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  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844

    In all seriousness, this should be our national anthem:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvouc8Qs_MI

    British poem written to British music, and everytime it is a beautiful but also an inspiring piece of music.

    I love it, It's English, it's powerful, and it sends a true message that is quite relevant in todays violent society.

    The trouble I see with changing the National Anthem is getting the diversity of people in England to agree to the one Anthem.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    edited May 2013
    I'm a Jerusalem type me, and nothing wrong with a 2 minute long anthem.

    Could could go for the last two verses if you wanted a short version
  • sralan
    sralan Posts: 2,031
    Do we need words?
    How about some stirring music like the themes from films like;
    The Battle of Britain
    A Bridge too Far
    The Dambusters

    Notice there is a "theme" happening here.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,824
    Like GSTQ, find it very patriotic and moving personally.

    Never been a fan of Jerusalem.

    Personally i would much prefer Land of Hope and Glory, and very surprised no one else has mentioned this yet.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    RZA said:

    Jerusalem is better.

    Although Jerusalem is considered England's unofficial national anthem, the lyrics refer to religion quite a lot, and it is not reflective of today's society. We'd need to keep religion/ politics out of any national anthem.

  • BlackForestReds
    BlackForestReds Posts: 17,952
    PL54 said:

    People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?

    My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.

  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    Croydon said:

    Some of those proms videos are magical

    I've been on You tube looking at the Prom video's. Really heart stirring stuff.

    Jesus I'm really home sick now!!
  • BDL
    BDL Posts: 5,999
    Billy Connolly had it right.......

    Altogether now.... ( to the theme of the Archers )

    Rum tee tum tee rum tee tum rum tee tum tee tum tumm.....
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844

    PL54 said:

    People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?

    My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.

    It was British. Back in the days "for King and country". That's not the case anymore.

    My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.

    Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.

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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    ozaddick said:

    Croydon said:

    Some of those proms videos are magical

    I've been on You tube looking at the Prom video's. Really heart stirring stuff.

    Jesus I'm really home sick now!!
    Just console yourself with the fact that the Britain in those videos doesn't really exist (unless we're hosting the Olympics !).
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    ozaddick said:

    PL54 said:

    People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?

    My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.

    It was British. Back in the days "for King and country". That's not the case anymore.

    My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.

    Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.

    Your history isn't great I agree : - )

    Waves and waves and waves of immigration before WWII, WWI, the Boer War, the Crimean War..........the Battle of Agincourt, the battle of Hastings, the Roman invasion.
  • KiwiG
    KiwiG Posts: 7
    I have to say I think the anthem is absolutely terrible, and it's not even English. I'm from New Zealand originally and "God Save The Queen" was our anthem when I was growing up. Nowadays they've got an equally terrible anthem which is at least specific to New Zealand, and sounds slightly less awful when sung in Maori.

    I dread the times in England games when the supporters roll out that awful dirge and I temporarily lose the will to live.

    It's probably why I fanatically avoid the pre-game rituals whenever I watch England or New Zealand play any sport. I don't mind missing the first couple of minutes, just to be on the safe side...
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Our national anthem is a good match for team.....unfortunately!
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167

    ozaddick said:

    PL54 said:

    People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?

    My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.

    It was British. Back in the days "for King and country". That's not the case anymore.

    My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.

    Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.

    Your history isn't great I agree : - )

    Waves and waves and waves of immigration before WWII, WWI, the Boer War, the Crimean War..........the Battle of Agincourt, the battle of Hastings, the Roman invasion.
    Thanks.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    BDL said:

    Billy Connolly had it right.......

    Altogether now.... ( to the theme of the Archers )

    Rum tee tum tee rum tee tum rum tee tum tee tum tumm.....

    Someone on the radio the other day suggested Sham 69's Hurry Up Harry.
  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844

    ozaddick said:

    PL54 said:

    People's problem is that the National Anthem is too British - why replace it with another non-English song ?

    My problem with it is that it isn't British at all - it celebrates/promotes one individual at the expense of the essence of everything that is British and even Britishness itself. Even worse it invokes god as her protector.

    It was British. Back in the days "for King and country". That's not the case anymore.

    My History isn't the greatest but that all changed with Immigration post WW2. The first major Influx of Immigration was from Poland after the war, in 1948 over 150,000 were allowed to settle in the UK. The government then offered the West Indians to settle on mass, with promises of employment.

    Patriotism is a completely different concept nowadays.

    Your history isn't great I agree : - )

    Waves and waves and waves of immigration before WWII, WWI, the Boer War, the Crimean War..........the Battle of Agincourt, the battle of Hastings, the Roman invasion.
    Told you Henry! ;)


  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,844
    se9addick said:

    ozaddick said:

    Croydon said:

    Some of those proms videos are magical

    I've been on You tube looking at the Prom video's. Really heart stirring stuff.

    Jesus I'm really home sick now!!
    Just console yourself with the fact that the Britain in those videos doesn't really exist (unless we're hosting the Olympics !).
    Well aware of that mate, I Grew up in the Cray! ;)
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Bump.
    Personally dont see why we should sing about one of the descendants of the biggest thugs of 400 years ago.
    Should have an anthem based on The People and/or The Land - like France and virtually every other country.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Our national anthem is rubbish, but is a good match for the team!
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  • All_Thaid_Up
    All_Thaid_Up Posts: 2,293

    Our national anthem is rubbish, but is a good match for the team!

    At least you are consistent you said exactly the same just over a year ago on this thread!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    It is more to do with the national team being consistent I fear!
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    Thats why we played so rubbish!, we want to make sure its only forced upon everyone in Brazil just one more time.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,782
    We've been playing the wrong version.........................
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtUH2YSFlVU
  • Fiiiiiish
    Fiiiiiish Posts: 1,671
    Maybe it just needs some backing dancers in using moves which involve flash dance mixed with some MC Hammer shit, ala David Brent.
  • falconwood_1
    falconwood_1 Posts: 7,368
    Ask Robert Elms, am sure he'll have an opinion.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Dirge.
  • Jayajosh
    Jayajosh Posts: 2,877
    It should be Land of Hope and Glory minus the glory.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    I don't mind GSTQ at all but I wish we'd do all five verses at sporting events - if only to see Rooney struggling to remember the words and to wind up some of the other nations that have over-long anthems.
    I like it that as a country we are so self-assured that we don't have an official national anthem nor bother to put the name of our country on our postage stamps.
    It, too, amuses me that the Yanks just borrowed the tune and added their own lyrics for their national anthem My Country, 'Tis Of Thee which was only replaced by The Star-Spangled Banner in 1931. It probably goes without saying that that tune, too, was borrowed from elsewhere and was written by a Brit.
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    glad this has been bumped, our national anthem, like our team, shite.