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  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,445
    Where do they find these refs. Lovren is allowed to jump.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,921
    Disgusting decision for the penalty and also means lovren on a yellow
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    Laddick01 said:
    When the ref gets sent to the monitor they’re basically being told they have made a mistake.

    I think that influences the refs decision there because that is never a pen.
    Nah probably due to the break in play the ref asked if there was an elbow or clash of heads. 

    VAR man says elbow and ref goes to check and makes the wrong decision. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,903
    SELR_addicks said:
    The ref made the decision before you all bleat on about VAR. 
    Your constant blinkered defence of VAR is truly laughable. 

    Theres absolutely no defending that decision.
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    The ref had a perfectly good view of that in real time. He should have looked at the replay and stuck by his original decision. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The ref made the decision before you all bleat on about VAR. 
    Your constant blinkered defence of VAR is truly laughable. 

    Theres absolutely no defending that decision.
    Ref made the wrong decision. HE watched the replay. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,903
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The ref made the decision before you all bleat on about VAR. 
    Your constant blinkered defence of VAR is truly laughable. 

    Theres absolutely no defending that decision.
    Ref made the wrong decision. HE watched the replay. 
    Only after the VAR got involved.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,715
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The ref made the decision before you all bleat on about VAR. 
    Your constant blinkered defence of VAR is truly laughable. 

    Theres absolutely no defending that decision.
    Ref made the wrong decision. HE watched the replay. 
    Only after the VAR got involved.
    Exactly 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,492
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The ref made the decision before you all bleat on about VAR. 
    Your constant blinkered defence of VAR is truly laughable. 

    Theres absolutely no defending that decision.
    Ref made the wrong decision. HE watched the replay. 
    Only after the VAR got involved.
    I guarantee if the break in play doesn't happen that isn't given. 

    Ref probably heard it was the elbow that caused the injury and then made his mind up from there. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    Surely England fans want the Czech's to win? Or do we want to win the group and play at Wembley against one of the big boys ?

    Harsh Penalty but admire Schick taking a fine penalty with his busted nose and double vision  :#

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,955
    edited June 2021
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The ref made the decision before you all bleat on about VAR. 
    Your constant blinkered defence of VAR is truly laughable. 

    Theres absolutely no defending that decision.
    Ref made the wrong decision. HE watched the replay. 
    Only after the VAR got involved.
    But it's still an official at VAR headquarters who thought it was penalty, and then the on field official who awarded it
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,715
    If Var doesn't exist then there's no penalty 
    Var does exist and a penalty is given. 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,888
    killerandflash said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The ref made the decision before you all bleat on about VAR. 
    Your constant blinkered defence of VAR is truly laughable. 

    Theres absolutely no defending that decision.
    Ref made the wrong decision. HE watched the replay. 
    Only after the VAR got involved.
    But it's still an official at VAT headquarters who thought it was penalty, and then the on field official who awarded it
    Bloody taxman has to poke his nose in 😁.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,903
    I'd have a lot more respect for the pro-VAR cult if they would just occasionally admit it resulted in a pile of sweaty old bollocks.
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Poor keeping that
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,556
    Silly VAR decision but class from perisic. Better for country than club?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,955
    RedChaser said:
    killerandflash said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    Off_it said:
    SELR_addicks said:
    The ref made the decision before you all bleat on about VAR. 
    Your constant blinkered defence of VAR is truly laughable. 

    Theres absolutely no defending that decision.
    Ref made the wrong decision. HE watched the replay. 
    Only after the VAR got involved.
    But it's still an official at VAT headquarters who thought it was penalty, and then the on field official who awarded it
    Bloody taxman has to poke his nose in 😁.
    There's 1 decision for you, 19 decisions for me, Taxman!
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    I think the lack of ambition from Croatia suggests that they think they will stuff Scotland. 
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,584
    Can't remember the last time I've seen a game end before the allocated injury time is over
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,827
    Referee in Scotland has had a complete mare today. That dodgy VAR review and then blowing for full time 20 seconds early. Weird.

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  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,818
    moutuakilla said:
    Can't remember the last time I've seen a game end before the allocated injury time is over
    I thought the same. Isn’t the number of minutes supposed to be a minimum?
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    LawrieAbrahams said:
    I think the lack of ambition from Croatia suggests that they think they will stuff Scotland. 
    They looked a little urgent for a while after half time but then yeh it slowed down.
    As you say they think they can beat Scotland but its a dangerous tactic.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,955
    orpingtonRED said:
    LawrieAbrahams said:
    I think the lack of ambition from Croatia suggests that they think they will stuff Scotland. 
    They looked a little urgent for a while after half time but then yeh it slowed down.
    As you say they think they can beat Scotland but its a dangerous tactic.
    Both sides were happy for as point. The Czechs have 4 points, the Croats expect to beat Scotland which would also give them 4 points

    Risky though, even assuming Scotland get nothing today, if the Croats only draw with Scotland, then they'll finish with 2 points which surely won't be enough for them to progress
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,841
    Callumcafc said:
    Referee in Scotland has had a complete mare today. That dodgy VAR review and then blowing for full time 20 seconds early. Weird.
    Barca fan. He can't stand Modric. 
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    Three crap games today. 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,903
    The games so far have been generally rubbish. 
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,597
    Off_it said:
    The games so far have been generally rubbish. 
    Agreed.
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    Off_it said:
    The games so far have been generally rubbish. 
    Not until today.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,955
    LawrieAbrahams said:
    Three crap games today. 
    Agreed, it's been a reasonable tournament so far, but today has seen a lot of defensive, negative football, with too many teams happy to take a draw or not capable of creating enough to threaten opponents
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,771
    edited June 2021
    After yesterday, we do have to consider what might happen if we get beaten by the Czech Republic. Will four points be enough if we lost and ended up third? We certainly can't finish below third. I suppose we need to look at this group by group. Group A has Turkey who can get three points max and Switzerland who can get four but has a minus 3 goal difference. That is a positive. In Group B, Denmark have 0 points and Finland have to play Belgium. I suspect third place will ultimately have three points there. In Group C, Austria and Ukraine have 3 points each but play each other. A win either way would mean third place would have 3 points. A draw would mean four points with a neutral goal difference which could be an issue for England due to goals scored.

    Group D will have Spain playing Slovakia and Poland. If Spain win those, third place can't better 3 points. If there is a shock in one of these two games, it could bring the Group into play for England. Group F could be interesting if Portugal beat Germany. It would mean the Germans could only get 3 points maximum which would be positive for England and put their continuation at risk. However, a draw between Portugal and Germany would potentially be bad news for England.  Weighing it all up, it looks like four points is highly likely to be enough which is a relief as I believe any result is possible against the Czechs, including a defeat. I would be surprised if Group A was an issue and if Finland got anything from Belgium so those two groups are our best bet.

    Thanks to the spreadsheet posted on here for that analysis. Definitely worth a download for those who haven't done so as it works out the third places for you and the next round of games.

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