Apology necessary but not accepted. You're an idiot and you know sod all about football. Please don't post on here again.
Can we have the banner back please?
So you any to ban me for having a different view to you on a football forum? Jez really?
I'm sorry mate but your view is stupid. We are newly promoted. You have suggested that the likes of Kermogant, Stephens and Jackson aren't championship quality. Don't necessarily disagree with that - but the point is there is nothing Powell can do about that! He has not been given any money and not therefore had any opportunity to change the squad. He has done as well as could reasonably be expected with loan emergency signings like Hulse and Seabourne which he's been forced into. We have a decent team spirit and that is largely down to him. He was the manager of the year in league one last season and will clearly go on to be a very decent manager.
We were 7 (?) games unbeaten until a week ago. With the squad we have, we are going to lose some games. Just get behind the bloke and the players.
Surprised you're on here scabby? Usually over at ITTV aren't you
Eh? So that's where you have been then? Look it's just my opinion, I didn't think he was the right man when he was appointed but thankfully he proved me wrong, but the championship I feel is a level to far for him. I take the point about players he has to work with because I believe players like Kermogant, Stephens and Jackson etc are just not good enough for the championship. Time will tell and if I'm wrong resurrect this thread and then call me a twat!
I personally think stephens is one of our best players at the moment
The fact is that apart from the home matches against Leicester and Cardiff, games at the Valley this season have been dire. We haven't won a home game on a Saturday this season. We have now lost the last three league matches, and all of them to teams who were below us in the league table.
The teams that were below us in the league are now all starting to win. If things don't start to improve we are going to find ourself in the relegation places.
Powell picks the teams, and the team plays to his tactics. Therefore like it or not the buck rests with the manager.
If things don't improve quickly this trickle of Powell out feeling will grow, and I am not sure that he board have the same warm feeling to Chris Powell that the fans have..
Think scabby is wrong but please let's not let this thread just degenerate into telling him he's a twat, troll or WUM. Tell him why he's wrong.
I think Scabby is wrong, but you can't disputse SCP has brought in some real dross in the way of loans. Ultimately the manager has to bear the responsibility for team and tactical failings.
There is a reason players are available for loan and if, for example, every left back on your books is injured you have to take what you can get.
Powell picks the teams, and the team plays to his tactics. Therefore like it or not the buck rests with the manager.
Not sure this point holds when the manager didn't get the backing he needed in the summer. We're stuck with a League One midfield and that's no fault of his IMO.
Need a change of manager, just don't think Powell has what it takes to be a championship manager, we have been lucky this season apart from a few away games, fed up the football is shit.
I agree. It worked when we sacked Powell when he gave us our worst ever finish and then we smashed records the next season... Oh wait.
Powell needs to get his own championship team together, he didn't really get the chance to do that before. I also think sacking him will doom us to many more years of league one and championship football.
It's time in jan to back Chris Powell,not silly amounts blown,but proper building for a go at promotion in the near future, then try and climb higher again.
I agree. It worked when we sacked Powell when he gave us our worst ever finish and then we smashed records the next season... Oh wait.
Powell needs to get his own championship team together, he didn't really get the chance to do that before. I also think sacking him will doom us to many more years of league one and championship football.
To be fair he has had all summer to get a championship team .
I agree. It worked when we sacked Powell when he gave us our worst ever finish and then we smashed records the next season... Oh wait.
Powell needs to get his own championship team together, he didn't really get the chance to do that before. I also think sacking him will doom us to many more years of league one and championship football.
To be fair he has had all summer to get a championship team .
Did he? Reported cash flow problems and only one paid transfer in begs to differ
I agree. It worked when we sacked Powell when he gave us our worst ever finish and then we smashed records the next season... Oh wait.
Powell needs to get his own championship team together, he didn't really get the chance to do that before. I also think sacking him will doom us to many more years of league one and championship football.
To be fair he has had all summer to get a championship team .
Plenty of time...but no money and not a clue who was going out the door.
I agree. It worked when we sacked Powell when he gave us our worst ever finish and then we smashed records the next season... Oh wait.
Powell needs to get his own championship team together, he didn't really get the chance to do that before. I also think sacking him will doom us to many more years of league one and championship football.
To be fair he has had all summer to get a championship team .
Did he? Reported cash flow problems and only one paid transfer in begs to differ
I agree. It worked when we sacked Powell when he gave us our worst ever finish and then we smashed records the next season... Oh wait.
Powell needs to get his own championship team together, he didn't really get the chance to do that before. I also think sacking him will doom us to many more years of league one and championship football.
To be fair he has had all summer to get a championship team .
Plenty of time...but no money and not a clue who was going out the door.
CP should be our manager as he was the best man to bring us up last year, and if do get relegated, he will be the best man to bring us up again. This is a five year + project of building up our club again and changing your manager and back room staff after a bad run is just the crass stupidity that got us into that shit league in the first place.
We do not want to be wasting any money we have on the manager merry go round. We have been unlucky with injuries this year, but our back five are excelent and we have enough up front. On the right we need better cover that Green for Wilson and urgently need a decent left winger (Wordsworth?). Remember, we are still ahead of Slaters original plan.
It is obvious that there are some who have not the mental ability to see past the last game that they have watched. Developing a brain maybe beyond them I am afraid so we must expect more of this sort of thing. Unless we win the next match against a very very good side like Derby on Sat when they will be looking at the play offs!!
Please get real. Avoiding the drop this year is a good season. Half way is a great season. Above half way is a fantastic season. We are a good 1st division side punching above our weight but moving steadily forward. Stay focused and give the team and CP total support.
I am drunk (standard), but have a think... Unless you a top 4 side, you will have runs of good and bad games. The good won't mean you are going up, the bad won't mean every game's a 6 pointer. We are a midtable side, especially given the money we've had (eg. just one fee paid in summer). Even if we go down we've over achieved (not that that will happen)
I agree. It worked when we sacked Powell when he gave us our worst ever finish and then we smashed records the next season... Oh wait.
Powell needs to get his own championship team together, he didn't really get the chance to do that before. I also think sacking him will doom us to many more years of league one and championship football.
To be fair he has had all summer to get a championship team .
Did he? Reported cash flow problems and only one paid transfer in begs to differ
Firstly don't think Scp should go, but he has to be accountable. The team plays terrible football and after today I'm not sure all the players are as committed as they should be or were. I would give him 2 more league games, then if we lose both, take action. I support the club not one man and don't buy into all this sentimental stuff. Is Paul Hart still at the club.
Did anybody here not get a sinking feeling as the first game of the season drew nearer and the only player of quality we brought in was Fuller, who is great but definitely in the "past his best" category? Then we tried to look on the bright side, cos we'd just won league one, and we were trying to be positive, kicking off the ball and chain of the last few years. A bit tough on CP to blame him or expect him to make a silk purse with the sows ear he's been given. If anybody thinks Poyet would turn this team into something else, I think you are reacting to the disappointment and frustration, like the rest of us. But it ain't the management it's the material they've got to work with. And even most of the players would be up to the job if we didn't have eight players and three passengers every game, but that's what we've got. I wouldn't be at all suprised to see CP ousted in Jan, just like Parkinson was.
Need a change of manager, just don't think Powell has what it takes to be a championship manager, we have been lucky this season apart from a few away games, fed up the football is shit.
I think people are perfectly entitled to suggest that it may be time for a managerial change. Lets be honest, everyone mentions that we are a league one side blah, blah, yet we have achieved some good results this season. So does his mean we have the players, or not? Or were we punching above our weight in those games? Introduction of loan signings to our teams (over the years) have usually made us more unsettled. Maybe its time to clear out and stick with what we have.
The fact is that apart from the home matches against Leicester and Cardiff, games at the Valley this season have been dire. We haven't won a home game on a Saturday this season. We have now lost the last three league matches, and all of them to teams who were below us in the league table.
The teams that were below us in the league are now all starting to win. If things don't start to improve we are going to find ourself in the relegation places.
Powell picks the teams, and the team plays to his tactics. Therefore like it or not the buck rests with the manager.
If things don't improve quickly this trickle of Powell out feeling will grow, and I am not sure that he board have the same warm feeling to Chris Powell that the fans have..
Spot On !!!
No fans like losing, but most will accept it if the see a team trying and a team playing to a system. At the moment I see neither.
No fans like losing, but most will accept it if the see a team trying and a team playing to a system. At the moment I see neither. Perhaps the opening thread is over dramatic but I too don't see a system, call me what you like fellas but my god the football is poor.
It's bad enough walking away from a game like today without then seeing a post/some comments like this. A very poor game. Stephens was appalling for the 2nd goal, Seaborne just wasn't at the races at all, Danny Green just didn't grab his chance.
Now think for a second.
Stephens is our only playmaker and, despite some of the comments/player marks on this site this season, he remains that. This was a bad day at the office. Seaborne has been one of the best loan signings we have had...again, a bad day at the office. Green disappoints me most of these three today. I think he has the talent, but we just haven't seen it today.
It took us three years to get out of League 1, with Chris learning in the first (1/2) season and then making his changes in the summer. We don't seem to have had the pot to make the necessary changes this summer, but I have no issue with "learning this division" this season and then seeing what we can do in the summer. I am very comfortable with surviving this year and building gradually. Doing a "Norwich" or "Southampton" would be great, but I want the chance for us to grow gradually again and evolve as we can afford.
Did we sack Curbishley when we down from the Prem? Do we not yet get that chop-changing managers is not what works (Reed, Dowie, Pardew, Parkinson). The time for WUMs/Trolls/whatevers to have Powell's head was at the close of the season before last.
I'm not blind to his faults, he needs to have a settled team soon and he needs to be able to change a game with his substitutions. Most of that responsibility is with the players, but the manager can, and should, have the ability to make a difference with how he uses the players at his disposal. For the time being though, he is our manager and has my full support.
Wasnt there today as im ill but we need to get behind powell and the team(which it sounds like we did second half) hopefully players in and out in transfer window
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The teams that were below us in the league are now all starting to win. If things don't start to improve we are going to find ourself in the relegation places.
Powell picks the teams, and the team plays to his tactics. Therefore like it or not the buck rests with the manager.
If things don't improve quickly this trickle of Powell out feeling will grow, and I am not sure that he board have the same warm feeling to Chris Powell that the fans have..
Powell needs to get his own championship team together, he didn't really get the chance to do that before. I also think sacking him will doom us to many more years of league one and championship football.
Anyone seriously wanting to sack Chris Powell at this juncture has less brain cells than a plant.
We do not want to be wasting any money we have on the manager merry go round. We have been unlucky with injuries this year, but our back five are excelent and we have enough up front. On the right we need better cover that Green for Wilson and urgently need a decent left winger (Wordsworth?). Remember, we are still ahead of Slaters original plan.
It is obvious that there are some who have not the mental ability to see past the last game that they have watched. Developing a brain maybe beyond them I am afraid so we must expect more of this sort of thing. Unless we win the next match against a very very good side like Derby on Sat when they will be looking at the play offs!!
Please get real. Avoiding the drop this year is a good season. Half way is a great season. Above half way is a fantastic season. We are a good 1st division side punching above our weight but moving steadily forward. Stay focused and give the team and CP total support.
So does his mean we have the players, or not?
Or were we punching above our weight in those games?
Introduction of loan signings to our teams (over the years) have usually made us more unsettled. Maybe its time to clear out and stick with what we have.
Spot On !!!
No fans like losing, but most will accept it if the see a team trying and a team playing to a system. At the moment I see neither.
Spot On !!!
No fans like losing, but most will accept it if the see a team trying and a team playing to a system. At the moment I see neither.
Perhaps the opening thread is over dramatic but I too don't see a system, call me what you like fellas but my god the football is poor.
Now think for a second.
Stephens is our only playmaker and, despite some of the comments/player marks on this site this season, he remains that. This was a bad day at the office. Seaborne has been one of the best loan signings we have had...again, a bad day at the office. Green disappoints me most of these three today. I think he has the talent, but we just haven't seen it today.
It took us three years to get out of League 1, with Chris learning in the first (1/2) season and then making his changes in the summer. We don't seem to have had the pot to make the necessary changes this summer, but I have no issue with "learning this division" this season and then seeing what we can do in the summer. I am very comfortable with surviving this year and building gradually. Doing a "Norwich" or "Southampton" would be great, but I want the chance for us to grow gradually again and evolve as we can afford.
Did we sack Curbishley when we down from the Prem? Do we not yet get that chop-changing managers is not what works (Reed, Dowie, Pardew, Parkinson). The time for WUMs/Trolls/whatevers to have Powell's head was at the close of the season before last.
I'm not blind to his faults, he needs to have a settled team soon and he needs to be able to change a game with his substitutions. Most of that responsibility is with the players, but the manager can, and should, have the ability to make a difference with how he uses the players at his disposal. For the time being though, he is our manager and has my full support.