The Lions - named after the vicious circus animals which made up the majority of the support in the early years. The Irons - docks, rent boys, say no more. The Gunners - little known fact but the first Arsenal team was made up entirely of professional rear-gunners.
Have to take you to task over the last stat: Arsenal Est 1886, first rear guns on an aeroplane was the Handley Page V/1500 bomber circa 1918. Your'e supposed to be an anorak...please check facts more carefully in future
When it comes down to it there is no difference between the background of the fans that support either club, it's just that we seem to be better at attracting more of them, possibly because our ground is better and more accessible but more likely because we have a more credible image to put out to our catchment areas
Broadly speaking, we are similar sized clubs with a similar history since WW2, and attract similar fans from different but similar outer London boroughs. In terms of DNA matching we are at the 99% mark, think how this compares to clubs like Arsenal, Cardiff or Hartlepool.
Where we differ is around the personalities that are behind the club. Near death experiences build your character and shape your future, in our case we learnt 'strength through adversity' from near extinction but in their case they escaped their first administration by the sleeziest of methods, screwing local businesses and ruining one entreprenur with not-quite-deep-enough-pockets only to replace him with another. This is the club of Malcolm Allison, Ron Noades, Terry Venables, Simon Jordan. Heroes to Palace fans but arseholes to everyone else. Although, to be fair, their current regime seem decent by comparison.
Mattaddick comes on and posts about how much he hates Crystal Palace. I thought everyone on here did? There are user names like PalaceHater and Ihatepalace etc. Then everyone seems to have a go at him. Crystal Palace feature in just about everyone's Top Ten Teams You Hate in a recent thread, more often than not in the top two. Can someone explain what Matt did wrong?
Mattaddick comes on and posts about how much he hates Crystal Palace. I thought everyone on here did? There are user names like PalaceHater and Ihatepalace etc. Then everyone seems to have a go at him. Crystal Palace feature in just about everyone's Top Ten Teams You Hate in a recent thread, more often than not in the top two. Can someone explain what Matt did wrong?
I think his Palace bashing could've been so very easily written about Charlton fans, hence the reaction, it touched a nerve.
The middle class insult is odd, what's wrong with doing well? A nigel even claimed that they're working class on the Palarse game thread, they play in Surrey FFS and have a rivalry (mmm) with a team in Sussex. Very strange.
Mattaddick comes on and posts about how much he hates Crystal Palace. I thought everyone on here did? There are user names like PalaceHater and Ihatepalace etc. Then everyone seems to have a go at him. Crystal Palace feature in just about everyone's Top Ten Teams You Hate in a recent thread, more often than not in the top two. Can someone explain what Matt did wrong?
I think his Palace bashing could've been so very easily written about Charlton fans, hence the reaction, it touched a nerve.
The middle class insult is odd, what's wrong with doing well? A nigel even claimed that they're working class on the Palarse game thread, they play in Surrey FFS and have a rivalry (mmm) with a team in Sussex. Very strange.
I escaped the middle class argument, as I sit in no mans land in the NE corner. But I've had it on this one....34 years in the Civil Service. I'm sending my season tickets back in the morning. Those years growing up on an Inner London estate in Brockley was my joker, but I'll have to live with the shame of being a DPS.
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Where we differ is around the personalities that are behind the club. Near death experiences build your character and shape your future, in our case we learnt 'strength through adversity' from near extinction but in their case they escaped their first administration by the sleeziest of methods, screwing local businesses and ruining one entreprenur with not-quite-deep-enough-pockets only to replace him with another. This is the club of Malcolm Allison, Ron Noades, Terry Venables, Simon Jordan. Heroes to Palace fans but arseholes to everyone else. Although, to be fair, their current regime seem decent by comparison.
Mattaddick comes on and posts about how much he hates Crystal Palace. I thought everyone on here did? There are user names like PalaceHater and Ihatepalace etc. Then everyone seems to have a go at him. Crystal Palace feature in just about everyone's Top Ten Teams You Hate in a recent thread, more often than not in the top two.
Can someone explain what Matt did wrong?
west standmiddle class fansOur stock brokers make more money than yours.