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Haynes or BWP?

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  • cs1986 said:

    In this order:
    Fuller
    Haynes
    Hulse
    Kermo
    BWP

    BWP and Kermo have not shown me they are good enough for this level. We also hit too many long balls when Kermo plays.

    Agree with this 100 percent

    Kermo's main skill was winning things in the air last season but this season when he wasn't injured he rarely won a header. Having Fuller to compare Kermorgant to doesn't help his case either IMO although without doubt I do love kermo and hope he proves me wrong!

    On the bwp Haynes situation, Haynes showed more strength than bwp usually does, better movement, more pace and is bet my life that bwp wouldn't have scored the header that Haynes did, so I'm on the Haynes bandwagon. Bwp hasnt stepped up at all imo but Again I'd be happy for bwp to prove me wrong
  • BWP needs through balls and we dont have anyone to play those through to him (stephens vary rarely plays them and Pritchard can play them but rarely gets the opportunity). He is a great striker of the ball no doubt but cannot do much when his back is towards the goal and he usually loses it. Strikers at this level need to be more than a one trick pony and Haynes not only can turn and pass and keep the ball better but he also has a greater sense of purpose to his play and this with his speed offers more to the team. I think Haynes has it over Kermogant also.
  • these injuries may well be a blessing in disguise, other players have had to step up and adapt. Can only make the team stronger
  • I was pleasantly surprised that Haynes had a good first touch and was so strong on the ball Tuesday night considering he's been out for so long. He was such a menace to there defence, BWP was not on the same page as Haynes. It's gotta be Haynes for me.
  • Haynes is quite a good finisher with his head!
  • I really rate Haynes, has a lot of positives but aren't we going a bit overboard on one very good showing v Cardiff even ignoring his injury record.

    And why can we not rate Haynes AND BWP AND Kermo? it's not either/or. All, along with Hulse if he stays and Fuller can play a part.
  • I really rate Haynes, has a lot of positives but aren't we going a bit overboard on one very good showing v Cardiff even ignoring his injury record.

    And why can we not rate Haynes AND BWP AND Kermo? it's not either/or. All, along with Hulse if he stays and Fuller can play a part.

    Yeah I do rate them all, just IMO the list CS said is spot on when thinking about how effective each of the strikers have been over the course of the season
  • I really rate Haynes, has a lot of positives but aren't we going a bit overboard on one very good showing v Cardiff even ignoring his injury record.

    And why can we not rate Haynes AND BWP AND Kermo? it's not either/or. All, along with Hulse if he stays and Fuller can play a part.

    Yeah I do rate them all, just IMO the list CS said is spot on when thinking about how effective each of the strikers have been over the course of the season
    Over the course of the season how many games has Haynes started? One.

    With luck he'll have a decent run in the side and we can see what he can do but give him a few games.

    He is an ex-Bristol City player so look forward to him scoring against them.

  • I really rate Haynes, has a lot of positives but aren't we going a bit overboard on one very good showing v Cardiff even ignoring his injury record.

    And why can we not rate Haynes AND BWP AND Kermo? it's not either/or. All, along with Hulse if he stays and Fuller can play a part.

    Yeah I do rate them all, just IMO the list CS said is spot on when thinking about how effective each of the strikers have been over the course of the season
    Over the course of the season how many games has Haynes started? One.

    With luck he'll have a decent run in the side and we can see what he can do but give him a few games.

    He is an ex-Bristol City player so look forward to him scoring against them.

    Which says a lot, he's scored the same amount of goals as bwp when he's started a lot less than him
  • Haynes' pace is something none of the other strikers can match and is something we lack in the team as a whole.

    So from a team perspective I would say Haynes but, in reality, how long till his next injury?

    BWP gives his all but is possibly struggling a bit at the level. A goal might kickstart him though.
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  • I really rate Haynes, has a lot of positives but aren't we going a bit overboard on one very good showing v Cardiff even ignoring his injury record.

    And why can we not rate Haynes AND BWP AND Kermo? it's not either/or. All, along with Hulse if he stays and Fuller can play a part.

    Because all players, managers and coaches are class or pony, geniuses or clueless, proper footballers or headless chickens :-)
  • Scoham said:

    I really rate Haynes, has a lot of positives but aren't we going a bit overboard on one very good showing v Cardiff even ignoring his injury record.

    And why can we not rate Haynes AND BWP AND Kermo? it's not either/or. All, along with Hulse if he stays and Fuller can play a part.

    Because all players, managers and coaches are class or pony, geniuses or clueless, proper footballers or headless chickens :-)
    I wouldn't have put it quite so harshlt but yes, exactly : - )

    I really rate Haynes, has a lot of positives but aren't we going a bit overboard on one very good showing v Cardiff even ignoring his injury record.

    And why can we not rate Haynes AND BWP AND Kermo? it's not either/or. All, along with Hulse if he stays and Fuller can play a part.

    Yeah I do rate them all, just IMO the list CS said is spot on when thinking about how effective each of the strikers have been over the course of the season
    Over the course of the season how many games has Haynes started? One.

    With luck he'll have a decent run in the side and we can see what he can do but give him a few games.

    He is an ex-Bristol City player so look forward to him scoring against them.

    Which says a lot, he's scored the same amount of goals as bwp when he's started a lot less than him
    So why isn't Wagstaff with one goal from one game on the list.

    And why is Haynes above Kermo who's scored more goals?

    Why do we need to rush to compare players after such a short period?
  • If that was my decision Waggy would be in the match day 18 but hey ho.

    Also I just think Haynes all round game offers more than kermos, this season.

    We don't 'need' to compare but this is a football forum and things will be compared
  • Prefer Haynes and it's important to play as many players called Danny as possible. Main concern has to be his injury record.
  • I think Haynes is a catalyst for the team in that he can also bring out the best in others. BWP's game relies on others to bring out the best in him - a best we haven't seen in a year. There is no need to compare and i'm sure CP will know anyway but i think we should be in no doubt about how much of a difference there was having haynes up front tuesday rather than BWP. Hopefully BWP can recapture some form.
  • Kermorgant was winning aerial battles with ease this season too.
  • edited November 2012
    kimbo said:

    Haynes all day long. Hulse in for BWP and we have 4 good championship strikers. Like it or not, BWP isn't up to it.

    Agree

    Also agree. I said in the summer that BWP would not be good enough at this level and performances so far this season appear to prove that point. Whilst he scored some important goals last season he hardly set the world alight in League 1 with his haul of 22. Successful strikers in league 1 that generally make the step up to the Championship will bang in around 30 - 40 goals (Rhodes, Lambert as a few examples).

    Decent league 1 striker but not a Championship regular. Decent cover off the bench but not much else.

    I hoped he would prove me wrong and show that he had progressed since his previous poor seasons in the Championship but I don't think he has. Fuller, Haynes, Kermo and Hulse a step up from BWP.
  • Well on the new Football Manager which, we all know is the most accurate barometer of such things. ;)

    Haynes has scored 12 in 8 and BWP is toilet.

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