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Hamer good enough?

flynnersflynners
in General Charlton
What do you think everyone?

We would have won last night if wasnt for that mistake. How many points has he cost us? (no seriosuly work out how many points he has cost us)

Speaking to a fellow fan after the match, he did look gutted walking off the pitch after the game and fair play to him but enoughs enough. Recently his kicks against 'wall' were awful and personally he makes me nervous whenever I see that perfect hair cut go for the ball.

So whats everyone else think?
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  • SwisdomSwisdom
    Yes. Good enough. Been done to death.
  • flynnersflynners
    Thats one opinion, hasnt everything been done to death?
  • tangoflashtangoflash
    yeah, get rid. Let's go out and buy Petr Cech or Joe Hart.

    Pound for pound you'll struggle to find a better keeper that we can afford. I'd be interested to hear your choices of possible replacements Flynners.......................
  • flynnersflynners
    Jack Butland went on a free to Barnsley
    Ben Alnwik
    Nick Pope
    Alex Smithies
    Dylan Phillips (development squad goalkeeper)

    Anyone who can catch really
  • Im_Jordans_CousinIm_Jordans_Cousin
    edited October 2013
    Has the potentail to be great. As I said in another thread, other areas need prioritising for strengthening. Cant think of many better 'keepers we've had in recent years.

    Elliot - better? No
    Worner - No
    Randolph - probably, but not used.
    Deano - Yes, although lots more experience upon arrival
    Weaver - Questionable, although experience on his side
    Illic - No - just as much a 'liability', but had cult status

  • flynnersflynners
    Elliot was better
    Carson quality
    Stephen Anderson
  • Im_Jordans_CousinIm_Jordans_Cousin
    Carson - Loan - we were Premiership?
    Anderson, Rarely used - Prem (maybe)?

    My personal opinion is Elliot was no better. I think he got a lot of brownie points for being a fan
  • East_Stand_LoopyEast_Stand_Loopy
    Jack Butland is on loan to Barnsley from Stoke.

    He did NOT go on a free!
  • GreenieGreenie
    No I don't think he's good enough at the moment! I think he needs to fight for his place in the team , that said who else is there at the club and are they any better?
    And do what if urs been done to death!
  • flynnersflynners
    yea true about being a fan but he was scouted and signed by the toon, but pardew must have been big factor.

    My point is Hamer makes me nervous everytime hes near the ball, low kicks, poor punches, good shot stopper but to many basic mistakes he was flatfooted for yesterdays goal and he does make the defence nervous
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  • MeebaumAzanitchMeebaumAzanitch
    Is it Hamer and stand-in goalkeepers at fault or the goalkeeping coach/es?
  • robroyrobroy
    Hamer made a great save first half to prevent a second goal. Can't see that mentioned here ;)
  • tangoflashtangoflash
    Yeah, but are we in a position to buy those like Carson & Anderson? No. You also mentioned Butland on a free to Barnsley? Think you'll find that was a loan, not a free transfer. Yes, maybe we could have got him instead of Alnwick, but what happens when his loan is over & you're left with your 1st choice keeper completely demotivated from being dropped for the last few weeks? Have to be very careful with loans, as they can sometimes do more harm than good in the long run.

    As for Pope, there's a reason he's out on loan at a lower league. Think he has the potential to be good enough for us, but not yet.......................
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    Good enough for what exactly? A mid-table Championship side, yes. If we want promotion? Then no.
  • andynelsonandynelson
    Pope would have stopped that goal. His judgment of crosses is very good. Not saying he should be in the team, because he's probably not mentally ready yet, but when he is, just watch him.
  • MLSMLS
    Unfortunately he cares more about ensuring his boots and gloves match the colour of his top. He needs to spend less time doing his hair and more time learning how to catch a football.

    Not sure why people on here get so defensive about Hamer. You need a keeper to be brave and a bit wrong in the head. Would he square up to Andy Todd? Doubt it.

    I'd give Alnwick a chance I think.
  • stonewallpenaltystonewallpenalty
    He will do for now. My personal opinion is you will never see ben hamer play in a better team than he is in now. Nothing against him just don't think he is all that and don't buy into the he is young excuse.
  • LenGloverLenGlover
    edited October 2013
    He does a decent job most of the time.

    Mistakes by a keeper are inevitably costly and thus stick in the mind but I think Hamer is in credit since he joined us myself and there are other areas of the team and squad to worry about ahead of him.
  • RossRoss
    edited October 2013
    Is this not the 2nd thread on Hamer in 24 hours, and about the hundredth in total?

    Edit: yep! http://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/57369/hamer#latest
  • Athletico CharltonAthletico Charlton
    Oh good. A Hamer thread, just what CL was missing.
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  • ChippycafcChippycafc
    Good another thread is needed this guy is absolute garbage...why is everybody else dropped and not this clown.
  • ChippycafcChippycafc
    robroy said:

    Hamer made a great save first half to prevent a second goal. Can't see that mentioned here ;)

    Bad miss rather than a great save
  • SwisdomSwisdom
    Chippycafc said:

    robroy said:

    Hamer made a great save first half to prevent a second goal. Can't see that mentioned here ;)

    Bad miss rather than a great save
    If we are playing that game then the goal last night was a magnificent free kick rather than a goalkeeping error.
  • Danny AddickDanny Addick
    MLS said:

    Unfortunately he cares more about ensuring his boots and gloves match the colour of his top. He needs to spend less time doing his hair and more time learning how to catch a football.

    Not sure why people on here get so defensive about Hamer. You need a keeper to be brave and a bit wrong in the head. Would he square up to Andy Todd? Doubt it.

    I'd give Alnwick a chance I think.

    This is literally ridiculous
  • ChippycafcChippycafc
    NO goalkeeper should get beaten like that unless hes 4 feet tall...i am just suprised Forest didnt take advantage of calamity ben
  • HartleypeteHartleypete
    IMHO the bloke has no bottle & as a goalkeeper you are not going to be successful unless you show some balls & take command of your area.
  • daveaddickdaveaddick
    Not my favourite player for sure he seems to full of himself and at times becomes childish. I suppose he is an OK shot stopper but doesn't command his area and to me there are obvious issues problems between him and the defence. Can we get anyone better? Well when Sheick Moneybags turns up a new goalie should be first in the shopping trolley.
  • JonnyKJonnyK
    Needs continued quality coaching to overcome his lack of confidence when dealing with long shots on his goal.
  • MLSMLS
    Danny Addick said:

    MLS said:

    Unfortunately he cares more about ensuring his boots and gloves match the colour of his top. He needs to spend less time doing his hair and more time learning how to catch a football.

    Not sure why people on here get so defensive about Hamer. You need a keeper to be brave and a bit wrong in the head. Would he square up to Andy Todd? Doubt it.

    I'd give Alnwick a chance I think.

    This is literally ridiculous
    Why is it ridiculous?
  • MLSMLS
    Danny Addick said:

    MLS said:

    Unfortunately he cares more about ensuring his boots and gloves match the colour of his top. He needs to spend less time doing his hair and more time learning how to catch a football.

    Not sure why people on here get so defensive about Hamer. You need a keeper to be brave and a bit wrong in the head. Would he square up to Andy Todd? Doubt it.

    I'd give Alnwick a chance I think.

    This is literally ridiculous
    Why is it ridiculous?
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