>>class="Quote" rel="Hornchurch">I guess they assume that if you are a dedicated enough fan to sweep up bird shit, you >>will buy a ticket, anyway.
>>So, giving them away would cost the club the money that you would have spent
But then if you had that mindset and bought one anyway, (or were a season ticket holder, for example), you could then give the ticket to a mate who's never been - which would maybe get them interested. There are going to be empty seats whatever..
My nephew has been there this week with the volunteer painters. They've been given lunch and a pint each day and he certainly seems to be enjoying himself. He was up on scaffolding the other day as he was the only one to have the required site certificate to do so.
No promise of a ticket, but he's looking for work and a bit of volunteering looks good on the CV.
As I recall previous emails didnt specify that you would deffo get free tickets for volunteering. But yeah thats not the point, I like helping the club I support out. Did the team that helped tidy up the Valley before the first game back in 1992 did it to get a reward?
Yeah I think I worded my first post badly, to be fair! Of course anyone who goes and does that does it for the love of the club, ticket or no ticket. I just thought a ticket is a good positive gesture, condidering there'll be loads of spare seats.
What annoys me is all the money in the game yet you are supposed to volunteer to clean pigeon shit off of chairs. How many from the directors lounge making themselves available?
When I came up with this a few years ago the idea was that people would want to do it for love of the club, but the club would show its thanks with a ticket or a meal in Legends. However due to the scale of the job and reducing numbers, a situation evolved where a few people were doing, say, five days' work and getting five rewards.
There was a bit of discussion internally last year as to whether that was right, even though the cost to the club was no different from a larger number of people over fewer days. It wasn't quite the original intention.
As people have said, in terms of tickets some if it is substitution - people earning tickets for which they would otherwise have paid - and while that's less true of meals in Legends, they still have a real cost and potentially an opportunity cost.
The cost of jet washing the seats isn't astronomical, although I'm sure the volunteers do a better job. And actually there is great value in having supporters involved. But obviously it reduces the value of the exercise if the cost of the rewards is the same as the jet wash - which successive boards simply won't pay for.
Hopefully the volunteer spirit will outweigh what if true is certainly a cost-cutting move by the management, whatever the merits of the argument. Otherwise take your own cleaning materials to the first match!
I'll buy them a couple of tickets if someone gets up on the roof of the north and plugs the hole above my seat. Hacked off getting soaked every time we have rain now. Did email the club last season, but got no response.
I'll buy them a couple of tickets if someone gets up on the roof of the north and plugs the hole above my seat. Hacked off getting soaked every time we have rain now. Did email the club last season, but got no response.
I'll buy them a couple of tickets if someone gets up on the roof of the north and plugs the hole above my seat. Hacked off getting soaked every time we have rain now. Did email the club last season, but got no response.
I'll buy them a couple of tickets if someone gets up on the roof of the north and plugs the hole above my seat. Hacked off getting soaked every time we have rain now. Did email the club last season, but got no response.
Have you considered moving your seat ?
There's a good few of us & we'd all want to move. Absolutely fine when it's dry, great view, but it would be nice to think they'd do something about it once told. Or even acknowledge that there's a problem.
I'll buy them a couple of tickets if someone gets up on the roof of the north and plugs the hole above my seat. Hacked off getting soaked every time we have rain now. Did email the club last season, but got no response.
Have you considered moving your seat ?
There's a good few of us & we'd all want to move. Absolutely fine when it's dry, great view, but it would be nice to think they'd do something about it once told. Or even acknowledge that there's a problem.
the reason we do things like seat cleaning and a bit of painting is because we all have one thing in common we love charlton.last year i won the day out with the directors to huddersfield had a great day out.through a contact i made there.i asked to pull a few strings for me.has i travelled down from herefordshire to the olly murrs concert run buy the trust.i asked if the next day i could come down the training ground to have a look round as i stayed in london.well when i got there i was so shocked at the state of the place.it was not what i expected i thought it would be like a 5* hotel.how wrong i was.it needed a big make over so i offered to do some painting.so the follwing week i gave up my weekend travelled to sparrow lane (i even bought the paint myself ) and painted the press room out in charlton colours for charlton.i did not do this for tickets or a shirt.i done this for free as its my club something am well proud off.now every time scp does his press confrence i smile and think i painted that.
the reason we do things like seat cleaning and a bit of painting is because we all have one thing in common we love charlton.last year i won the day out with the directors to huddersfield had a great day out.through a contact i made there.i asked to pull a few strings for me.has i travelled down from herefordshire to the olly murrs concert run buy the trust.i asked if the next day i could come down the training ground to have a look round as i stayed in london.well when i got there i was so shocked at the state of the place.it was not what i expected i thought it would be like a 5* hotel.how wrong i was.it needed a big make over so i offered to do some painting.so the follwing week i gave up my weekend travelled to sparrow lane (i even bought the paint myself ) and painted the press room out in charlton colours for charlton.i did not do this for tickets or a shirt.i done this for free as its my club something am well proud off.now every time scp does his press confrence i smile and think i painted that.
the reason we do things like seat cleaning and a bit of painting is because we all have one thing in common we love charlton.last year i won the day out with the directors to huddersfield had a great day out.through a contact i made there.i asked to pull a few strings for me.has i travelled down from herefordshire to the olly murrs concert run buy the trust.i asked if the next day i could come down the training ground to have a look round as i stayed in london.well when i got there i was so shocked at the state of the place.it was not what i expected i thought it would be like a 5* hotel.how wrong i was.it needed a big make over so i offered to do some painting.so the follwing week i gave up my weekend travelled to sparrow lane (i even bought the paint myself ) and painted the press room out in charlton colours for charlton.i did not do this for tickets or a shirt.i done this for free as its my club something am well proud off.now every time scp does his press confrence i smile and think i painted that.
Just as an update, I mentioned my nephew had done several days when painting was needed. A really nice thank you on the club website the other day, naming all the volunteers who had taken part and this week he received a thank you letter and two tickets for Oxford and a further 2 for Boro.
He hadn't expected anything other than being able to help out and add voluntary work to his CV. A nice touch from the club and he's really delighted too.
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what was the lunch like?
i also got the lunch bit wrong because it was clearly not lunch time when this was posted.
Just can't understand why you'd not give a free ticket for help unless the first game was going to sell out in home areas!
So, giving them away would cost the club the money that you would have spent
We all have 5 yr season tkts so wouldn't use a freebie ourselves.
Not the point though...no-one is forcing anyone to do the job. As suzi said, we do it for love of our Club ( and it's a good way to exercise ! )
>>So, giving them away would cost the club the money that you would have spent
But then if you had that mindset and bought one anyway, (or were a season ticket holder, for example), you could then give the ticket to a mate who's never been - which would maybe get them interested. There are going to be empty seats whatever..
No promise of a ticket, but he's looking for work and a bit of volunteering looks good on the CV.
How many from the directors lounge making themselves available?
There was a bit of discussion internally last year as to whether that was right, even though the cost to the club was no different from a larger number of people over fewer days. It wasn't quite the original intention.
As people have said, in terms of tickets some if it is substitution - people earning tickets for which they would otherwise have paid - and while that's less true of meals in Legends, they still have a real cost and potentially an opportunity cost.
The cost of jet washing the seats isn't astronomical, although I'm sure the volunteers do a better job. And actually there is great value in having supporters involved. But obviously it reduces the value of the exercise if the cost of the rewards is the same as the jet wash - which successive boards simply won't pay for.
Hopefully the volunteer spirit will outweigh what if true is certainly a cost-cutting move by the management, whatever the merits of the argument. Otherwise take your own cleaning materials to the first match!
Its just not been included in the email or website story.
He hadn't expected anything other than being able to help out and add voluntary work to his CV. A nice touch from the club and he's really delighted too.