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Pritchards place in the team

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  • edited February 2013
    Shouldn't underestimate how important energy and work rate is. Same with Wagstaff. It's not as if we have quality alternatives. I've never been convinced Green would step up and it was clearly never going to happen alongside 2/3 of Hollands, Jackson and Stephens.

    As said he's decent technically, hardly a Semedo or Amdy Faye. Gets assists by getting in good positions and picking the right pass or putting in a decent cross. Keeps possession and has a reasonable touch.

    Finishing, running with the ball and his size are probably his main weaknesses - but they aren't key for his role. We need more creativity and goals elsewhere in the midfield IMO, rather than a replacement for Pritchard.
  • Oggy Red said:

    Shouldve done better with that volley on Sat having just watched the highlights.

    But then you could also say that about clear cut chances missed by Jackson, Cort and Devite.

    Yes but this thread isn't about Jackson, Cort or Dervite!
  • Absolutely does Pritchard need to play in this team. Do any of you remember what happened when we dropped him? He's what might be termed the heartbeat of the side. We're not a short-passing, constantly-recycling Premiership side, we're a hard-battling Championship outfit with some skill but a greater need for intelligent, well-thought-out effort. Which is what Pritchard has, more than pretty much everyone else in the league. His technical 'deficiencies' (and I'd argue he's got a decent touch) - live with 'em, they don't exactly stop us from being Barcelona.
  • edited February 2013
    Kermy said:

    Thing is Jackson scores consistently so that miss is a one off. Pritchard misses most chances. Cort has scored more from centre half.

    By saying that, you're not seeming to understand Pritchard's game?

    It's because he arrives late in the box at full speed from deep positions, that causes him to lose balance and composure in front of goal.

    If you play or have played yourself, you'll understand what I mean.

  • Oggy Red said:

    Shouldve done better with that volley on Sat having just watched the highlights.

    But then you could also say that about clear cut chances missed by Jackson, Cort and Devite.

    Yes but this thread isn't about Jackson, Cort or Dervite!
    But it has to be put into context.
  • Scoham said:

    Shouldn't underestimate how important energy and work rate is. Same with Wagstaff. It's not as if we have quality alternatives. I've never been convinced Green would step up and it was clearly never going to happen alongside 2/3 of Hollands, Jackson and Stephens.

    As said he's decent technically, hardly a Semedo or Amdy Faye. Gets assists by getting in good positions and picking the right pass or putting in a decent cross. Keeps possession and has a reasonable touch.

    Finishing, running with the ball and his size are probably his main weaknesses - but they aren't key for his role. We need more creativity and goals elsewhere in the midfield IMO, rather than a replacement for Pritchard.

    This.
  • I put it to you all - what do you want out of Charlton? Do you want a team of expensive, well-drilled players recycling every couple of years and competing for Premiership survival? Or do you want a team of affordable, well-drilled players who stick around a little longer, put in as much effort as possible, try and play the right passes and make the right runs, sometimes even do that, and play in a relatively 'fair' league where success and failure are roughly equal in probability, both at micro and macro levels? What are Pritchard's perceived 'deficiencies' relative to? Scott Parker ain't coming back, folks (well, maybe when he's 35 but y'know what I mean) - to say Pritchard is 'deficient' is completely missing the point. He's incredibly good at what he's there for - he is what he is - an Energiser bunny with a good football brain and tons of spirit. He evokes the sort of spirit I like to see in a team I support, and I think that if he comes off worse in a match, it's due to the seemingly incomprehensible reason (for some of you) that an opposition midfielder or two has played better than him. There are 24 clubs in this league and they're ALL trying to outplay each other. Some days, it won't happen, and that's fine so long as the requisite effort and intelligence has been shown. Pritchard's got a pretty good ratio, I'd say.
  • Oggy Red said:

    Kermy said:

    Thing is Jackson scores consistently so that miss is a one off. Pritchard misses most chances. Cort has scored more from centre half.

    By saying that, you're not seeming to understand Pritchard's game?

    It's because he arrives late in the box at full speed from deep positions, that causes him to lose balance and composure in front of goal.

    If you play or have played yourself, you'll understand what I mean.

    This is true, but his goal scoring record is very good historically. Obviously, there has been an increase in class, but I have a feeling he can improve further in this area. Powell believes this too from interviews I have heard. We need to play him for him to work it out, we shouldn't forget, he is very inexperienced at this level. We'll end up having one of the best players in the division if we perservere.
  • edited February 2013
    7 assists so far this season for BP , puts him 11th on the assists scoreboard in the Championship (as many as Bolasie and more than Zaha) , goalscorers wise you have to go down to 25th (Johnnie Jackson) before you get to a Charlton goalscorer featuring.

    http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/DivisionalAssists/0,,10794~20127,00.html
  • POTY so far for me, between him and Hamer.

    Don't remember a player that covers as much ground.
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  • Great cross in first half too.
  • 7 assists so far this season for BP , puts him 11th on the assists scoreboard in the Championship (as many as Bolasie and more than Zaha) , goalscorers wise you have to go down to 25th (Johnnie Jackson) before you get to a Charlton goalscorer featuring.

    http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/DivisionalAssists/0,,10794~20127,00.html

    Which I think demonstrates that Pritchard is not the problem in this side!

  • I think the main problem with pritchard not in his abillity wise, but his background (Hayes and Yeading) suggests that he is a poor player and shouldn't have a place in the Charlton team. (Which is not the case)
    If pritchard came from a team such as Blackburn or a well respected team, then many more people would see him as a club hero IMO
  • Yes in a 4 5 1 formation.

    Exactly what I think. There have been a lot of knee jerk opinions on the lad over the last couple of months, some even suggesting he's premier class.
    He's a tidy player with a sound work ethic but has short comings too. Like Semedo before him, some big him up just because they like him and his rise to fame story.
    I hope he continues to contribute in our midfield five.
  • works hard, enthusiastic, tries but lacks the required quality

    yep ...i oh so really want the guy to do well ,because he runs his heart out but "covering every blade of grass" isnt exactly what you need all the time ....lacks awareness and a good first touch ...havent forgotten that miss against Derby either

    dont think he had a good game v palace

  • Probably our most consistent midfielder this season so no reason to drop him.
  • Stone said:

    Yes in a 4 5 1 formation.

    Exactly what I think. There have been a lot of knee jerk opinions on the lad over the last couple of months, some even suggesting he's premier class.
    He's a tidy player with a sound work ethic but has short comings too. Like Semedo before him, some big him up just because they like him and his rise to fame story.
    I hope he continues to contribute in our midfield five.
    I think the comments were that he has the potential to become Premiership class- if he improves his weaker areas. Which I think is more than possible.
  • edited February 2013

    I think the main problem with pritchard not in his abillity wise, but his background (Hayes and Yeading) suggests that he is a poor player and shouldn't have a place in the Charlton team. (Which is not the case)

    A year or so back somebody posted a video clip of Pritch scoring for Hayes & Yeading from outside the area.
    He appeared to be playing a more relaxed attacking CM role; and secondly, he had so much more time on the ball to pick his spot.

    Remember, it was only 2 years ago that he was playing in the Conference.

    Just measure the progress he has made at Charlton - from a wild card fringe player, to automatic starter.
    There are very good reasons for that.








  • He's still a junior pro - this is only his second season as a full time pro and he has a lot of catching up to do - but he works hard and is a valuable member of the team.

    That said there are occasions when the game passes him by.
  • Oggy Red said:

    Pritchard is the player that knits the team together - and provides the platform for more creative players to perform.
    We've seen the difference in the team when he's not playing.


    Unlike players like Jackson who drifts into the box unmarked, Pritchard tends to arrive late with a lungbursting run from a deep position - at full stretch it can be difficult to keep balance and composure.



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  • Rizzo said:

    Green has had any number of chances to establish himself, including several long runs in the team. Pritchard has the highest workrate in the squad and I would say he is essential to enable Jackson and Stephens to do their thing. According to SCP he also has a real eye for goal in training but unfortunately we have rarely seen this in matches.

    i wouldn't say green has, plays four or five games we lose then he is used as a scapegoat. "he never covers solly" "his lazy"....as far as pritchard goes he does ok works hard, he has set up a few goals recently but when it comes to scoring or attempting to score he has no ability.

  • Rizzo said:

    Green has had any number of chances to establish himself, including several long runs in the team. Pritchard has the highest workrate in the squad and I would say he is essential to enable Jackson and Stephens to do their thing. According to SCP he also has a real eye for goal in training but unfortunately we have rarely seen this in matches.

    i wouldn't say green has, plays four or five games we lose then he is used as a scapegoat. "he never covers solly" "his lazy"....as far as pritchard goes he does ok works hard, he has set up a few goals recently but when it comes to scoring or attempting to score he has no ability.

    Green this season. one goal, one assist

    Pritchard six assists one goal

    Says it all really. I don't think he's lazy. He's just so slow he can't get back and doesn't think he needs to. When he tackles he more than often is on the wrong side and gives away a free kick.

    Green was dropped last season as he's wasn't a team player and this season he's been given seven starts and not produced.

    There is a reason CP is willing to let him go out on loan to League 1 and it's not because he doesn't like Green's haircut.



  • Let's try Fuller in midfield then. He might score a few...
  • I'm not a massive fan of Pritchard. However, given the other "options" or rather lack of, then yes he warrants a place.
  • Pritchard must be a very annoying opponent. Chasing, tackling, very energetic, most teams need one. Wilson is a better footballer and could also play that role. Powell just cannot decide on what is his best midfield, or attack for that matter. Until he does decide, Pritchard should keep the job despite getting nosebleeds anywhere near the opposition goal.
  • Bundle of energy and commitment. Was very much a doubter but his performances have made me rethink. If I'm honest I still think he is punching above his weight.
  • Wasn't at Palace, but I've said before I think there's a lot more to Pritchard's game than the stuff on the ball. I thought he should have been subbed against Wednesday because they were ridiculously physical, but overall he runs, analyses and looks at what is going on. Could he be better? Yes. Will he be? I reckon he will, I think he's in a good place with CP as manager, and the gaffer clearly sees something in him, as do his team mates, as was shown by the celebration when he finally did score.
    As someone above said, he's the sort of player I like to see wear our shirt.
  • Rizzo said:

    Green has had any number of chances to establish himself, including several long runs in the team. Pritchard has the highest workrate in the squad and I would say he is essential to enable Jackson and Stephens to do their thing. According to SCP he also has a real eye for goal in training but unfortunately we have rarely seen this in matches.

    Green certainly hasn't had a long run in the team this season.
  • Rizzo said:

    Green has had any number of chances to establish himself, including several long runs in the team. Pritchard has the highest workrate in the squad and I would say he is essential to enable Jackson and Stephens to do their thing. According to SCP he also has a real eye for goal in training but unfortunately we have rarely seen this in matches.

    i wouldn't say green has, plays four or five games we lose then he is used as a scapegoat. "he never covers solly" "his lazy"....as far as pritchard goes he does ok works hard, he has set up a few goals recently but when it comes to scoring or attempting to score he has no ability.

    Maybe not this season but he was in the team and underperforming for too long last season. He only got dropped because of that virus.

    As for Pritchard I think he is technically better than he gets credit for. He will always suffer from the non league tag he has. Pritchard also will get more games than players like Green because he is more versatile. Green is a one trick pony.
  • edited February 2013

    Rizzo said:

    Green has had any number of chances to establish himself, including several long runs in the team. Pritchard has the highest workrate in the squad and I would say he is essential to enable Jackson and Stephens to do their thing. According to SCP he also has a real eye for goal in training but unfortunately we have rarely seen this in matches.

    i wouldn't say green has, plays four or five games we lose then he is used as a scapegoat. "he never covers solly" "his lazy"....as far as pritchard goes he does ok works hard, he has set up a few goals recently but when it comes to scoring or attempting to score he has no ability.

    Maybe not this season but Green was in the team and underperforming for too long last season. He only got dropped because of that virus.

    As for Pritchard I think he is technically better than he gets credit for. He will always suffer from the non league tag he has. Pritchard also will get more games than players like Green because he is more versatile. Green is a one trick pony.
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