilising the skills of your personnel. In other words, get rid of what you can and make the rest of the lackeys take up the slack.
(All with the implied goal of putting any resulting profits in your own pocket!)
Cheers Lookie. Why didn't he just say that instead of giving bullshit business talk jargon!!
Because he's a businessman ?
No a club employee
I thought he was the Chief Operating Officer - makes him a businessman in my eyes (his too I would wager).
Chief Operating Officer, Businessman, Club employee. He was still talking David Brent style bullshit
Total donations, memberships. Its there in black and white for all members to read and will be discussed at the Agm at the proper time
Why are you having to discuss this ?
What has been done wrong ?
Nothing - Razil was simply clarifying that as we're a legally incorporated entity we have very strict reporting rules which govern how/what we do with our donations and funds, trust me I know - I had to file the paperwork !
@HenryIrving - if the trust have anything like £8k then I'm outraged, my time is very precious and expensive. I've never been paid a penny for churning out ground breaking articles like arbitrary and hugely biased player gradings. Sort it out @razil.
On a serious note, we're hugely grateful for the support - financial and moral - from our supporter base, without it we would have thrown in the towel before now. However I really believe this is something worth doing and we're part of something much bigger - a supporter base which is becoming more active. Lets remember we all want the same thing.
Lets not confuse things #1 - SB met with razil and I before the meeting (something postponed from a while back) to talk about how the Trust matchday stall outside the North stand is working and other exciting matters...
Lets not confuse things #2 - The Trust has been carrying around £1,500 in cash since the launch - this initially came about through donations from Bromley - £200 (although Henry Wonga Irving is clearly applying a reasonable interest rate) Essex £500, an auction and the first 100 members. Since then the Trust has run a policy of spending what comes in by steadily increasing the print run of its publication, Trust News up to 5,000 in May. Not cheap AND to launch a new product so quickly a policy decision was taken to give it out for free - first to supporter club branches and then a benefactor offered to fund a big print run and SB offered to distribute 4,000 with the matchday programme for the last game of the season - that is the kind of thing that is discussed and hopefully there will be more to come in the second year of the Trust so the turnover is around £8,000 up to now but the cash at bank is far less at around £2000. This enables the Trust to plan ahead and develop more activities without worrying about every penny or whether every t-shirt will be sold - by gaining this experience we get better at what we do - cheaper procurement, better headlines on the web, more views and hopefully bigger activities with the club in the future.
Lets not confuse things #3 I am sure many of these activities by the Supporters Trust and CAFC management team have been done before - promoting football is not exactly new! But when I explained to the kids that some people didn't want the Trust to support the club, they turned round and said "so which club so they want you to support?" What I mean is that the Trust is trying to work with the club to secure the number 1 goal - a sustainable model
Lets not confuse things #4 I was sure someone mentioned advertising for the TVs at the meeting and BK stated that the old ones might have come from the last century! I didn't hear it from BK in a private meeting because he wasn't there! I think it is important that the Trust engage with the club to develop both a relationship and ideas for activities. More importantly how do TVs contribute to revenue? Well if the club improve the matchday experience in this and other areas especially queues and bar/catering products/price then aside from a revenue kick you would expect more occasional fans to come back on a more regular basis... people like Airman and hopefully BK will have a better idea of how that equation works than you or I. All well and good looking at how to get new fans but you have to win back some of the ones who have disappeared by improving on and off the pitch don't you?
Personally I would be interested to hear from anyone who has ideas or criticisms about how to improve matchday and perhaps it is an area which the Trust should move into?
As SE9 addick states we are on a journey with financial and moral support across the fan base - all stands, all ages and all post codes... we are getting closer to 1,000 members and more importantly IMHO we have just hit 4,000 email addresses and twitter connections... so we've sweated the asset, bashed the bishop and taken a journey from 100 stalwarts in Bartrams which I had to book with my own credit card(!) to co-promoting a Back to the Valley dinner with 400+ fans... I exchanged a few words with Airman and Mark Kinsella last time and would hope to repeat that this time.
And so to the second year of the Trust:
Ultimately, until we are told the other pieces of the jigsaw we can only guess. But we could ask questions and write up suggestions for how the club should go forwards. Is that what the Trust should be doing next? So if anyone has ideas how to address this or wants to investigate a particular area then please inbox myself or Razil - it would be especially fascinating to hear from people who were on the inside in the 90s
People are still moaning about the policing at the Millwall game last season?
Jesus ...
The day (you never know) we get a controversial last minute winner at home against the scum and their true colours will show, there'll be a lot more complaints about why they weren't kept in roads closed etc
People are still moaning about the policing at the Millwall game last season?
Jesus ...
The day (you never know) we get a controversial last minute winner at home against the scum and their true colours will show, there'll be a lot more complaints about why they weren't kept in roads closed etc
And let's not forget Palace are coming straight back down so four South London derbies next season
And let's not forget Palace are coming straight back down so four South London derbies next season
Are you already writing off our promotion chances, when we are only 12 pts off a play-off place?
On the other hand, you are at least showing confidence that despite being only one pt above the relegation places there is no way we will be in Div Three next season!
People are still moaning about the policing at the Millwall game last season?
Jesus ...
Not as such. It was just that it was mentioned, that the Trust held discussions with Steve & Ben re future policing of "volatile" matches, in order to improve matters from a Charlton supporter prospective.
Naturally, the Millwall game was then discussed.
What I don't understand is that Steve wouldn't explain why Millwall weren't kept in. He said it wasn't because we were concerned that they might cause damage.
He was also unaware that Millwall fans weren't directed straight onto trains, but were allowed to wander off wherever they pleased.
Why do so many threads have to be hijacked by the trust issues? I thought this was a thread about a Bromley meeting and what was discussed there with the attending guests?
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@HenryIrving - if the trust have anything like £8k then I'm outraged, my time is very precious and expensive. I've never been paid a penny for churning out ground breaking articles like arbitrary and hugely biased player gradings. Sort it out @razil.
On a serious note, we're hugely grateful for the support - financial and moral - from our supporter base, without it we would have thrown in the towel before now. However I really believe this is something worth doing and we're part of something much bigger - a supporter base which is becoming more active. Lets remember we all want the same thing.
Lets not confuse things #2 - The Trust has been carrying around £1,500 in cash since the launch - this initially came about through donations from Bromley - £200 (although Henry Wonga Irving is clearly applying a reasonable interest rate) Essex £500, an auction and the first 100 members. Since then the Trust has run a policy of spending what comes in by steadily increasing the print run of its publication, Trust News up to 5,000 in May. Not cheap AND to launch a new product so quickly a policy decision was taken to give it out for free - first to supporter club branches and then a benefactor offered to fund a big print run and SB offered to distribute 4,000 with the matchday programme for the last game of the season - that is the kind of thing that is discussed and hopefully there will be more to come in the second year of the Trust so the turnover is around £8,000 up to now but the cash at bank is far less at around £2000. This enables the Trust to plan ahead and develop more activities without worrying about every penny or whether every t-shirt will be sold - by gaining this experience we get better at what we do - cheaper procurement, better headlines on the web, more views and hopefully bigger activities with the club in the future.
Lets not confuse things #3 I am sure many of these activities by the Supporters Trust and CAFC management team have been done before - promoting football is not exactly new! But when I explained to the kids that some people didn't want the Trust to support the club, they turned round and said "so which club so they want you to support?" What I mean is that the Trust is trying to work with the club to secure the number 1 goal - a sustainable model
Lets not confuse things #4 I was sure someone mentioned advertising for the TVs at the meeting and BK stated that the old ones might have come from the last century! I didn't hear it from BK in a private meeting because he wasn't there! I think it is important that the Trust engage with the club to develop both a relationship and ideas for activities. More importantly how do TVs contribute to revenue? Well if the club improve the matchday experience in this and other areas especially queues and bar/catering products/price then aside from a revenue kick you would expect more occasional fans to come back on a more regular basis... people like Airman and hopefully BK will have a better idea of how that equation works than you or I. All well and good looking at how to get new fans but you have to win back some of the ones who have disappeared by improving on and off the pitch don't you?
Personally I would be interested to hear from anyone who has ideas or criticisms about how to improve matchday and perhaps it is an area which the Trust should move into?
As SE9 addick states we are on a journey with financial and moral support across the fan base - all stands, all ages and all post codes... we are getting closer to 1,000 members and more importantly IMHO we have just hit 4,000 email addresses and twitter connections... so we've sweated the asset, bashed the bishop and taken a journey from 100 stalwarts in Bartrams which I had to book with my own credit card(!) to co-promoting a Back to the Valley dinner with 400+ fans...
I exchanged a few words with Airman and Mark Kinsella last time and would hope to repeat that this time.
And so to the second year of the Trust:
Ultimately, until we are told the other pieces of the jigsaw we can only guess. But we could ask questions and write up suggestions for how the club should go forwards. Is that what the Trust should be doing next? So if anyone has ideas how to address this or wants to investigate a particular area then please inbox myself or Razil - it would be especially fascinating to hear from people who were on the inside in the 90s
Jesus ...
On the other hand, you are at least showing confidence that despite being only one pt above the relegation places there is no way we will be in Div Three next season!
Naturally, the Millwall game was then discussed.
What I don't understand is that Steve wouldn't explain why Millwall weren't kept in. He said it wasn't because we were concerned that they might cause damage.
He was also unaware that Millwall fans weren't directed straight onto trains, but were allowed to wander off wherever they pleased.